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Originally Posted by One Day Soon
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Hehe bloody prescriptive text. I have amended it.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Triantis has made the decision to try and break into the 1st team at Sunderland. Thats absolutely fine and wish the guy luck but we absolutely cannot wait around with European games looming so let's move on to other targets that have hopefully been identified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
I think he may regret that move personally when hes playing in the Sunderland reserves come end of the window but hes made his choice and I respect that. I'm sure Malky will have learnt his lesson last year re McCowan and im confident Garvan Stewart will have other targets in mind. Hopefully see some movement before the weekend.
I don’t blame him for trying this in my opinion, he might not have made his decision up entirely but I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t give it a shot they’re a premier league club now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage-Patch
Do agree re we need to give a short deadline and move on however.
I'm sure that will be right on the Triantis front. At this stage the key issue for those responsible at the club is when/if to bite the bullet and bring in someone else. We want him to sign right up until the moment he decides not to, but equally the act of bringing someone else in finally ends the possibility of him coming back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
It is a tough call but it does remind me quite a bit of that (army?) saying: a good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow. His prevarication, understandable though that is, may be the strongest indication there is that we should move on for more than one reason.
Always difficult taking any view from the outside. Hibs will be aware of what’s going on and the other options. Always a balance which is why transfers aren’t easy. Given we know how he performs and fits into the team and the club retaining the possibility of bringing him back long term I think would outweigh taking a chance on another target this early. Deadlines and walking away are all great in theory but then we close the door on ourselves that doesn’t necessarily need to be closed.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
The Triantis situation is understandable to a degree but most of the vibes that are coming from his camp are different than they were at the start . It sounds very much like he doesn’t want to comeback now to me which has me wondering why we are still wasting time on this one when maybe theres other good alternatives to him we could lose out on by waiting , not having another striker in at this stage when it’s an area of the team that’s been weakened I find a bit baffling in all . I honestly thought we’d be further down the line on our recruitment at this stage .Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
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Yep, agree with this..Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
We are in pretty good shape with singing strengthening first choice options, and retaining two of our best performers past the end of their contracts. We are light, but 2 more quality signings will put us into a great place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
We need players now for early Europe but not all clubs and players are on our timeline and will have time to consider moves and options as the window progresses.
The weird club world cup early window start has made it feel like we are further through than we are.
Would have loved Triantis and a forward in and ready for the European games, but more worried if we didn't have them ahead of our first league game.
Maybe Triantis will break into the Sunderland 1st team and play loads of games in the Premiership. Who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage-Patch
Given his performances last season you would think his agent has a few options on the table and some more lucrative than the one we have offered. Rumoured to have offers from the Championship and the US. So Triantis can play the long game and see how his Sunderland career pans out. This however, does not align with Hibs ambitions of reaching the latter stages in Europe. If he really wanted to come back, he would have been here by now.
Would we great to have Triantis back. But as the days go on it is less likely as Hibs have to be prepared with a full squad for the European games. Really need to beef up the midfield and up front if we are serious about this.
Yes, good post. Time to move on IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Nectar is going to do what he feels is best for him. Hibs need to what's best for us and with a big European tie coming up it has to be a sign on or move on scenario.
This is what bugs me. Get the squad ready for the league where the stated aim is to qualify for Europe but when Europe actually comes around the squad is always incomplete and lacking in key areas.Quote:
Would have loved Triantis and a forward in and ready for the European games, but more worried if we didn't have them ahead of our first league game.
This is the case for every team, our opponents teams will also be incomplete. In fact every team we play from now up until the window closes will still be doing transfer business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Happened numerous times, but I sense the club is run better these days, we have to learn to be patient.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
But the European opposition are an excellent team, so we must be ready physically and in terms of the team.
Probably missing a triantis and a miko type for me going into a huge game, fingers crossed they shock us and get a couple in very soon.
No chance anyone has the squad complete for a European tie in July. Question for me is whether the squad is in a good enough way to compete. Answer for me, at this stage, is yes. It’s as strong a squad as we’ve had, at this stage, in a long time for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
I think we will have one more in before Midtjylland. Not based on anything other than gut feeling right enough.
Or opponents could be in better shape as their league season starts before our game with them, with ours being later we are not there yet but we have a very good squad in place right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
No it doesn’t have to be that right now. If there’s a chance of still signing him after these games then that’s something that is a benefit for the longer term. We’ve got more players in place now than we have in previous years. Signing him long term would then add to that for future seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Sometimes you have to wait it out.
We are light , especially up front and as much as Boyles done well last season Bowie is our only out in out striker and I would have thought that we would have had a striker signed by now considering our first competitive game isn’t that far off . The Triantis situation as I said I can to a degree understand but the vibes coming from him isn’t of a player that’s wanting to come back and as much as I like him and think he’s a very good player I do think we can replace him with a good quality player . I think it’s beginning to go the same way as McCowan with the same outcome more than likely to happen …Time to move on from this I feel .Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
People won't like to hear this but our odds in us progressing this coming tie with or without Triantis are low. Signing someone else imo won't change that. The round after in the Conference League to me is where I really want to see progres. If we were to somehow go into that game without Triantis or a replacement option then I would incredibly disappointed. But likewise it could be frustrating if we moved on a 2nd/3rd/4th choice option in the coming days only for Triantis to end up moving anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
Do teams usually have their team fully in shape before a league season starts? Not really do they, most are still doing transfer business well up until the end of August.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
From what I can see, our Danish opponents have signed one senior player this summer while 3 have departed. Maybe that’s their squad fully complete and they don’t have any more business to do, I doubt it though.
Hopefully that Chilean guy is 1 of the departedQuote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
He's hardly going to turn up at his parent club and say "I don't want to be here." It's a standard press answer. Things might change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
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We will likely get two games in the Europa league, and that's it, rather we focus on being 100% complete and ready for the first league game to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
No issues the club moving on from Triantis, as long as its dead in the water. Im sure the club dont want to move on and then he comes back to Hearts or Aberdeen on loan, as Sunderland have decided he is surplus. Its a fine balancing act id imagine and not as black/white as some may think.
I actually think the best chance is winning this first tie ( I know that will be hard). If we lose and drop down we are unseeded again and could easily face just as hard a team or worse. If we win the first tie we will actually most likely get a much easier game in the next round of the Europa as we will be seeded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
We will play a minimum of 4 games but with the incentive of a minimum 5mQuote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
Surely qualification to group league takes priority.
So we can qualify for Europe and write it off before it’s started again next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
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Very delicate balancing act.
I get the frustrations of those who want to be in perfect shape for the European game but realistically that’s a big ask. We’re actually in much better shape than we’ve been in the past - dare I mention Malmo, which came off the back of a respectable season prior to that?
We need to balance the short term needs for the Euro game with our long term aspirations. There ARE huge rewards on offer for Euro success but there are also potentially huge rewards on offer if we’re prepared to be patient to the end of the window.
It’s arguably a better problem to have than the problems we’re used to having so I’m a bit more laid back about it than I was going into that game against the Croatian team with McGregor starting when obviously a fair bit past his best.
We’re not going to be playing the goalie coach or starting with untried youngsters. At worst we’ll be starting players who are part of our first team squad and still have a bit on the bench to cover.
Perfect no, good yes, and arguably preferable to throwing someone (assuming not Triantis) in at the deep end who is unfamiliar with how we play.
Agree with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
The best chance we have is to win 2 Europa League ties. Although who we play will not become clearer until the draw for the 3rd round Europa League qualifying round on 21 July. Win these two ties and we get into the play off round. Even if we lose this we fall into the Europa Conference League with 6 games up to Christmas.
If we fall into the Europa Conference League at an earlier stage we will have to win a play-off game against top quality opposition (was Villa last time round) to have games up to Christmas.
I never said that. The squad won't be complete for our early European games, but needs to be ready for the league startQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby