Anyone think that the Spitting Images sketches played a part in his exit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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https://youtu.be/SCyIB35_sc4
Anyone think that the Spitting Images sketches played a part in his exit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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https://youtu.be/SCyIB35_sc4
Yep, one way or another he was sacked by a puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
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Another superb piece from Marina Hyde.
“Maybe you get the costumed vigilantes you deserve. Gotham had Batman. We got the giblets of the Mirror’s chicken suit.” :greengrin
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.t...-castle-brexit
It does seem very staged. No need for him to exit the building so theatrically - nor indeed be seen returning home brandishing a bottle of champagne. A very public attempt to prove that he's gone but I suspect in private he'll be pulling a lot of strings for some time to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by EskbankHibby
Why does he come and go through the front door?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I see an EU deal coming in the next few weeks now due to Biden and also the utter incompetence surrounding no deal preparations which would be an utter disaster.
The Government will have to capitulate to the EU.
Anyway, Biden, Vote Leave Kompromati out of the government, Scotland qualifying. Got to be the best week 2020 has been able to serve up so far.
I recommend the FT coverage on Cummings BTW. Also addresses Johnson’s problem with Scotland (we think he’s an English nationalist ****) and that he wants to “save the union”. I think of few people who would be less suited to that task. Maybe he could ask his mates Gove and Farridge to help - we LOVE then, too.
This appears to be a misconception. Cummings has not gone, he is 'working his notice from home'Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
He'll probably set up some right wing "think tank" with dark money, ably supported, when he needs some air time, by the BBC politicos.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Stings to be pulled for some time yet.
Let's hope so! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
Why would anyone want him to stay working? The damage he could do from inside!Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
He’ll get his 3 months in lieu and he’ll be away - hence the champagne. Big payout and long holiday!
He might still be getting paid by Putin, anyway.
I was just about to say he's doing home office. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
He's got so much dirt on Johnson, Gove and co that he has a job for life if he wants it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Not sure if this has been discussed. One name that keeps popping up is Carrie Symons, and her part in CummingsGate.
Does she have an official role, or is she exercising her rights as the First Lady?
His office isn't even at 10 Downing St.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
That box was full of stuff he'd raided from the gift shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
This from the BBC websiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Colr
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Mr Cummings and director of communications Lee Cain, who resigned on Thursday, will work out their notices at home following tensions within No 10.
She was never first lady, by all accounts she is well down the line. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
She seems to be coming across as a conniving, scheming bit of **** in a nest of vipers. Why else would anyone of her age get up the nelly duff with an aged gut-bucket like de Pfeffel, I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
No way will that happen. Its ‘gardening leave’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Am I missing something, though? She doesn't have an official role, other than as something out of the Borgias?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
Why would she need an official role when she's got the Nae Nookie Unless weapon?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I think you’re right. It’s something out of the Borgias!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
She is a former head of communications for the Conservative party who is the PMs fiancé. She will no doubt have good connections in the media and likely could find out what Cummings was briefing to the press.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Like in many things, people will concentrate on her gender and relationship with the PM. Not irrelevant but misses her skills and experience in the wider media and comma world
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Her skills as a Russian compromised Tory *******?Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Could be. Not a supporter of the WM government but get bored with someone like Cummings being thought of as a Machiavellian mastermind but the person who seems to have been a driving force behind pushing him out is just the PMs squeeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
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Bald headed scarey guy raised suspicions. Try a wee chick. Folks always under-estimate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
Princess Nut Nuts 😀😀
Bozo could continue the tradition of appointing/enriching non elected chums and perhaps give a nice little earner to a soon to be unemployed former US president?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
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Cheers. Didn't know about her background. Still not convinced that she should have a say, but I suppose it's reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I’m absolutely convinced that this is the Tories purpose in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Hancock to appear on GMB tomorrow. First time the govt have put someone forward in 201 days.
Make of that what you will.
Anybody know, and I'm asking the tories out there, why there is no deputy prime minister?
It's not a position always in use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Gordon Brown didn't have a deputy nor did Major for several years.
Likewise there was no Deputy PM throughout most of the 60s, all of the 70s and all but one years of the 80s and there was never a Deputy PM at all until 1942.
(I'm not a Tory BTW!!)
Thanks for the history lesson 😁 even though you must be a closet tory 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Reading a novel that mentions a deputy PM. Clegg was the last one.
Clegg's move to joining the Davecam version of the nasty party was a career development move as we now know, nothing do do with liberalism and all about the opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Come to think about it,an excellent prospect for deputy to Bozo if they could afford him[emoji16]
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I thought it was more of a gamble to secure the AV referendum than anything more malign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Whatever he was playing at, it didn’t work out and backfired on him / them big time.
