Trump wrote: “The tariffs will drive massive amounts of auto manufacturing to MICHIGAN, a State which I just easily one [sic] in the Presidential Election”Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
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Trump wrote: “The tariffs will drive massive amounts of auto manufacturing to MICHIGAN, a State which I just easily one [sic] in the Presidential Election”Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
I’m sure it will hurt Michigan in the short medium term.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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The thing I sometimes wonder about is whether or not there would be any sort of appetite for a pre-emptive strike from some sort of establishment figures against them? As in, performing sort of coup of their own in name of the greater good rather than see the nation, the power and all the weapons transferred from people representing "the people of America" in good faith to the hands of maniacs indefinitely?Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
There will surely be the possibility that cases for treason could be built by those in the vicinity of Trump and co, same for the supreme court judges etc? It almost feels to me like a pre-emptive strike in the name of the nation's best interests and the greater good would be more palatable than letting the place fall to the nutcases?
Will there not be some very scary people on the inside who Trump will be very much getting on the wrong side of? These people could be clever, heavily armed and organised.
There is possibly a point of no return that hasn't yet been reached.
Risky (particularly whilst public opinion remains on Trump's side) but arguably necessary at some point, if not now?
What happens going forward with the FBI will be very interesting indeed. If he successfully manages to neutralise them, well...
(As a wild guess!) I'd say that Right 'Uns in government are outnumbered by Wrong 'Uns, and would likely find themselves in jail on insurrection charges. I think there would need to be a popular uprising first, so that authority figures are more concerned about their electoral future or freedom if they don't take action, than of Trump of they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I'm not generally comfortable with allowing things to get worse for people so they change course, but as things are just now, it looks like the alternative would be even worse than that.
So, it might turn out that the reckless, feckless and rapid-fire way infrastructure, services and finances are being attacked might work out better. People will quickly see detrimental change, and that seems to be more likely to shake folk out of their complacency than a more cautious drawn-out destruction of the civic state that people would become desensitised to.
All very fair and interesting points.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
Generally I am VERY anti-gun.
But is there potentially a chance that the potentially incredibly disaffected - heavily armed and dangerous - could form an incredibly strong and scary bloc of opposition to a hypothetical government and military who were looking to subjugate them?
Thus, eventually justifying what have always seemed to be irrational laws on firearms?
Trump (and subsequent dictators) only prevent this by either actually improving peoples’ lives or at least chucking them enough scraps and ruling with enough fear (not so compatible with cutting defence and police budgets) to keep the hordes placid?
I guess we'll see. The worry would be that the folks with the powerful weapons are on the wrong side. :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Superbowl winners decline White house visit, fly eagles fly :)
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I’m utterly convinced that Trump will make sure he stays for a third term, and that won’t be by fair means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I’m also convinced he’ll do far worse things than that over the next few years.
I read a Trump-sympathising commentator say recently that the thing that many people don’t understand about Trump is that it’s the shock factor in the things he says and does that he relies on.
Hardly a massively astute point, as we all know that he constantly and deliberately courts controversy.
But the much more sinister side of that is, when you go for shock value all the time - and your rabid base always laps it up - the only way you can keep going is to do things that are more extreme and more shocking. I shudder to think where we might end up.
Since January 6th, aided by many of the Supreme Court justices being so corrupt, we’ve basically been watching a coup in slow motion. Now he’s in the White House he won’t be giving that up for anyone - and the loyalist maniacs that he’s put in charge of all of major departments and agencies will make sure he doesn’t have to.
Let’s see how far he pushes his immunity too.
[QUOTE=Stevie Reid;7906029]I’m utterly convinced that Trump will make sure he stays for a third term, and that won’t be by fair means.
I’m also convinced he’ll do far worse things than that over the next few years.
I read a Trump-sympathising commentator say recently that the thing that many people don’t understand about Trump is that it’s the shock factor in the things he says and does that he relies on.
Hardly a massively astute point, as we all know that he constantly and deliberately courts controversy.
But the much more sinister side of that is, when you go for shock value all the time - and your rabid base always laps it up - the only way you can keep going is to do things that are more extreme and more shocking. I shudder to think where we might end up.
Since January 6th, aided by many of the Supreme Court justices being so corrupt, we’ve basically been watching a coup in slow motion. Now he’s in the White House he won’t be giving that up for anyone - and the loyalist maniacs that he’s put in charge of all of major departments and agencies will make sure he doesn’t have to.
Let’s see how far he pushes his immunity too.[/QUOTE]
Maybe we'll find out if unconstitutional acts count as 'official acts'.:dunno:
I suspect we will.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
There’s still a bit of me that wants to think that even biased and essentially corrupt judges will have a point their loyalty won’t go beyond. I know there are huge flaws in the American system but these are people of intelligence and morals. There’s loyalism to someone who may be ushering in tax breaks for the prosperous but just because that may be tolerable to them doesn’t mean that all sorts atrocities would be fair game. They’ll all have red lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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Originally Posted by Smartie
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
It was a clip from a podcast where Donald Trump Jr was questioning why the Americans picked the side of Ukraine in this conflict, saying that if anything they should have been sending weapons to the Russians, given Russia’s size, nuclear weapons, natural resources etc.
Even by their usual standards it was staggeringly stupid and quite chilling.
A guy I follow had deleted it shorty after posting as he couldn't find the soundbite in the podcast it was purported to be from. Looks like it was AI, but of course it wasn't at all unbelievable given that cretin's usual output.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Some will have. I suspect the majority that he requires will not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
i see Romania lifted the travel ban on the vile Tate brothers, both travelled on a private jet to USA
wonder if they've both purchased a Trump Golden Visa card
birds of a feather and all that
They'll be straight to Mar-a-lago and into Trump's inner circle.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Pretty sure they’re American citizens. Bellends.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Their UK citizenship should be cancelled then just like the young girl who went to Syria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
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well at least Trump was spot on re the fool president that signed this in 2019 :)
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his friend Nigel will probably visit as well, if he finds time to leave his Clacton constituency that isQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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they are, and to think they have a large following on social media that think they were/are cool dudes :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
It's the social media following that's most of interest to Trump - though the fact that they're cut from the same cloth as Trump himself, obviously helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
His disgusting online army of rabid ****wits just gets bigger and bigger all the time.
Trump - Starmer live press conference starting shortly on ITV X
Trump has apparently said that if he was president the October 7th Hamas attack would never have happened,
:rolleyes:
The guy is way beyond delusional, he's full scale straight jacket material.
It was a hard watch.[emoji2961]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
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Sooooooo.
I’ve been utterly depressed by the state of the world the last few days, predominately because of Trump’s stance on Ukraine but it tentatively looks like Ukraine could be ok in the next couple of days.
Starmer has obviously kissed his *rse with a state visit but could it be that Trump has played a blinder?
He has said that any deal could involve the return of some lands to Ukraine.
I’m speechless about the about turn in the last couple of days for Ukraine.
Could he be a good negotiator??? I know this will be cat nip to many
Spot on, if he pulls off a deal Ukraine are happy with then surely that's a result? Trump is an idiot but I am pretty sure under Biden we would still have the Gaza war and the Ukrainian war ongoing for a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
I think there is a lot of hysterics over Trump, some deserved but some is way over the top.
Thanks for agreeing. Trump is a *unt but he may just pull off a miracleQuote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
I don’t think there is a deal out there that Putin can agree to but we’ll have to see. If Trump pulls off anything successful then fair dos and I don’t care what damage he does in America. That’s on them.
So far though I haven’t heard home mention a single thing Russia has to give up?
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As long as people stop dying I’ll be happy and no more wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby