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28-08-2019, 04:27 PM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

There's still enough time for no deal to be stopped. Ultimately I still think it's more likely than not that Brexit won't happen at all.

I also thought that was shaping up as the most likely outcome, but I think Johnson has shifted the direction of travel and if I was betting on it I'd say no deal is very much on the cards now. Whatever anyone's personal opinion of the guy he's night and day compared to May when it comes to commanding an audience. Even in his brief exchanges in Parliament as PM thus far he has absolutely wiped the floor with Corbyn & co and this has been reflected in recent electoral polling.
28-08-2019, 04:28 PM
CloudSquall

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Davidson set to quit. Result.

Oooooofft.

Who is going to be the next darling of the Union?
28-08-2019, 04:30 PM
GlesgaeHibby

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Originally Posted by CloudSquall

Oooooofft.

Who is going to be the next darling of the Union?

Hopefully Annie Wells - truly hopeless MSP.
28-08-2019, 04:32 PM
G B Young

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Davidson set to quit. Result.

That's a bigger boost to the SNP than Brexit if true. She worked wonders to put the Scottish Tories back on the map and they'll struggle to replace her with anyone half as effective I imagine.

I did feel her heart hasn't really been in it though since returning from maternity leave.
28-08-2019, 04:32 PM
Mr Grieves

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Davidson set to quit. Result.

Mundell 'quit'or proper quit quit?
28-08-2019, 04:34 PM
Smartie

It would be glorious if all this nonsense saw her see the error in her ways and join the fight for independence.

I mean - if ever someone's personal work experiences showed exactly why Scotland needs to be independent, it is hers.
28-08-2019, 04:36 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by G B Young

That's a bigger boost to the SNP than Brexit if true. She worked wonders to put the Scottish Tories back on the map and they'll struggle to replace her with anyone half as effective I imagine.

I did feel her heart hasn't really been in it though since returning from maternity leave.

Nonsense about maternity leave.

She has returned to be repeatedly undermined and put in an impossible position by London overlords she totally disagrees with.

Good on her for leaving. I've welcomed someone putting a reasonable case for centre right politics forward, even if I totally disagree with her stance on independence.
28-08-2019, 04:38 PM
CloudSquall

I imagine she has also realised that with recent events the last election was as good as it will ever get for her and she is leaving before the bloodbath that will occur at the next GE when the SNP will go to 45+ seats at least.
28-08-2019, 04:42 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

God, do you find anything else expect a SNP bad agenda?

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i think he's trying to hook a few as per, quite poor at it though

"Glee" is quite funny though
28-08-2019, 04:45 PM
CloudSquall

Would it finally be Murdo Fraser time?

He was the champion of a separate Conservative party in Scotland, ironically independent of the Conservative party in the rUK.
28-08-2019, 04:47 PM
ronaldo7

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

i think he's trying to hook a few as per, quite poor at it though

"Glee" is quite funny though

He was trying to find something which rhymes with GB
28-08-2019, 04:50 PM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by CloudSquall

Would it finally be Murdo Fraser time?

He was the champion of a separate Conservative party in Scotland, ironically independent of the Conservative party in the rUK.

Please god, NOOOOOOOOOO
28-08-2019, 04:52 PM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Look - over there!

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Damn, you got me. 😁
28-08-2019, 04:55 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by G B Young

That's a bigger boost to the SNP than Brexit if true. She worked wonders to put the Scottish Tories back on the map and they'll struggle to replace her with anyone half as effective I imagine.

I did feel her heart hasn't really been in it though since returning from maternity leave.

Probably. Having a baby meant she found out she had a heart.
28-08-2019, 04:57 PM
The Modfather

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Originally Posted by James310

If you look back at the last few hours I have had people clambering for my opinion and those wanting me silenced.

Happy to move on, but if people still keep wanting to have a go I am happy to have a go back at them.

I engaged with you with you but you chose not to respond and give your thoughts. Preferring to get involved in the petty crap with the usual suspects.

No opinion on today’s events (if you’ve now had a chance to read the details)? Would, genuinely, be interesting to hear a Conservatives views on today. What the implications are for the Conservative government. Why it looks like Ruth is on the verge of quitting. Are there potentially any long lasting ramifications of Boris’ actions etc etc
28-08-2019, 04:58 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by G B Young

I also thought that was shaping up as the most likely outcome, but I think Johnson has shifted the direction of travel and if I was betting on it I'd say no deal is very much on the cards now. Whatever anyone's personal opinion of the guy he's night and day compared to May when it comes to commanding an audience. Even in his brief exchanges in Parliament as PM thus far he has absolutely wiped the floor with Corbyn & co and this has been reflected in recent electoral polling.

Some Brexit party has switched back to the Tories but I think that's more to do with Brexiters believing he's "one of their own".

No deal is probably the most likely form of Brexit now, but I think even with today's shenanigans he's still going to need to win a bigger majority to get it through. In a GE scenario I think Labour will have to include a firm commitment to a ref2 in their manifesto and I think if that's in place then, combined with the traditional FPTP big party squeeze, Lab will take a lot of support back off the Libs and Greens. So it'll be more of a straightforward Lab/Remain vs Tory/Leave contest. If Corbyn could be pushed aside I think that'd be a shoo in for L/R, but even with him around I optimistically think we'll at least get another hung parliament.
28-08-2019, 05:01 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Adult conversation is healthy.

Ironic, from the man that calls other posters 'names' and then runs away.

We are all board now, happy to stick to adult conversations if you do, but you and a few others can't help yourselves.
28-08-2019, 05:01 PM
ronaldo7

Wonder who's going to be the next leader of the, Ruth Davidson party. 😂
28-08-2019, 05:01 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by G B Young

That's a bigger boost to the SNP than Brexit if true. She worked wonders to put the Scottish Tories back on the map and they'll struggle to replace her with anyone half as effective I imagine.

I did feel her heart hasn't really been in it though since returning from maternity leave.

I had her down to lead Better Together 2. Not sure who they'll go to now. Wee Jimmy Krankie (the real one) is an ardent Unionist, that would be worth it for lolz. :greengrin
28-08-2019, 05:16 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by G B Young

I also thought that was shaping up as the most likely outcome, but I think Johnson has shifted the direction of travel and if I was betting on it I'd say no deal is very much on the cards now. Whatever anyone's personal opinion of the guy he's night and day compared to May when it comes to commanding an audience. Even in his brief exchanges in Parliament as PM thus far he has absolutely wiped the floor with Corbyn & co and this has been reflected in recent electoral polling.

According to the polls. Boris Johnson has the hard brexit vote, while the other 2/3rds of the UK electorate are severely divided

Not exactly a master stroke.

Jo Swinson has done far more for the hard brexit cause than Boris Johnson.
28-08-2019, 05:17 PM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by James310

Ironic, from the man that calls other posters 'names' and then runs away.

We are all board now, happy to stick to adult conversations if you do, but you and a few others can't help yourselves.

You mean "oink, oink"

Now, answer the Modfather
28-08-2019, 05:18 PM
Fife-Hibee

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Originally Posted by Smartie

It would be glorious if all this nonsense saw her see the error in her ways and join the fight for independence.

I mean - if ever someone's personal work experiences showed exactly why Scotland needs to be independent, it is hers.

Would never happen. Far more likely that shes a fully signed up member of the Union Bears.
28-08-2019, 05:27 PM
Moulin Yarns

I really hope this is the genuine Hugh grant twitter account.

You will not **** with my children’s future. You will not destroy the freedoms my grandfather fought two world wars to defend. **** off you over-promoted rubber bath toy. Britain is revolted by you and you little gang of masturbatory prefects.
28-08-2019, 05:28 PM
lord bunberry

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Davidson set to quit. Result.

We’ve heard that before.
28-08-2019, 05:30 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

You mean "oink, oink"

Now, answer the Modfather

Now, just go away and stop pestering me.
28-08-2019, 05:32 PM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by James310

That's a bit much, calling him a pig.

Oink oink.

Remember this?
28-08-2019, 05:49 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

Wonder who's going to be the next leader of the, Ruth Davidson party. 😂

what's fluffy "i'm going to quit this time, i really really mean it" doing nowadays ?
28-08-2019, 06:20 PM
xyz23jc

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

We’ve heard that before.

Please God... Let it be so! ...I'll never ask you for another thing again! Ba' heidit narcissist! :greengrin

PS. Can't wait to use the term Poundshop Ruth Davidson for her successor! :faf:
28-08-2019, 06:24 PM
allmodcons

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

I engaged with you with you but you chose not to respond and give your thoughts. Preferring to get involved in the petty crap with the usual suspects.

No opinion on today’s events (if you’ve now had a chance to read the details)? Would, genuinely, be interesting to hear a Conservatives views on today. What the implications are for the Conservative government. Why it looks like Ruth is on the verge of quitting. Are there potentially any long lasting ramifications of Boris’ actions etc etc

I doubt you'll get any answers from J310. He's good at asking questions but almost always avoids answering them.

I actually think he may have blocked me but I could be wrong?

PS - IMO Boris must be a big TSC fan 'same old wealth in the same old hands...................................
28-08-2019, 07:08 PM
James310

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Originally Posted by The Modfather

I engaged with you with you but you chose not to respond and give your thoughts. Preferring to get involved in the petty crap with the usual suspects.

No opinion on today’s events (if you’ve now had a chance to read the details)? Would, genuinely, be interesting to hear a Conservatives views on today. What the implications are for the Conservative government. Why it looks like Ruth is on the verge of quitting. Are there potentially any long lasting ramifications of Boris’ actions etc etc

I don't mind you because you reply and ask questions in an adult way, yes I get involved with the petty crap with the usual suspects as I will stand up for myself. I will continue to do that, but I would much rather not get involved in all that nonsense.

You deserve a reply.

I am totally against what seems to be playing out, it's completely undemocratic. I would be in favour of a no confidence vote and run the risk of what that brings, assuming the government is defeated. If that's a Labour and SNP coalition then so be it. That's the gamble Boris and his chums have decided to take.

As for Ruth Davidson then I am not surprised she is likely to quit. She has been against no deal and against Boris, today was probably the final straw. I know myself when you have children your priorities change and she will be no different, if she feels that way then I think that's a reasonable position to take. I don't get all the hate towards her though.

I am happy to engage with those that want to in an adult way, or we can keep the petty crap going as well. Funny I see another post saying I don't answer questions, would love that poster to point out a handful I have missed? Serious ones I mean.

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