Regarded him as a career climber rather than a leader of the traditional liberal party or indeed a conviction politician and it looks like it's worked out that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
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I take back any acknowledgment that despite despising Cummings he knew what he was doing.
Two so called masters of the black arts in Cain and Cummings and the best name they could conjure up for Carrie Symonds was Princess Nut Nuts. Disappointing, no wonder they were sacked. :greengrin
I repeat what I've said before. He's a twat who got very lucky with his timing of wider politics which helped gift him the Brexit win and then the Johnson win. Three dimensional chess player my arse. The Barnard Castle episode alone shows he's got very poor judgement and a gigantic sense of entitlement.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Cameron made him with that spectacularly stupid referendum on Brexit giving vent to the 'there must be a better and consequence free future out there ' mob and then Corbyn put him in Downing Street by making that utter buffoon Johnson seem the saner choice.
Among many reasons to be grateful for the Biden win will be the resumption of proper US agency investigations into the labyrinthine connections between domestic politics in the US and UK and a variety of foreign actors and their dodgy money. Tick tock for the Brexiteers.
Margaret Thatcher appointed Geoffrey Howe as deputy PM as a form of humiliation after he fell out with her over Europe. He'd previously been one of her most loyal and high profile allies at both the Treasury and the Foreign Office but her press secretary Bernard Ingham described the deputy PM post as essentially 'meaningless'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Nevertheless Howe's subsequent resignation speech set in motion the train of events which led to her downfall.
Can you imagine any of the current flock of spineless grifters giving such a speech?Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
I've been looking at the background of a number of those currently in power at Westminster and it's amazing just how many of them have been involved in Journalism.
It reminded me of a scene from Father Ted.
-- "That used to be quite common, you know? The favourite son would become a doctor, and the idiot brother would be sent off to the priesthood."
--- "Your brother is a doctor, isn't he?"
-- "Yes"
Presumably Journalism is the British Upper Classes' version of the Priesthood, for the idiot sibling.
Not a Tory but the U.K. government has had a position of First Secretary of State since the early 1960s. It isn’t a constitutional position, if nothing else because the UK does not have a codified constituion. Nevertheless it is seen as essentially DPM, though in some cases the appointee has been less a DPM and more a ‘fixer’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
The post hasn’t always been occupied and it is usual for the postholder to combine it with another portfolio. Rab Butler was the first I believe, I think under Macmillan.
Apparently Johnson is "proud" of the way his Government has wasted taxpayer cash and diverted it to friends of MPs. Shameless.
Listen, it's a very efficient system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
You avoid all the hassle of tendering for the best price and supporting UK manufacturers by going straight to an American jeweller who will then recruit a Spanish middleman to buy whatever you want from China.
You can also use Emergency Powers to avoid parliamentary scrutiny and just award contracts directly to people who just happen to be known connections of the likes of Cummings, Gove et al. It's all something to be "proud" of.
Putting two fingers up to transparency and doing what you like because you can has been engrained in this goverments culture since Cummings went cruising around the North East.
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https://news.sky.com/story/pm-to-ann...d-war-12135956
Well that's the next set of contracts to Tory friends and family sorted.
Beyond a joke that this sorting of funding takes precedence amidst a global pandemic and the financial crisis about to hit the UK post Covid/Brexit.
Appealing to their core voter base once again.
Johnson backs Patel on bullying. Govt adviser on ministerial code then resigns.
I believe it's anti bullying week too.
Bozo backs Patel whilst the person who lead the enquiry and concluded that she had indeed breached the ministerial code and was a bully in the workplace has resigned.
Guess she must have been doing the right sort of bullying as far as the PM and the nasty party are concerned.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55016076Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
More on the news.
Ms Patel released a statement saying she was sorry "that my behaviour in the past has upset people".Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
they kind of "apologies" really grinds my gears
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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
You've got to wonder what the threshold is for conduct that gets the offender sacked or forced to resign.
Patel epitomises what it is to be sleekit so there's no question of her ever doing the right thing.
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Yet another instance where we find that the Westminster "system" of precedent, unwritten rules, relying on "honour" totally falls apart when run by a bunch of chancers who don't gaf. :rolleyes:
We should probably change the thread title to remove the word lying and just leave it at Tories are *******s?!
This is just another incident that would have been an automatic resignation in days gone by. The standards of behaviour expected of public officials have slipped because the public have allowed them to, shysters will always take advantage of apathy. The half baked apology that wasn't an apology ('I'm not sorry for my behaviour but I'm sorry someone was upset by it' is essentially victim blaming) sums up the contempt this government have for the people they are meant to serve.
She didn't bully anyone, she just "mis-instructed" them.
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They ****ing disgust me, repulse me and offend me on a level I've never experienced before.
They offend me marginally less than the electorate who continue to condone and accept their behaviour.
It's really just an extension of their shamelessly do what they like mentality, born out of the Emergency Powers they conferred on themselves to deal with Covid, which have comfortably stretched to avoid scrutiny of contracts and behaviours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
They take their lead on behaviour from the top.
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What was the point in the investigation if they were just ignoring it anyway?
We have a prime minister who is essentially giving the green light to bullying - so long as you make a half arsed apology.
I feel for the many thousands who suffer bullying be that at work, school or home. You are expected to suck.kt and suffer more.
Johnson, Patel and the arse licking hangers on who will defend this are a ****ing disgrace.
and today they leak they're going to freeze public sector pay again.
the same public sector that worked through the virus, were at risk every day from it, continued to pay tax and didn't miss time off.
they're ****.
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In their defence (gies me the boak defending them!) there has to be savings somewhere. I've also worked throughout the virus, paid tax and not had time off, and I'm getting nae pay rise this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
It's ****, but it's not unexpected.
The investigation fell apart as it was an investigation into bullying, not bullyin'Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
https://twitter.com/mjdorsman/status...74646535680002
I remember having a heated debate about clapping the NHS and how much they appreciated it. I wonder if they're still feeling appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just_Jimmy
Maybe it's time the UK had a constitution.
:rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
If there was a written constitution the government wouldn't be able to do half the stuff they get away with. (even more than the do now)
They've managed to find £16b for defence. Why can't they fund the NHS so readily? And I suspect you probably work for a private company who weren't asking folk to clap at their doors every Thursday for you. You could probably move job if not happy, where does a nurse go, or a Dr, surgeon, anaesthetist etc. All specialist riles only really found in the NHS. I haven't had a wage rise either and don't expect o e next year now, no bonus as well. But I would still support a wage increase for NHS staff. And I'd be happy to pay extra in tax for it. I help make whisky, these people save lives!!Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
I’m no saying I agree with their policies. There has to be a line somewhere though.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
I work for Edinburgh Uni, the pay isn’t great, and there’s no such thing as bonuses, but I like the job. We’re not getting a pay rise, prob not next year either.
My girlfriend is a dietitian in the NHS, and it could affect her. So...I’m not saying that it’s fair cos it won’t affect me. I’m saying it’s fair because this whole COVID **** has cost us a fortune already. At some point they have to look at ways to counter that.
Honestly, while I appreciate what they do, I’m not going to lose any sleep over doctors or surgeons not getting a pay rise. Plenty are going to be struggling more than them.
On NHS pay, I think the Scottish government has already committed to pay rises.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
true,Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
what about the other emergency services that won't now move up the pay bands and won't get pay rises either so in real time they'll see a fall.
same with the army - who are currently on the streets in English cities helping with testing that's failing.
16bn for defence been found though?
covid has to be paid for - by the people who worked through it so plenty could get 80% salary for staying at home safe for months.
plenty won't lose sleep over public sector pay because it doesn't impact them. that's what the government want. divide and conquer
the Tories are ****. nothing else.
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NHS frontline workers are exempt from the proposed wage freeze.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d63c74c691.jpg
Seems like a nice woman.
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Made up nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Priti never pronounces the letter "g".😆
There was no way Patel was going to be sacked after the Cummings debacle. The only good thing is it further erodes trust in the nasty party. The fact that the times and the telegraph are openly critical constantly tells you how bad these are ********s are. Utter ****bags with not one ounce of moral fibre amongst them. None of them would ever get a decent job if it wasn’t for the old school tie routine.
Don't you mean the Cummins debacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
:agree: Me too. And I felt similarly about Corbyns ‘apology for the hurt caused’ apology. If you feel like you’ve done nothing wrong, don’t apologise, argue your case. And If there’s clear evidence that you’ve been a bully, you need to just apologise for the bullying. The clear subtext otherwise is ‘it’s their fault for being upset’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
My daughter is about to start a new job, her first ‘proper’ one after graduating. At the Home Office :faf:
Dads don’t like bullies. That Patel needs to watch herself.
