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05-02-2023, 08:39 AM
Broken Gnome

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Originally Posted by McGruber

They freezed the picture for their equalizer and Shankland is the closest player to the goal and he's just offside. Not much in it at all but looks to be marginally off. No lines up, just the comment 'you can see he's not offside'.

It's crazy to think we have been awful and they have been good in the league yet there's 8 points between us. VAR robbed us of 2 at Ross County and clear penalty St Mirren at Tynecastle in last minute 1 nil down - 2 obvious VAR decisions and it could easily have been 4 points.

I think, not just VAR, but wrong VAR has cost us more - handball at ibrox and at least draw the match. Soft penalty for Killie and VAR offside against us less than Shankland off last night.

If it wasn't solely for bad VAR calls we could have been level or there about with them. Not to say we have been as good or we are better than them - we are not. The 2 derbies proved that. In terms of where we are in the league though it's fine margins, with those margins being corrupt

Really annoyed me was well they said Shankland's goal has taken a 'slight nick'. Went from being a routine save to unstoppable.

The choice of language and focus on certain incidents does tend to be very kind to them.
05-02-2023, 08:56 AM
SChibs

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Originally Posted by Booked4Being-Ugly

Describing Youan's excellent goal as a 'toe poke'. Phuds.

It was... and it was intentional. Don't see the issue
05-02-2023, 09:05 AM
BS44

Yogi Hughes had a wee family tiff with Alan Preston on Sportsound yesterday, didn't hear full conversation but Hughes wasn't happy that his cousin Preston hadn't mentioned him as one of the candidates for the Aberdeen manager!
05-02-2023, 09:15 AM
Not In The Know

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Originally Posted by SChibs

It was... and it was intentional. Don't see the issue

It wasn’t a toe poke.
05-02-2023, 09:25 AM
Allant1981

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Originally Posted by Not In The Know

It wasn’t a toe poke.

100% was a toe poke
05-02-2023, 09:28 AM
Jim44

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Originally Posted by BS44

Yogi Hughes had a wee family tiff with Alan Preston on Sportsound yesterday, didn't hear full conversation but Hughes wasn't happy that his cousin Preston hadn't mentioned him as one of the candidates for the Aberdeen manager!

He was miffed because Preston and Miller had been asked to mention candidates they rated and thought might be considered. Hughes was continually bigging himself up at every opportunity. He was quite embarrassing.
05-02-2023, 09:37 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Jim44

He was miffed because Preston and Miller had been asked to mention candidates they rated and thought might be considered. Hughes was continually bigging himself up at every opportunity. He was quite embarrassing.

Why would Yogi think his recent record would make him a candidate?
05-02-2023, 09:40 AM
Eyrie

He did use his toe but that wasn't a poke. More like toe-power.
05-02-2023, 09:41 AM
PatHead

I am amazed that they didn't focus on Campbell's booking yesterday. Thought it might have been a red rather than yellow.
Usually the type of thing both them and VAR hang us out to dry for.
05-02-2023, 11:30 AM
Cat Stanton

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

The Hearts producer and his control room team there getting themselves in a fanlkle and playing Hibs game by mistake as second last instead of their usual last place slot.:greengrin

Was on first last week...
05-02-2023, 11:44 AM
basehibby

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Originally Posted by Allant1981

It was!!

Outside of his right foot - not a toe poke. Not that it matters greatly as it ended up in the net!
05-02-2023, 12:00 PM
RyeSloan

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Originally Posted by PatHead

I am amazed that they didn't focus on Campbell's booking yesterday. Thought it might have been a red rather than yellow.
Usually the type of thing both them and VAR hang us out to dry for.

Yeah it looked a bad one but can only assume from another angle it wasn’t nearly as bad as it looked on first viewing.
05-02-2023, 12:34 PM
Alfred E Newman

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Originally Posted by McGruber

They freezed the picture for their equalizer and Shankland is the closest player to the goal and he's just offside. Not much in it at all but looks to be marginally off. No lines up, just the comment 'you can see he's not offside'.

It's crazy to think we have been awful and they have been good in the league yet there's 8 points between us. VAR robbed us of 2 at Ross County and clear penalty St Mirren at Tynecastle in last minute 1 nil down - 2 obvious VAR decisions and it could easily have been 4 points.

I think, not just VAR, but wrong VAR has cost us more - handball at ibrox and at least draw the match. Soft penalty for Killie and VAR offside against us less than Shankland off last night.

If it wasn't solely for bad VAR calls we could have been level or there about with them. Not to say we have been as good or we are better than them - we are not. The 2 derbies proved that. In terms of where we are in the league though it's fine margins, with those margins being corrupt

Watched it this morning. When the ball is crossed Shankland is definitely offside so how VAR ruled him onside I don't know.
05-02-2023, 12:57 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Booked4Being-Ugly

Describing Youan's excellent goal as a 'toe poke'. Phuds.

