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Originally Posted by Callum_62
"We are going to be another Leeds Utd.... In other words we will BECOME ordinary."
Sorry to burst yer wee bubble pal but you're already way below ordinary. Tit.
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Originally Posted by Callum_62
"We are going to be another Leeds Utd.... In other words we will BECOME ordinary."
Sorry to burst yer wee bubble pal but you're already way below ordinary. Tit.
Having talks with Warburton: -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32972187
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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
He'll not have a clue what he's getting into. If there's not instant success he will be hounded out sharpish. Plus there's no money to spend.
He's also probably unaware that a PhD in the events of 1690 is an essential part of his CV if he wishes to be considered for the position. The ability to say "we're" instead of "our" & calling everyone taller than Frankie Dettori "big man" would also be helpful attributes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
They mean alan mcgregor i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
What other club, or indeed society or species would want that culture or "history"?Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
The history is in fact pretty one dimensional and not that exciting or honourable when compared with any number of clubs, but why worry about facts when they can barely string a sentence together never mind research anything!
that ninety nine percent of the planet are blissfully ignorant of.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
And end every sentence with "in that"Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
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Originally Posted by brog
It's not 'we're', it's 'wur'.
As in, 'wur back four wur excellent the day'.
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Only one or two regular starters in that list. Not unexpected either. The new manager has a job on his hands.
Some real dead weights in there, probably better to just weigh them rather than list them?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Boyd, Black, Elbows and Daly to the yams? Potter won't be able to resist.
Warburton did a fine job at Brentford but Rangers a whole new ball game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Also, he likes his teams to play football, but will surely take a big change in culture to make that happen there.
I'm surprised Ashley doesn't want him for Newcastle - maybe he's just biding his time before scuppering the deal? :wink:
Really? You think?Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
On the BBC site saying he wants to understand the "chemistry" at the rangers - I'd be more concerned about the bigotry.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
He's a decent guy and manager by all accounts - wonder if he has got a moral compass / principles? Plenty other clubs around.
Edit - maybe he meant chemicals?:greengrin
Let's hope it takes them quite a while to make their minds up and ensure their re-building process is slow. If we can get out the blocks like Hearts did last year and stay consistent, we might just be out of sight before they are organised.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
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Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
This.
Anybody read what the bigots are saying about us getting Danny Carmichael
They seemed to think they were signing him
Given they are not even sure who their manager will be I think it's a given that they will take a while to get geared up for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by hfc rd
Aye, read thatQuote:
Originally Posted by AlbertK86
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...owtopic=283879
I'm consoling myself (for now) that we're setting ourselves up to employ a forward thinking manager who'll be adequately supported in his player acquisition strategy and it means that players that are of interest to Hibs etc. are off our radar for a very good reason.
The very good reason being that we're interested in FOOTBALL-PLAYERS - I.E. Guys who can play the game and NOT the flute ??
Despite Sunday's result, it seems 'Humility', 'Realism' and 'Intelligence' are just 3 of the character-traits that your everyday-Hun still avoids like the plague.
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
It's a well known FACT in Hunnish circles that the failure to go on to conquer Europe after winning the Cup Winners Cup was due to the plans to relax the rules about signing RCs-it only took another 12 years.
I would take SmithQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Said to my yam pal tonight potter would sign him. He didn't say anything.... Think they have accepted potter will sign the usual suspects like he does everywhere he goes.
Exactly the type of player potter likes. Probably play him on the wing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey09
Apart from their short statement about Moshni there has been complete silence from Ibrox this week. I would have thought there might have been some reassuring words for their fans that they have a plan to turn things around. Have they got season tickets on sale yet?
Someone posted in here a furious rant from a Follower about this exact subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Where is Dave King in all this? He seemingly wasn't at Fir Park.
Tom English wrote a great BBC blog on King's various, er, contradictions so far.
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Originally Posted by jacomoseven
King has to be careful about how many days he stays in the UK, to avoid being liable to UK Taxes.
As for his various investment promises......................
Well, quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Shame there is no way of watching Rangers games in SA (he actually said this!!) and no technology exists for him to get a message to the supporters from his SA lair...
Perhaps he's sent a letter outlining his plans which a flunky can read out on the steps of Ibrox? Hopefully sent via airmail, as the faithful might be getting restless.
Is that you Gibbs?Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
Given how short of cash they are it seems strange they have not started selling season tickets. I'm wondering if the are contemplating admin. If the rumours about the money that gets taken out of Ibrox every month by Ashley, Green etc are true it may be the only choice available to the new regime. By not collecting the season ticket money first they could be trying to retain some goodwill with the fans?
Just guessing but the silence this week is baffling.
They seek him here
They seek him there
They seek that Dave King everywhere
Is he in Heaven
Or is he in Hell..........
.....or maybe he's finally in a Jail Cell.
With apologies to Emma Orczy.
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I thought they were holding off so they could price the season tickets at premiership prices once promotion had been confirmed.
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Rangers board to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...mand-1-3792217
How is that even possible?
Fingers in the ears, shut the eyes, and shout "la la la la la la la la" until the big bad boy goes away?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
totally, its got me confused too, surely if he loaned them money and has asked for it back they can't just say "up yours, your not getting it" maybe they don't have the money to pay back? (which is more than likely), i thought dave king was supposed to be their "knight in shining armour" more like the conman wrapped in the tin foil found in a junkie's govan garden!Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Unless there was a clause that MASH lent (or made available) the money for a long term and is now just saying 'can I have it back now', so TRFC can say 'not yet'.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigHibee
:confused:Maybe they are going to treat him like the tax man and all those other unfortunate creditors that their predecessors the now defunct Glasgow rangers ignored because they thought they were something above the law?Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Their problem this time will be that the net will close much quicker - at the end of the day this was a commercial loan - business to business and there is no way the new boys will be able to argue they are not bound by the loan so long as its terms are not actually illegal.
If they exist they owe the money - they took it quick enough, same with the players that they never thought twice about playing when they were fit.
If King has all the assets the media have hyped for him then its a drop in the ocean - he wanted the club, he got it via popular support on the back of expectation of money being thrown at it and problems solved. It's time to show der hun the money or the natives might just get a bit restless.
Aren't they in breach of the term of the loan though by not letting Mash have two directors?Quote:
Originally Posted by Newry Hibs
Maybe just maybe we are going to get our close season football fix via these two heavyweights and the media.
Not sure how this will pan out but saying your no getting yet 5 mill and we want to renegotiate our contract reference merchandise instead is going to really be top of Ashley's agenda to get addressed
One thing I do know the longer this goes on the more disorganised the newest club in Scotland will be starting the season.
GGTTH
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I think that only applied if they took the second 5 mill.
It's what real businesses do. :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by jonty
It'll end in legal action.
Ask hertzQuote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Difference to 2012 is they are dealing with a guy who really doesn't care, has massive amounts of cash to fight them, holds valuable security over their assets and won't be intimidated by their usual fan threats.Quote:
Originally Posted by southern hibby
I've just prepared a letter to the bank, based on the The Rangers official statement.
"The [members of my family] do not consider that, at this time, the repayment of [the mortgage] to [the bank] is the best use of the [household]'s resources."
....
"The [members] accordingly recommend voting Against [ever paying it back]."
Feel free to try it out for yourselves, but I refuse to accept any responsibility for the consequences :wink:
Its not really the same though is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.
I think you would probably be looking at your agreement and saying no if you could as well.
...followed by Administration?:clapper:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Maybe MASH want their cash back because they've removed MASH's reps from the board, which I believe was part of the loan agreement? Might be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
[QUOTE=Andy74;4391804]Its not really the same though is it?
Its more like the bank writing to you and asking for you, despite your mortgage agreement, to pay them back all the money they loaned you immediately.
which is what happens to thousands of people each year, usually resulting in repossession! :wink:
Fair point. Ashley is a hard nosed businessman and no fool. He will know exactly what he is doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
Unless you know the actual terms of the loan and what constitutes a "default" then we don't know if the demand is valid or not.
If the demand is valid and the monies remain outstanding then Ashley will be able to enforce his (MASH) security.
Interesting stuff.
[QUOTE=brog;4391826]It is generally as a result of a default though which doesn't seem to be the case here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
As others have noted, the agreement will provide for whether the loan can be terminated at the request of the provider or not. If he is asking for a general meeting instead of just using the terms of the agreement I suspect not.
Just like when he urged fans to boycott season tickets (or pay the money into a separate fund instead), King seems to be encouraging fans to shun the merch in an effort to force Ashley to renegotiate the contracts.Quote:
Originally Posted by southern hibby
High stakes.
With all these references to MASH, the words of the theme song from the TV programme, MASH, are very appropriate and prophetic. -
Through early morning fog I see
visions of the things to be
the pains that are withheld for me
I realize and I can see...
[REFRAIN]:
that suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
I try to find a way to make
all our little joys relate
without that ever-present hate
but now I know that it's too late, and...
[REFRAIN]
The game of life is hard to play
I'm gonna lose it anyway
The losing card I'll someday lay
so this is all I have to say.
[REFRAIN]
The only way to win is cheat
And lay it down before I'm beat
and to another give my seat
for that's the only painless feat.
[REFRAIN]
The sword of time will pierce our skins
It doesn't hurt when it begins
But as it works its way on in
The pain grows stronger...watch it grin, but...
[REFRAIN]
A brave man once requested me
to answer questions that are key
is it to be or not to be
and I replied 'oh why ask me?'
[REFRAIN]
'Cause suicide is painless
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.
...and you can do the same thing if you please.
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Originally Posted by Andy74
I bet you're a great laugh at Parties.
[QUOTE=Andy74;4391841]My understanding is that MA believes the Clumpany has breached the terms of the Loan, materially and allowing the Company de-list is one aspect of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
I know for a fact that MA has got some expert legal representation here in Scotland, and would offer that he and they know precisely what they're doing; he's lent them money to keep them alive and King thinks he can stick two fingers up at him...
I very much doubt that Mike Ashley will be out manoeuvred here. It is hard to judge what he is exactly up too most of the time but I doubt he will be beat by King.
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Originally Posted by keekaboo
[QUOTE=Cropley10;4391866]You would think if he felt there had been a default he could comfortably use the agreement itself to withdraw the facility or request repayment and go down the legal route if it is not paid as requested. I don't get why he has to go down the GM route in that circumstance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
http://www.sfm.scot/sfm-the-next-ste...-25/?cid=56311
Seems a a reasonable assessment and if nothing else suggests that King is a very wealthy individual [suggests a net worth of £26M], but not on the scale that TRFC need. Others with better financial knowledge may be able to comment.
I realise that the author may not be absolutely impartial :tin hat:
Interesting article. The guy seems to have done a fair bit of homework.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I'm not going to get all forensic on his own forensics, but if £26m is what he has available in cash, there's no way he is going to, or should, invest much more than a drop of that in TRFC.
Goldman Sachs are on the Ashley payroll-don't think he'll miss many tricks.As an example Rangers were shouting about how they were going to reveal the retail offshoot arrangements-they've been warned off.
This strategy (joke) of choosing what debts to pay, and which not, worked out well for the oldco the last time. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
When they didn't have a pot to p*** in they go crawling for cash to keep the lights on, but now when the terms don't seem so good anymore they welch on the deal.
Same old newco, just like oldco.
Barcabhoy :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Pure guess work as to how much money King has got, but if remotely accurate he won't be able to sink £30m in as he once claimed he would do.
Sunday. The second sentence appears incomplete.
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Originally Posted by Sunday Mail
Another hatchet job on King?
https://rangerssupportersloyal.wordp.../#comment-1381
Smashing read !!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Looks like there may be some fun to be had in the weeks ahead !!
Interesting if true, which I wouldn't doubt by King's absence :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
What's the 'vigorous legal action after June 12th'? Apologies if I've missed something obvious...Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertK86
Presumably from Mike Ashley once he's formally told after the GM on 12 June that he's not getting his loan repaid?Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
Ahh..Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
:aok:
That was a pleasant few minutes reading. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Is it not just the ramblings of a pissed off hun rather than anything that's actually likely to happen though?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Sounded a it more educated than yer average sevconian.... But that ain't hard mind !!Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Sadly, 'The Scotsman' these days is nothing more than an East Coast version of the 'Daily R*tard' - the headline shoud say 'Rangers board WOULD LIKE/PREFER to ignore Mike Ashley loan demand' but it can't, it can only ASK it's shareholders. Ok, it's highly unlikely they would agree to it as they haven't tippled that King as just the latest crook (albeit a proven one) to be in charge and so is currently more popular than MA but the headline is just another 'WE'RE RANGERS - WE DECIDE' ego-massage for the moron-loyal.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
The ramblings of a pissed off hun not impressed with the happy clappy persona the vast majority of the illiterate hordes have lined up behind. As Albert says, he seems more 'educated' shall we say, than the average zombie...he even manages to do the whole post without mentioning caffliks or using gutter language. I love it when there's only a handful in a crowd who can smell the smell the ****, but can't stop the headlong rush to dive in.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
:lolrangers:
'In the mist of all this'Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Haven't a foggy (I know - :embarrass) what he/she/it means, presumably 'MIDST' was the aim ?
Love it when the Hun gets use of a PC and has to communicate with words rather than grunts - they must think it somehow disguises the damage/affliction caused by generations of in-breeding !!.
It could just have been a typo ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Totally unrelated to the financial shenanigans, but a couple of weeks back the Blue Order rolled out one of their cringe worthy 'wordy' banners. One that blabbed on about "no true Ranger ever failed in the traditions etc etc blah blah blah"Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
When I asked my resident hun colleague about that Motherwell effort that looped over Cummy Welt's heid, he reckoned that Cummy was 'worried about the post behind him'...oh how I scoffed about these True Rangers'. The Iron Curtain must be spinning in their graves.
Derek Mcinnes apparently has just been confirmed as manager. The man's insane if true.
EZ
No chance. Where are you hearing that?Quote:
Originally Posted by eezyrider
Fill your pockets - he can be backed at 7/1 with Will Hills.Quote:
Originally Posted by eezyrider
It looks like Warburton is a shoo-in for the gig.
Have you read the whole Facebook thread thing? Dinnae be daft.Quote:
Originally Posted by eezyrider
The Rangers will win playoffs -Advocaat resignsQuote:
Originally Posted by eezyrider
The Rangers don't win playoffs - Advocaat re signs
Hmmm only for a year though . What price is he ?
Advocaat with no budget? Not going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
They'll have money if they go upQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I agree. - that's what meant with my first commentQuote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
That the post on Gramo's Facebook? I almost fell for it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by eezyrider
Live press conference from King
http://news.stv.tv/west-central/1322...-clubs-future/
So, The Rangers budget is based on ST Sales and a loan from Sports Direct.
Where's the big investment?
"However, he said the club's budget would be dependent on season ticket uptake and the Sports Direct loan."
Herald
That looks more like an interview under caution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leithenhibby
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Originally Posted by Geo_1875
King: "My Solicitor, Mr Murray, will be answering questions on my behalf"
Murray: "No comment"
So no money from the "multi millionaire" then. Nae wonder they dislike Ashley, he actually puts his money where his mouth is. Long may king reign over this basket case of a club!Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Nothing for us to fear from that press conference. Can't see them shifting many season tickets on that performance.
Eh? So they arent paying Ashley back and want him out but the budget is based on him loaning them money?
That was exactly what I was thinking when I read the brief STV report on today's press conference. Hopefully that is King's plan :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
I am confused! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Franck
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Originally Posted by Haymaker
Don't worry, so are The Rangers