(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Pete

Let me see.

The EU, Mickey Mouse and the ghost of Stalin are coming to take away our freedom with chip and pin machines.

I’m not entirely convinced mate.

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I am. Now that it's been explained it all makes perfect sense ;-)

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Originally Posted by HomeTeam

How do you explain David Rockerfella who help fund the build of the twin towers sitting in front of the twin tower building site getting his picture taken on the cover of news week and his watch states 9/11?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe...033vceNPfRbiM:

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By the way, Rockefeller’s watch doesn’t state 9/11. It states ‘five to nine’ or 8:55. And that’s assuming that the blown-up grab hasn’t been manipulated by some conspiracy theorist with an agenda.

So the most plausible explanation is that was the time when the photo was taken. I take it your theory is that he adjusted his watch to tie in with a plan to bring down the [unbuilt] towers in 30 odd years time?

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Originally Posted by HomeTeam

Trumps son in law Jared Kushner owns 666 Fifth, Jared is married to Ivanka Trump.

666 Fifth Avenue is home to Lucent Technologies (Lucent meaning 'They Shine' also a play on Lucifer the light bearer). Lucent Technologies specialize in RFID, NFC Chip technology.

Fair enough nothing too sinister going on there it may seem but then i see this homage to 666 croping up in various technology companies and beyond.

The google logo is another representation of 666 and the CERN logo is another. Coca Cola, Disney are others that all pay homage to this 666. They are loads more but google, coca cola and Disney being the obviously corrupt ones that spring to mind.

Ultimately long story cut short its all about controlling and taking away peoples personal freedoms (maybe population in time). Cash being a freedom soon to be taken away it seems with introduction of a cashless society. Im sure it will go far beyond just a cashless society with AI and robot technology.

They reason i slate the far left as they are all about limiting freedom of expression, freedom of thinking and they champion communism - which has so far been the most murderous ideology known so this suits the evil agenda. Let the far left idiots shut down a section freedom, then they will use other methods like the EU. They EU will champion a cashless society and could push for Micro chipping people in order to keep the schengen zone ideal alive.

I think just sneakily bit by bit eroding personal freedoms.

I think the agenda has multiple options available to them Trump was an option, Hillary was an option but ultimately its all leading down the same path.

I cant explain it all, i dont know it all, i don't think they are all in it together as such most are just fighting for their share of what's on offer but there is an agenda at play and no matter who it is they all pay homage to this 666 or all seeing eye or whatever other symbols they love.

I haven't mentioned 9/11 yet but that plays a part also.

Then there is the predictive programming movies predicting 9/11 before it happened, how can that be explained.

How do you explain David Rockerfella who help fund the build of the twin towers sitting in front of the twin tower building site getting his picture taken on the cover of news week and his watch states 9/11?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe...033vceNPfRbiM:

Sounds too crazy to be believed i know but that''s just what i observe.

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If you can somehow tie Israel and religion into the whole theory then I'm in.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

If you can somehow tie Israel and religion into the whole theory then I'm in.

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And a good flat earth conspiracy too please

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Originally Posted by -Jonesy-

And a good flat earth conspiracy too please

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Surprised he/she never got involved with that thread from a few weeks back. Conspiracy theorists are incredibly funny.

C'mon, this has run it's course long enough - who is HomeTeam? One of you have surely set a secondary account up as a parody or alter ego.

I can't think of anything less likely to be part of an 'all seeing eye' conspiracy as CERN...surely that's the antithesis of a god/devil belief?

Anyway the CERN logo clearly related to the fact the thing is round and things fly around it but even if it was some sort of homage to a secret number code it's clearly either 6666 or 9999...

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Originally Posted by Pete

Let me see.

The EU, Mickey Mouse and the ghost of Stalin are coming to take away our freedom with chip and pin machines.

I’m not entirely convinced mate.

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That's exactly how they want you to think.

CERN could be short for Cernunos, the horned god of Celtic pagan belief.

Druid folk ken whits gaun on.

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Originally Posted by steakbake

CERN could be short for Cernunos, the horned god of Celtic pagan belief.

Druid folk ken whits gaun on.

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That's a relief... thank **** somebody does as this thread stopped making sense to me a good while ago :greengrin

https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.theg...deny-treatment

This is the start of something really sinister.

What's next, the right to refuse someone treatment because they're Black, Mexican or Muslim?

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.theg...deny-treatment

This is the start of something really sinister.

What's next, the right to refuse someone treatment because they're Black, Mexican or Muslim?

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A very worrying development and I think your decision of sinister covers it.

Some of the stuff on this thread has been a bit pantomine villain but this is a genuinely dark policy decision.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

https://www.google.de/amp/s/amp.theg...deny-treatment

This is the start of something really sinister.

What's next, the right to refuse someone treatment because they're Black, Mexican or Muslim?

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The human race's inability to learn from it's mistakes truly astounds me sometimes.

Couple of Trump related articles I've noticed today

Donald Trump prepared to apologise for Britain First retweets
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42829555

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Trump launches attack on 'predatory' trade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42835934

If he had come out with the Britain First thing when it happened and better explained where he was with "America 1st" .....e.g. "Mr Trump said he would always put the US first when it came to trade, but "that does not mean America alone"" then maybe, just maybe people would think him a little more presidential. .... maybe!

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Originally Posted by Just Alf

Couple of Trump related articles I've noticed today

Donald Trump prepared to apologise for Britain First retweets
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42829555

and
Trump launches attack on 'predatory' trade
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42835934

If he had come out with the Britain First thing when it happened and better explained where he was with "America 1st" .....e.g. "Mr Trump said he would always put the US first when it came to trade, but "that does not mean America alone"" then maybe, just maybe people would think him a little more presidential. .... maybe!

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US stocks are up 50% since his election. The 'home team' would say he's been a massive success, although even a cursory glance at his policies tell you that obviously the whole structure is based on decimating spending and tax cuts to benefit the 1%.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

US stocks are up 50% since his election. The 'home team' would say he's been a massive success, although even a cursory glance at his policies tell you that obviously the whole structure is based on decimating spending and tax cuts to benefit the 1%.

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Not disagreeing in general but it will be interesting to see what his corp tax cuts do...it might be a temporary effect as the companies bring their money back onshore but so far they have resulted in bonuses that go far beyond the 1% and seem to have spurred a number of large investments.

Also much more of America has its pensions tied up in stocks through their 401k's as compared to the UK so a rising market there again spreads its benefits well beyond the 1%.

I don't buy into the absolute link between who's in the White House and how the stock market / economy does but on both of the above counts the immediate impact of them at least won't be making many Americans cry.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

US stocks are up 50% since his election. The 'home team' would say he's been a massive success, although even a cursory glance at his policies tell you that obviously the whole structure is based on decimating spending and tax cuts to benefit the 1%.

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Stocks and unemployment figures in the US have been on an upward trend since the middle of Obama's first term in office. I'm not sure that Trump can take all the credit for the improvements, that won't stop him trying of course.

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Originally Posted by RyeSloan

Not disagreeing in general but it will be interesting to see what his corp tax cuts do...it might be a temporary effect as the companies bring their money back onshore but so far they have resulted in bonuses that go far beyond the 1% and seem to have spurred a number of large investments.

Also much more of America has its pensions tied up in stocks through their 401k's as compared to the UK so a rising market there again spreads its benefits well beyond the 1%.

I don't buy into the absolute link between who's in the White House and how the stock market / economy does but on both of the above counts the immediate impact of them at least won't be makingmany Americans cry.

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The 23 million who may lose their healthcare will

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Originally Posted by -Jonesy-

The 23 million who may lose their healthcare will

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That why I didn't disagree in general terms.

It is however possible that not ALL of his policies work only for the 1%...even a stopped clock is right twice a day [emoji12]

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Originally Posted by HomeTeam

Trumps son in law Jared Kushner owns 666 Fifth, Jared is married to Ivanka Trump.

666 Fifth Avenue is home to Lucent Technologies (Lucent meaning 'They Shine' also a play on Lucifer the light bearer). Lucent Technologies specialize in RFID, NFC Chip technology.

Fair enough nothing too sinister going on there it may seem but then i see this homage to 666 croping up in various technology companies and beyond.

The google logo is another representation of 666 and the CERN logo is another. Coca Cola, Disney are others that all pay homage to this 666. They are loads more but google, coca cola and Disney being the obviously corrupt ones that spring to mind.

Ultimately long story cut short its all about controlling and taking away peoples personal freedoms (maybe population in time). Cash being a freedom soon to be taken away it seems with introduction of a cashless society. Im sure it will go far beyond just a cashless society with AI and robot technology.

They reason i slate the far left as they are all about limiting freedom of expression, freedom of thinking and they champion communism - which has so far been the most murderous ideology known so this suits the evil agenda. Let the far left idiots shut down a section freedom, then they will use other methods like the EU. They EU will champion a cashless society and could push for Micro chipping people in order to keep the schengen zone ideal alive.

I think just sneakily bit by bit eroding personal freedoms.

I think the agenda has multiple options available to them Trump was an option, Hillary was an option but ultimately its all leading down the same path.

I cant explain it all, i dont know it all, i don't think they are all in it together as such most are just fighting for their share of what's on offer but there is an agenda at play and no matter who it is they all pay homage to this 666 or all seeing eye or whatever other symbols they love.

I haven't mentioned 9/11 yet but that plays a part also.

Then there is the predictive programming movies predicting 9/11 before it happened, how can that be explained.

How do you explain David Rockerfella who help fund the build of the twin towers sitting in front of the twin tower building site getting his picture taken on the cover of news week and his watch states 9/11?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe...033vceNPfRbiM:

Sounds too crazy to be believed i know but that''s just what i observe.

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That’s just beautiful. I’ve read and the re read that. I really wish I had such a poor grip on reality. Your life must be fabulous.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

Stocks and unemployment figures in the US have been on an upward trend since the middle of Obama's first term in office. I'm not sure that Trump can take all the credit for the improvements, that won't stop him trying of course.

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That is undoubtedly true, but are an electorate likely to vote out a president that’s delivering economic prosperity? As things stand a Trump second term seems more likely than not.
As incredulous as it seems to us in Europe, peopltwill vote on economic issues and Trump hasn’t been bad for the economy.

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Originally Posted by HomeTeam

How do you explain David Rockerfella who help fund the build of the twin towers sitting in front of the twin tower building site getting his picture taken on the cover of news week and his watch states 9/11?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe...033vceNPfRbiM:

Sounds too crazy to be believed i know but that''s just what i observe.

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His watch says its 8.55 though.

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

That is undoubtedly true, but are an electorate likely to vote out a president that’s delivering economic prosperity? As things stand a Trump second term seems more likely than not.
As incredulous as it seems to us in Europe, peopltwill vote on economic issues and Trump hasn’t been bad for the economy.

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The problem with the impact of politics on finance doesn't really become apparent for years after implementation, this means they could potentially vote for a guy that has already ruined them before they realise it.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

The problem with the impact of politics on finance doesn't really become apparent for years after implementation, this means they could potentially vote for a guy that has already ruined them before they realise it.

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Very true.

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

That is undoubtedly true, but are an electorate likely to vote out a president that’s delivering economic prosperity? As things stand a Trump second term seems more likely than not.
As incredulous as it seems to us in Europe, peopltwill vote on economic issues and Trump hasn’t been bad for the economy.

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So it seems. That's what he was hired to do.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

US stocks are up 50% since his election. The 'home team' would say he's been a massive success, although even a cursory glance at his policies tell you that obviously the whole structure is based on decimating spending and tax cuts to benefit the 1%.

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Stocks have been rising as investment is going into assets rather than investment in growth. Its a shelter for money not a reflection of economic optimism.

Our stock market has risen for thr same reason. We have a zombie economy.

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Originally Posted by Colr

Stocks have been rising as investment is going into assets rather than investment in growth. Its a shelter for money not a reflection of economic optimism.

Our stock market has risen for thr same reason. We have a zombie economy.

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Well of course I agree with that. And there is a general problem with how 'economics' is reported, its commonly defined as how it effects very rich people solely.

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Well of course I agree with that. And there is a general problem with how 'economics' is reported, its commonly defined as how it effects very rich people solely.

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I totally agree that there is a problem how 'economics' is reported.

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Originally Posted by Colr

Stocks have been rising as investment is going into assets rather than investment in growth. Its a shelter for money not a reflection of economic optimism.

Our stock market has risen for thr same reason. We have a zombie economy.

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It's like our zombie football league. We all have to watch dead clubs walking about and pretend they are alive. :greengrin

Stocks and bonds will crater at the same time. The 90% of financial advisers who know the square root of rock all will continue to sell wealth management like vacuum cleaner salesmen but knowing less about their trade.

Hunker down.

ETF's are hilarious. QQQ 75% in FAANGs (read it up). Diversified? :faf::faf::faf: Oh, and a wee side note. Amazon is a retail company? It makes the bulk of profits from cloud services. IT is weighted too high. Illegal? Yes. When did that matter.

Wizard of Oz.

Bonds, Stocks and real estate are going to crater at some point. No rush, but don't put all your eggs into one heavily bought and paid for establishment advisory (where you buy the bonds and stocks about to crash - see 2008 -:greengrin).

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Originally Posted by GreenLake

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It's like our zombie football league. We all have to watch dead clubs walking about and pretend they are alive. :greengrin

Stocks and bonds will crater at the same time. The 90% of financial advisers who know the square root of rock all will continue to sell wealth management like vacuum cleaner salesmen but knowing less about their trade.

Hunker down.

ETF's are hilarious. QQQ 75% in FAANGs (read it up). Diversified? :faf::faf::faf: Oh, and a wee side note. Amazon is a retail company? It makes the bulk of profits from cloud services. IT is weighted too high. Illegal? Yes. When did that matter.

Wizard of Oz.

Bonds, Stocks and real estate are going to crater at some point. No rush, but don't put all your eggs into one heavily bought and paid for establishment advisory (where you buy the bonds and stocks about to crash - see 2008 -:greengrin).

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QQQ is a Nasdaq tracker and its weighting in the FAANG’s is consequently the same as that index c45%.

And diversification from what? If most of my wealth was tied up in UK residential property (very common when people’s biggest asset tends to be their home) then buying QQQ might work for that.

You can also buy ETF’s that cover completely different asset classes...a precious metal ETF for example. They might be ‘passive’ but that doesn’t mean you are not making active choices when buying one.

Anyhoo I agree on the wealth managers / IFA shout....pretty damn hard to find one that is not just churning out the same old textbook nonsense (Bonds ‘safe’ despite a 30 year bull run!).

As for the ‘zombie’ economy. Well people can’t have it both ways. Put the price of money back where it should be (i.e. positive interest rates) and you will get rid of a lot of the zombies. Yet society seems rather less tolerant to such things these days so we have central bankers printing money and grossly skewing the market dynamics.

Finally you predict a market crash at some point...well sheesh anyone can do that and be right eventually. The fact remains though that over the long term stock investing (with divs reinvested) has proven to be a sound way to generate a return on your capital.