State sponsored murder, supported by many in the West. With much more to comeQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Printable View
State sponsored murder, supported by many in the West. With much more to comeQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2fc2c7797e.jpg
Australia now calling for a ceasefire. Starmer and Sunak still happy to carry on.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
BBC seems to be quite behind on reporting this for sone reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The conflict in the Middle East is the 2nd most talked about subject at the MSC today. Putin murdering Navalny has knocked it down the pecking order.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
All very laudable objectives but they might as well be pissing in the wind. Israel do not want a 2 state solution, who is going to make them negotiate one? A land offensive in Rafa would catastrophic? What the hell has it been up to now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The Palestinians need action, not mealy mouthed platitudes, however laudable they may be
Netanyahu isn’t interested in a two state solution. When he’s voted out, the new people might think differently. Netanyahu is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
They may but I have not seen anything that gives me hope they will.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
When are the elections?Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
They are not due to be held until October 2026.Quote:
Originally Posted by AgentDaleCooper
Someone needs to stop Israeli attacks.
https://www-aljazeera-com.cdn.amppro...uthern-lebanon
Absolutely ridiculous behaviour!!!
It's all good. Our soon to king and overlord has said it should all stop. It's a major intervention apparently...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68343334
I watched that on BBC news and 2 stories later it was about Labour calling for a ceasefire that was doomed to failure according to the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
https://x.com/owenthompson/status/17...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Who’s telling the truth?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Hard to tell, but it's ****ing depressing that one or both of them are using this conflict as a point scoring exercise. The absolute state of our politics at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Sent from my YAL-L21 using Tapatalk
All 4 parties involved are completely using the genocide as point scoring, they are all pathetic. The votes going to fail due to the Tories so can each party not just put out an official statement of what their exact opinion is. Stop the trying to trip each other up and arguing about words. Just let the public know your position and don't worry about the other parties conscienceQuote:
Originally Posted by McSwanky
What games are the SNP playing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I saw one mp say there are literally lives at stake just vote for the bill, or along they lines. F off no lives are at stake from this bill that will fail. Labour have the right to agree to the wording they want just as the SNP do. Stop the political fake rage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Snp cheif whip says no contact with him. Lib dems and Labour say they both asked for two state solution to be added. What a load of guff. If a company was run like the bairns at Westminster it would go bustQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
OwenThompson
Please tell me who you reached out to? As SNP Chief Whip no request was made to me
@wendychambLD
We did reach out last year, and the answer was “no”. We reached out this time, had a meeting, but no change. Both times we asked for a two state solution to be included as the best means for a lasting peace
Would Starmers position have moved without the SNP vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Probably as the public are now more in favour of a ceasefire so he would do the populist thing, he'd do it ridiculously slowly as he's more worried about the antisemitism label they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I think the large gains in three polls yesterday show the general public don't have it high on their priorities unfortunately, so he should have just fully backed ceasefire (if hostages released) earlier
I disagree. If this vote was not happening where would the pressure for him to change position come from? Labour would not have brought this vote. He has moved position because the vote is happening and his mp’s are telling him they will vote with the snp if he does not change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I do agree that public opinion is of no consequence here. Foreign policy does not move votes at a GE.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Your right in that he probably would have hoped it would slip away without him having to talk about it. He'll wish tomorrow wasn't happening he seems a leader who doesn't want confrontation or to make a decision. He's lucky the tories are awful as I think many past tory leaders would have destroyed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Israel is going to take Rafah Starmer will hope its over by summer. The public forget easily, look at crimea, Kabul and Aleppo. He'll have to be more statesman like when leader though as he looks pathetic and only interested in the public view
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by McSwanky
Sam Coates called it right on Sky News yesterday describing the game playing by all parties as unedifying. None of them are blameless here.
https://x.com/tomfrench85/status/176...376913999?s=12
Game playing SNP will vote for Labour’s amendment.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Good!! regardless who initiated the motion or the wording, let’s get our Government to try pressure for a ceasefire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
US confirms it will drop aid into Gaza.
Just shows how little influence they have over Israel despite backing them to the hilt, that this is the only way they can get a tiny bit of help to those that need it.
All while supporting the Israeli genocide campaign.
Israel shooting civilians again, more words from various talking heads but no action.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68454348
What does it take for countries to just denounce and stop supporting the murderous regime.
Starmer will be wondering how many replacement bullets we’ll need to send.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As many as they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Police shoot dead a 12 year old kid for lighting a firework. One of 6 Palestinians killed that day.
And the west continues to back this murderous state.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68557147