I think there's similarities between Trump's inner circle and the current UK Cabinet. They all have so much dirt on each other that if one of them gets the elbow, then it's mutually assured destruction. It's for that reason I believe Cummings is still on the inside.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjhibby
The most worrying part is that so long as they don't actually call out the behaviours of Bozo himself they can pretty much do what they like safe in the knowledge that they are effectively safe from the sack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
As you say it's a gang where what they have in common keeps them together, all we need is the Geoffrey Howe moment but as there's no one with any real gravitas or backbone amongst them we might have a long wait.
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Boris Battles Experts To Save Christmas!
Front page of the Express.
I see Phillip Rutland wasn't even interviewed for the inquiry into Patel's behaviour. What a joke.
One of the indirect benefits of the covid vaccine roll out is that it brings the end of some of the main players of this government ever closer.
An enquiry into the handling is inevitable and it will take place relatively soon after a return to normality. Whilst none of the devolved administrations are likely to come out of it well, the maim criticisms are going to be aimed at the UK govt. It simply won't be allowed to be a whitewash so there will be an expectation of resignations. I don't think any of the main players will want to hang around for that.
Johnson tendering his resignation on his own terms mid next year and taking up a life of paid consultancies and writing columns is highly likely imo.
Jesus wept.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Yes, clearly Bojo is a convert to Trumpism. No morals and the large Tory majority at Westminster makes him think he is invincible. Unlike Trump though his unwillingness to sack people that deserve it makes him a weak leader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
An absolute gift for those who want Scottish independence.
Trump doesn’t sack those who deserve it. He sacks anyone and everyone who disagrees/speaks out against him. Of which there have been a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
The whole Westminster cabal would never dream of doing such a thing towards BoJo.
If you had told me 35 years ago that a group of politicians would come along that were more despicable than the PM back then I would have laughed at you. But you would have been right. That PM governed by the principles she had, even though they were anathema to me. But she wasn’t a criminal (at least not in the formal sense), corrupt or a compulsive liar. Nor someone who condoned workplace bullying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
So this lot have sunk as far as they can go. You would like to think so, but I expect to be contradicted on that before too long.
By Easter is my predictionQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The faces might change but with the right wing of the party firmly in control the substance will remain the same, jobs and contracts for the boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
There's already suggestions Boris and his team got the Patel report watered down. The NAO report on the early covid contracts has already been dismissed out of hand.
The report from the enquiry into the cluster**** that has been the tory response to the pandemic will make you think you've been living in a parallel universe this past year.
Yeah, apparently asked for the Patel report to be "palatable". Clearly had no interest in the truth which has been the case since he was a journalist making up quotations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Also worth bearing in mind that Johnson has stuck with Rees-Mogg, who has refused MPs (including those who are seriously ill or care for vulnerable relatives) the ability to work from home because it doesn't suit him personally. They are actually putting people's lives at risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
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Originally Posted by ACLeith
yeah, he’ll wait til the vaccinations start, then claim a glorious churchillian victory steered by him, and try to step out on a (self perceived) high
Plenty potential for yet another statement and reality gap to emerge[emoji6]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b99d4f1b0a.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by McD
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Here is a genuine first - a Tory at pains to uncover the truth. (No, I'm not kidding).
Step forward Neil O'Brien MP *
https://twitter.com/NeilDotObrien/st...30796966518785
* almost certainly in the wrong party. :wink:
In the interests of balance you should have started a thread "Torys tell the truth".Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
This could have been the only entry.
Think you're jumping the gun a bit there - "Tory tells the truth" would be more accurate at this stage. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
"Tory tells the truth and has whip withdrawn for not following government policy"?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Despite Bozo requesting that the truth be made more palatable.
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Ben Bradley in the news again, this time for failing to get Martin Luther King. He's certainly stepped up recently to fill the howling void created by Fatty Francois's unexplained media disappearance.
And more....that nice Charlie Elphicke this time https://www.theguardian.com/law/2020...eferences-case
This is the beginning of another cycle where Johnson is the new damage sink and the papers, and subsequently the public, will all forget anything bad ever happened and all go back to loving everything about the Tories when Sunak replaces him. It's exactly the same as what happened with May.
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Is this a euphemism, like, "He didn't get his Nat King Cole"?
:dunno:
You're maybe thinking of 'MLK' being used as rhyming slang for 'end away', but I didn't intend it like that. Family board and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Disappointing but... fair enough.
What did he actually say?
Michelle Ballantyne has resigned for some reason. I'm guessing it's an anti-lockdown thing?
She thinks the Tories have drifted too far to the left!! Probably off to join UKiP or Galloway's bunch of nutballsQuote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius