Boxing!

Staggering.

Hahahaha.joke

What a ****ing joke that is

Em what 😂

No wonder I don't watch boxing very much - what a disgrace that is. 🤣🤣🤣

that's no right

Hahahaha Caterell robbed

😂 that's ridiculous. Obviously I wanted Taylor to win, but that's nothing short of a fix. Carterall won that fight!

What a farce! 😲

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It is.

As I said above Andre Ward had it for Taylor though. I think the fact he was walking forward a lot has stolen him 2 or 3 rounds.

Home town decision though for me. I'd call it that if it was anyone else so not going to be a hypocrite just because it's a guy I like.

catterall knows he won that

we know he won that

Embarrassing decision


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That’s an absolute joke. It wasn’t even close.

Boxing is corrupt surprise. Makes you wonder what the point is.

Mental result. As much as I wanted him to win, that's a shocking decision.

That's a shocker :faf:

Big boxing fan but im about to give up on it. So many big decsions over the years but tonight jesus.

One thing is certain, there won’t be a rematch.


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two English judges and one Scottish, i don't think it would be the Scottish judge that gave the 114-111

Kidding yersel Josh, no danger did you win it

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Agree embarrassment of a decision. Shameful

He might be a Hibby but that was a scandalous decision.
Tell you what, he’d make a great Tory MP with that “I totally won that” speech.

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It is.

As I said above Andre Ward had it for Taylor though. I think the fact he was walking forward a lot has stolen him 2 or 3 rounds.

Home town decision though for me. I'd call it that if it was anyone else so not going to be a hypocrite just because it's a guy I like.

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If Ward is scoring it that way then maybe I don't know what I'm taking about. lol. Interesting other people's take on it.

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two English judges and one Scottish, i don't think it would be the Scottish judge that gave the 114-111

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Scottish one was 113 112. The 114 111 scoreline was horrific

Catterall not giving an interview


don't blame him he will be pretty angry

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Scottish one was 113 112. The 114 111 scoreline was horrific

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Ian John Lewis was that judge, he has history of watching a completely different fight to 99.9% of the world

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some english boxing fans will hunt him down if he's on twitter :dizzy:


taylor would certainly do well to stay off it for a day or so

I don't watch boxing often, is it always like this? How can anyone take it seriously?

wow, i honestly think they dudes want this to go all the way to Westminster


worzel Johnson will get the final decision

CompuBox saw Catterall land 120 of 525 (23%) total punches, and 81 of 267 (30%) of his power punches. Taylor was at 73 of 306 (24%) overall, and 57 of 179 (32%) on power shots. Catterall out-worked and out-landed Taylor on the punch stats.

If that was a role reversal, and Taylor had been on the end of that decision in England, people on here saying Taylor won that tonight would have been screaming fix.

As for the judge who had Taylor 114-111, what a farce!

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CompuBox saw Catterall land 120 of 525 (23%) total punches, and 81 of 267 (30%) of his power punches. Taylor was at 73 of 306 (24%) overall, and 57 of 179 (32%) on power shots. Catterall out-worked and out-landed Taylor on the punch stats.

If that was a role reversal, and Taylor had been on the end of that decision in England, people on here saying Taylor won that tonight would have been screaming fix.

As for the judge who had Taylor 114-111, what a farce!

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To be fair, that's pretty much what everyone IS saying on here, and the fight was in Scotland.

MMA > Boxing


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Taylor will wake up today knowing he is very lucky still to have the belts, thought catterall won but not by as much as some of the sky folk last night, he certainly didnt win the first 6 rounds as a couple of them mentioned, some were very scrappy and even. I said on friday taylor looked very drawn in around the face, the weight is clearly an issue for him now

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Taylor will wake up today knowing he is very lucky still to have the belts, thought catterall won but not by as much as some of the sky folk last night, he certainly didnt win the first 6 rounds as a couple of them mentioned, some were very scrappy and even. I said on friday taylor looked very drawn in around the face, the weight is clearly an issue for him now

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I doubt we'll see Taylor at 140 again and I doubt he'll go in against someone like Crawford for the 1st time at 147 either.

He was clearly weight drained this week and I think he underestimated Catterall as well. He went in looking to KO him for the spectacular homecoming and got caught by the same straight left about 25 times when he was jumping in. I didn't much rate the advice coming from his corner either and I'm sceptical about just how good Ben Davison is. Tyson Fury called him 'stale' and Taylor's performance last night certainly looked that.