BBC Said the same about Dave Narey vs Brasil in 1982. Still a beautiful goal though.
05-02-2023, 01:05 PM
Booked4Being-Ugly

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

BBC Said the same about Dave Narey vs Brasil in 1982. Still a beautiful goal though.

Yeah, that’s what it reminded me of. I’m old enough to remember watching that game as well!

A toe poke to me suggests a lack of technique but I’m not going to argue if people think otherwise.
05-02-2023, 01:15 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Booked4Being-Ugly

Yeah, that’s what it reminded me of. I’m old enough to remember watching that game as well!

A toe poke to me suggests a lack of technique but I’m not going to argue if people think otherwise.

I think it is used to suggest a lack of technique often. In this case you can turn it round to mock who says it, in this case Jimmy Hill, as being a bit of a graceless dick :greengrin A goals a goal, no matter how you bunches up your toes to make the connection with the ball.

My favourite toe poke;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbmPFP9J4k
05-02-2023, 01:23 PM
SChibs

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

I think it is used to suggest a lack of technique often. In this case you can turn it round to mock who says it, in this case Jimmy Hill, as being a bit of a graceless dick :greengrin A goals a goal, no matter how you bunches up your toes to make the connection with the ball.

My favourite toe poke;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbmPFP9J4k

I raise you Ronaldinho's toe poke vs Chelsea
05-02-2023, 01:27 PM
Jim44

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

I think it is used to suggest a lack of technique often. In this case you can turn it round to mock who says it, in this case Jimmy Hill, as being a bit of a graceless dick :greengrin A goals a goal, no matter how you bunches up your toes to make the connection with the ball.

My favourite toe poke;
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbmPFP9J4k

A toe poke is the type of kick you would see a youngster without any skill perform. The Youan and Narey goals displayed outstanding technique for type of kick that was called for in the respective situations.
05-02-2023, 01:30 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by SChibs

I raise you Ronaldinho's toe poke vs Chelsea

Ooo yeah. Just watched that, almost a soft toe-poke, very unusual.
05-02-2023, 01:34 PM
hibsbollah

If any youngsters looking in are wondering what we’re talking about, here is Scotland vs one of the greatest teams of all time in 1982. Nareys goal 0:59 in. I wonder what ‘toe poke’ is in Portuguese…

https://youtu.be/x-lgJhIa8WA
05-02-2023, 01:41 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

If any youngsters looking in are wondering what we’re talking about, here is Scotland vs one of the greatest teams of all time in 1982. Nareys goal 0:59 in. I wonder what ‘toe poke’ is in Portuguese…

https://youtu.be/x-lgJhIa8WA

And a proper celebration from Narey. :wink:
05-02-2023, 01:43 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

And a proper celebration from Narey. :wink:

He looks like he’s putting up some shelves.
05-02-2023, 01:45 PM
HoboHarry

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

And a proper celebration from Narey. :wink:

That goal just pissed them off lol. What a team, Socrates and Falcao were just magnificent footballers.
05-02-2023, 01:53 PM
Allant1981

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Originally Posted by basehibby

Outside of his right foot - not a toe poke. Not that it matters greatly as it ended up in the net!

Was pretty much right in front of me, was a toe poke, agree it doesn't really matter but not sure why folk take exception to players scoring and calling it a toe poke
05-02-2023, 02:06 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

He looks like he’s putting up some shelves.

Reaching for the Hobnobs.
05-02-2023, 02:49 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by RyeSloan

Yeah it looked a bad one but can only assume from another angle it wasn’t nearly as bad as it looked on first viewing.

its hard to tell as there wasn’t much made of it or rshown, but I thought it looked like Campbell’s thigh makes contact rather than his boot/foot/studs, and it’s Watt’s momentum that causes him to tumble over. Would have been interesting to see other angles
05-02-2023, 03:04 PM
brog

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Originally Posted by PatHead

I am amazed that they didn't focus on Campbell's booking yesterday. Thought it might have been a red rather than yellow.
Usually the type of thing both them and VAR hang us out to dry for.

The commentator got a bit excited about it, almost shouting 'that was reckless surely' ( I paraphrase). His clear inference was that it should have been a red but given reckless = a yellow, all it did was confirm our commentators are as incompetent as our refs!
05-02-2023, 05:40 PM
hibeejeebies

Why is a toe poke considered an inferior action? Genuine question 🤷🏻
05-02-2023, 05:49 PM
Jim44

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Originally Posted by hibeejeebies

Why is a toe poke considered an inferior action? Genuine question 🤷🏻

That’s the point I was making above. There are situations where there is no room or time or in the right position to hit the ball conventionally with the top of the foot. In the case of Narey and Youan, they cleverly realised the ‘toe poke’ was the best option. The clowns on Sportscene, (professionals :rolleyes:) should have had the saavy to realise that.
05-02-2023, 06:06 PM
Tyler Durden

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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman

Watched it this morning. When the ball is crossed Shankland is definitely offside so how VAR ruled him onside I don't know.

Yeah I’ve yet to seen any photos with the lines drawn. A system administered by people who regularly show themselves to be incompetent but we’re meant to accept that offsides are factual

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