Fwiw I agree the decision isn't as big a travesty as some are making out. Catterall won imo but it was a couple of rounds at most. There were 3 or 4 of the 1st 6 rounds you could have scored either way. JC allowed Taylor to win a few of the late rounds, albeit one would be called 9-9 for the points deduction. That probably does Taylor a slight disservice as well as he belatedly changed up enough to start nicking the rounds. Every away boxer knows you can't leave decisions like that to be really close. The crowd react to everything the home fighter does, every puch thrown whether it connects or bounces off arms is treated like a last minute winner and that will sway judges. I also think it's interesting to listen to a 'neutral' perspective as well. By all accounts the UK commentary team were calling it one it one of the worst decisions ever. I watched a US broadcast and whilst very critical of his performance both Andre Ward and Tim Bradley felt Taylor just nicked it.

It's worth remembering Taylor had a bad camp as well. A knee injury, covid and a chest infection all set him back. He looked ill all week. I also think he'd like to remain more active going forward.

I wasn't able to make it along last night, the 1st Taylor fight in the UK I have missed, so my perspective may be a bit skewed but everything about him just seemed off. Hopefully he can make a decision on the weight and get back in the ring by the autumn.

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I doubt we'll see Taylor at 140 again and I doubt he'll go in against someone like Crawford for the 1st time at 147 either.

He was clearly weight drained this week and I think he underestimated Catterall as well. He went in looking to KO him for the spectacular homecoming and got caught by the same straight left about 25 times when he was jumping in. I didn't much rate the advice coming from his corner either and I'm sceptical about just how good Ben Davison is. Tyson Fury called him 'stale' and Taylor's performance last night certainly looked that.

Fwiw I agree the decision isn't as big a travesty as some are making out. Catterall won imo but it was a couple of rounds at most. There were 3 or 4 of the 1st 6 rounds you could have scored either way. JC allowed Taylor to win a few of the late rounds, albeit one would be called 9-9 for the points deduction. That probably does Taylor a slight disservice as well as he belatedly changed up enough to start nicking the rounds. Every away boxer knows you can't leave decisions like that to be really close. The crowd react to everything the home fighter does, every puch thrown whether it connects or bounces off arms is treated like a last minute winner and that will sway judges. I also think it's interesting to listen to a 'neutral' perspective as well. By all accounts the UK commentary team were calling it one it one of the worst decisions ever. I watched a US broadcast and whilst very critical of his performance both Andre Ward and Tim Bradley felt Taylor just nicked it.

It's worth remembering Taylor had a bad camp as well. A knee injury, covid and a chest infection all set him back. He looked ill all week. I also think he'd like to remain more active going forward.

I wasn't able to make it along last night, the 1st Taylor fight in the UK I have missed, so my perspective may be a bit skewed but everything about him just seemed off. Hopefully he can make a decision on the weight and get back in the ring by the autumn.

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Yip cant see him at this weight again, struggling to make weight takes its toll eventually, i seen a reference to davidson as a boxercise coach last night and im not so sure myself if he has the qualities that taylor needs in a coach, he needs to have a serious think soon if he does go up in weight, hopefully its a one off bad night at the office and he goes up in weight and wins another belt

Comfortable victory for Lawrence Okolie

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/60549530

Boxing Board now investigating the decision to award Taylor the win

Taylor would need to improve ten fold to have any chance against Crawford.

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I expect they'd uphold the decision. Tell us the judges justified their scores and there is nothing amiss, and that will be that. Decision awarded and ratified.

All us regular punters that watched the fight, and find the decision an embarrassment, clearly aren't qualified to call it.

Edit: I note from the article they don't have the power to overturn the decision in any case.

OMFG House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat (msn.com)


i joked about this in the minutes after the fight finished, they've only gone and done it :faf: my goodness



House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat

Sir Lindsay Hoyle, who is Catterall’s MP, has written to both Dame Cressida Dick, the outgoing Scotland Yard commissioner, and the British Boxing Board of Control to express his outrage.


Hoyle is a total f*d anyway

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OMFG House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat (msn.com)


i joked about this in the minutes after the fight finished, they've only gone and done it :faf: my goodness



House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat

Sir Lindsay Hoyle, who is Catterall’s MP, has written to both Dame Cressida Dick, the outgoing Scotland Yard commissioner, and the British Boxing Board of Control to express his outrage.


Hoyle is a total f*d anyway

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Ball hair away from being a tory, he really annoys me

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i joked about this in the minutes after the fight finished, they've only gone and done it :faf: my goodness



House of Commons speaker makes complaint to Scotland Yard over Jack Catterall’s controversial defeat

Sir Lindsay Hoyle, who is Catterall’s MP, has written to both Dame Cressida Dick, the outgoing Scotland Yard commissioner, and the British Boxing Board of Control to express his outrage.


Hoyle is a total f*d anyway

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I think it's more to do with the corrupt people who sponsor Taylor, perhaps there is evidence of something else at play here.

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Which of his sponsors are corrupt?

It do you mean his management company, MTK? As has been pointed out to you in the other thread, both Josh & Jack are managed by MTK.

The whole thing is just getting ridiculous now. I think Catterall won but there were a fair few close rounds and you always run the risk of those going the way of the champ at home. It's nowhere near the worst decision ever as some seem determined to suggest. It's just people being whipped into a frenzy, I watched the fight on ESPN, rewatched with no commentary then watched it again with the Sky commentary. The latter will definitely have swayed how a lot of people perceived the fight, again I'll reiterate I though Taylor lost a close decision but Sky were bias in the extreme. Teddy Atlas is a guy who has been on a few epic rants about poor judging in the past, he had Taylor winning a close fight, as did Andre Ward.

The biggest issue I have is people demanding Taylor admits he lost. Firstly why should he? Secondly how often does that happen? When fighters get away with one they rarely admit it. Boxing without a KO or TKO relies entirely on subjective opinion, Taylor is entitled to his that he won a close fight. Whether he really believes that is irrelevant, he has future fights to sell. The whole loaded language around it from people who should really know better who then follow up with a reminder that it isn't Taylor's fault is just not good enough. It's easy to give that reminder after the guys family have been threatened.

Catterall fought a severely weight drained Taylor coming into the fight on the back of an injury and 2 bouts of illness. Taylor was there for the taking in the final rounds, Catterall spent a lot of them spoiling and holding, he left it to chance and he was on the end of a poor but not entirely inexplicable decision. There's not a lot more to it than that.

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The whole thing is just getting ridiculous now. I think Catterall won but there were a fair few close rounds and you always run the risk of those going the way of the champ at home. It's nowhere near the worst decision ever as some seem determined to suggest. It's just people being whipped into a frenzy, I watched the fight on ESPN, rewatched with no commentary then watched it again with the Sky commentary. The latter will definitely have swayed how a lot of people perceived the fight, again I'll reiterate I though Taylor lost a close decision but Sky were bias in the extreme. Teddy Atlas is a guy who has been on a few epic rants about poor judging in the past, he had Taylor winning a close fight, as did Andre Ward.

The biggest issue I have is people demanding Taylor admits he lost. Firstly why should he? Secondly how often does that happen? When fighters get away with one they rarely admit it. Boxing without a KO or TKO relies entirely on subjective opinion, Taylor is entitled to his that he won a close fight. Whether he really believes that is irrelevant, he has future fights to sell. The whole loaded language around it from people who should really know better who then follow up with a reminder that it isn't Taylor's fault is just not good enough. It's easy to give that reminder after the guys family have been threatened.

Catterall fought a severely weight drained Taylor coming into the fight on the back of an injury and 2 bouts of illness. Taylor was there for the taking in the final rounds, Catterall spent a lot of them spoiling and holding, he left it to chance and he was on the end of a poor but not entirely inexplicable decision. There's not a lot more to it than that.

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Agree with everything you say, Ritson and Davies both had "wins" against Vazquez that were even worse scorecards but because he is Mexican there wasn't as much fuss, same with Campbell Hattons fight a couple back

Not long until the Wood Conlan fight. Reckon it could be a cracker.

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Looking forward to it. The Mexican in with Agyarko at the minute is a hard laddie. Taking some hard shots.


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Looking forward to it. The Mexican in with Agyarko at the minute is a hard laddie. Taking some hard shots.


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There’s a fair few Irish fans in.

Wow what a punch

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Last punch of the round as well.

Wood has done very well to survive that round.

I actually thought wood had won the first round until that punch. But absolutely had to hang on in the second.


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Wood is so gutsy but Conlan is too fast for him. Be interesting if Wood catches Conlan with a big punch.

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Wood is so gutsy but Conlan is too fast for him. Be interesting if Wood catches Conlan with a big punch.

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Conlan is levels above Wood, all he has is a punchers chance

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Maybe slightly unfair. Wood has held his own. Doesn’t have the speed of Conlan but his aggression is a strength.


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Don’t disagree but Wood has shown he has the heart of a lion. Needs a ko though

This has been a cracking fight, Wood is coming back into it, but Conlan is still landing big punches.

i think Wood has this


what a round this has been

That makes things interesting.

Hahaha what a finish, just needed to stay out his way, was well up on the cards for me

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Yeah I’ll revisit this. You got that wrong [emoji1787]


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That’ll be the ko. Hope Conlan is ok

Wow what a finish that was.

wood still had plenty flurries left conlan had nothing left ibn the tank


great fight though

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Stand by it, as a boxer Conlan is a much better fighter than Wood, who is hard as nails and can punch, should have just danced his was to victory in the last round and ****ed it

What a finish, wasn't expecting that, well done wood

Fair play to Wood. Even in what must have been a moment of exhilaration he showed pure class and humanity.

https://twitter.com/the_irishpsycho/...161817604?s=21

But worrying that tbh. That punch from Wood doesn’t look enough to knock him clean out.


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Had Conlan winning wide. Just needed to stay off the ropes and coast to a win. Unbelievable finish!

Conlan apparently up and communicating.

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Conlan was levels above. Fairytale finish

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If you’re purely talking boxing skills, I agree, but you then need to factor in aggression, heart, determination. I had Conlan 1 up going into the last round.


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If you’re purely talking boxing skills, I agree, but you then need to factor in aggression, heart, determination. I had Conlan 1 up going into the last round.


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I didn’t score rounds but passively had Conlan at least 3 up before the 11rd KD. Just needed to box and move the last round and the title was his. Silly of him to stand on the ropes last round, but, easy to say that from here.

Heart and determination was superb from both men all night and not sure you could say Wood showed more of either. He took advantage of a mistake in the final round and got the finish.

Thankfully Conlan seems to be fine after his KO. I thought he was excellent last night, but he was very naive in the later rounds. Fight of the year so far though.

https://twitter.com/boxingshrew/stat...584186886?s=21

Better view of the punch that done the job


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And all smiles from both fighters today. All good to see

https://twitter.com/michaelbensonn/s...318216704?s=21


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For anyone with some time to kill the Boxing Scotland Youth and Elite Championships are taking place at Ravenscraig today. Live stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by0PKl9fpq8 with Alex Arthur Jr fighting at the moment. Jamie Buchanan to also fight at some point.

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Alex Arthur Jr beat in the semi one of the gang that got charged for murdering shaun Woodburn, which is good. Looks class for his age

What an opening round for Warrington.


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Warrington looks like he throws more headbutts than punches

I like Warrington but the headbuts are unreal and he's just beaten a cherry picked 36 year old, Hearns no daft, will likely make the Wood fight next instead of giving Lara another go

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I like Warrington but the headbuts are unreal and he's just beaten a cherry picked 36 year old, Hearns no daft, will likely make the Wood fight next instead of giving Lara another go

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He was the ibf champion, cherry picked?

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I like Warrington but the headbuts are unreal and he's just beaten a cherry picked 36 year old, Hearns no daft, will likely make the Wood fight next instead of giving Lara another go

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As stairway says, Kiko was the champion. Don’t see the problem there.
And Warrington v Wood is a spectacle.


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I like Kiko Martinez, been some fighter over the years, but hes 36 and beat a severely weight drained Galahad(who I don't like so was happy) so yes he was cherry picked as the weakest of the champions and the easiest fight to make, as I said Hearn isn't daft

funny how in the names mentioned afterwards that Lara's name wasn't even mentioned

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I like Kiko Martinez, been some fighter over the years, but hes 36 and beat a severely weight drained Galahad(who I don't like so was happy) so yes he was cherry picked as the weakest of the champions and the easiest fight to make, as I said Hearn isn't daft

funny how in the names mentioned afterwards that Lara's name wasn't even mentioned

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Going for 1 of the 4 titles isn't cherry picking its common sense and opens him up to the other belts. So is fighting wood next if it brings in more ppv buys, it's a big British fight. Lara has no belts so why fight him over one of the other 3 champs, or wood that brings more money

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Going for 1 of the 4 titles isn't cherry picking its common sense and opens him up to the other belts. So is fighting wood next if it brings in more ppv buys, it's a big British fight. Lara has no belts so why fight him over one of the other 3 champs, or wood that brings more money

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Agree 100%.


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Going for 1 of the 4 titles isn't cherry picking its common sense and opens him up to the other belts. So is fighting wood next if it brings in more ppv buys, it's a big British fight. Lara has no belts so why fight him over one of the other 3 champs, or wood that brings more money

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Both Hearn and Warrington went on record after the 2nd fight and said Lara would get a rematch, that's why I find I funny his name wasn't even brought up

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/u...ara-3-21493464


https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/news/boxi...d1s9kkmtjivktd

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Both Hearn and Warrington went on record after the 2nd fight and said Lara would get a rematch, that's why I find I funny his name wasn't even brought up

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/u...ara-3-21493464


https://www.dazn.com/en-GB/news/boxi...d1s9kkmtjivktd

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Let’s be honest, when Lara has nothing to offer, it will take him longer to get a fight.
If you could fight Lara for the sake of it, or wood to add another title, who are you gonna choose?


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Let’s be honest, when Lara has nothing to offer, it will take him longer to get a fight.
If you could fight Lara for the sake of it, or wood to add another title, who are you gonna choose?


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Yep no one wants to fight a good fighter with no belt unless there is big money, that's why the person needs to gain mandatory. Ufc is better at getting the best fighting and boxing should change, but in the meantime..

American authorities have put a $5m reward up for the arrest of Daniel Kinahan for drug & money laundering offences. Now we know why the James English interview was pulled!

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Lots of his usual cheerleaders are pretty silent so far today, as we all alluded to previously on this thread, it was hardly a well kept secret where his money and power came from, the DEA won't **** about either now they have announced they are in the mix

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Yep was clear as day. All the big names over here smiled and posed with him and of course took his cash

1/6 Tyson Fury
4/1 Dillian Whyte


need to pick a round for decent odds :(

Anyone been watching the Benn v van Heerden undercard?

I almost spat my beer out when Carl Froch said Campbell Hatton had been “erotic”. I hope he meant erratic :faf:

A few brilliant memes on Twitter off the back of it.

Hopefully Hearn puts Benn in with a top 10 welterweight soon, I like him and he's exciting but there is no way to gauge how good he is with the opponent's he keeps getting handed

MTK Global to cease operations.

As a business we have faced unprecedented levels of unfair scrutiny and criticism since the sanctioning by the US Government of Daniel Joseph Kinahan.

It is a matter of public record that Mr Kinahan's involvement in MTK ceased in 2017, and despite repeated reassurances in this regard, unfounded allegations about his ongoing association with us and our fighters persist.

Since leading promoters have now informed us that they will be severing all ties with MTK and will no longer work with our fighters, we have taken the difficult decision to cease operations at the end of this month.

MTK prospered because we always put the long term interests of our fighters at the heart of what we do. Our priority in the weeks ahead will be to ensure that our world class boxers are supported to find new partnerships as swiftly as possible.

MTK gyms are operated independently so will remain open for the foreseeable future. Further announcements will be made in due course.

Thank you to all the fans who have supported us over the last decade.

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MTK Global to cease operations.

As a business we have faced unprecedented levels of unfair scrutiny and criticism since the sanctioning by the US Government of Daniel Joseph Kinahan.

It is a matter of public record that Mr Kinahan's involvement in MTK ceased in 2017, and despite repeated reassurances in this regard, unfounded allegations about his ongoing association with us and our fighters persist.

Since leading promoters have now informed us that they will be severing all ties with MTK and will no longer work with our fighters, we have taken the difficult decision to cease operations at the end of this month.

MTK prospered because we always put the long term interests of our fighters at the heart of what we do. Our priority in the weeks ahead will be to ensure that our world class boxers are supported to find new partnerships as swiftly as possible.

MTK gyms are operated independently so will remain open for the foreseeable future. Further announcements will be made in due course.

Thank you to all the fans who have supported us over the last decade.

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Ooft, can't wait for the books, documentaries, podcasts etc to all come out once this is said and done, everyone is involved from amatuer boxing all the way through to the biggest promoters and broadcasters in the world

They all knew and turned a blind eye until now

MTK must be dreaming if they think folk will believe kinahan has had nothing to do with them since 2017, doesnt really matter anyway as probellum are up and running now

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Exactly, we’ll get a few years of Probellum then another re-branding.

Just catching up with the Fury v whyte build up online.

I’ve got a funny feeling Whyte is going to put him down early on. Not convinced he will necessarily stop him though.