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'A generation that can't remember Reagan need to realise that he was seen as an extremely right wing turn away from traditional conservativism. But the normalisation of Reaganism has allowed Trumpism to be born. Think what happens in the future if Trump is normalised.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Frightening!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The one re-Thatcher and making a UK version, maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
She never made such inspirational, inclusive speeches, as hollow as it was from Ron.
https://www.waterstones.com/book/the.../9780434023264Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
This is lying next to my bed, and is top of my "to read" list.
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Blimey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Oh FFS
BBC News - Roger Stone: Trump commutes ex-adviser's sentence
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53371756
This from a president who continually tweets LAW AND ORDER. Again, beyond parody.Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
If he's willing to commute this sentence now, how many pardons will he give to his friends and associates at the end of his term?Quote:
Originally Posted by wpj
US justice. Free to those who can afford it. Expensive to those who cant. #apologiestoWithnail&IQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
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Originally Posted by Smartie
Thanks for that, just bought the Kindle version
I desperately hope a prosecutor out there has an indictment ready to go the day he leaves office (hopefully on November).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
I have real fears about how much he's going to cheat to win this election.
Some political commentators in the US reckon Trump and his personal lawyer/attorney general are putting the pieces in place to dispute Novembers results and steal another term, even if Biden wins by a landslide. It’s a very real prospect.
There is absolutely no danger Trump will go quietly.
I’m going to predict he won’t and he will in that order to your suppositions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgo
There are far too many legal protections to stop him stealing anything. He has little or no support in the justiciary now, same for the military and his own party. All before mentioning the power of the people if and when such a thing comes to pass. But basically, in my opinion, he simply doesn’t have the power base to even try.
And when he sees the size of his defeat he’ll disappear faster than you could imagine possible to hopefully spend the rest of days on a golf course while spending his ill gotten gains fighting a jail term for the multitude of charges that will repeatedly be heading his way....before one finally sticks and he himself end up being the one suffering the ‘lock him up’ chants.
I really hope you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Think that is why a lot of Muellers cases got handed to state prosecutors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
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I hope when he comes to Scotland to play golf, we make his life a misery.
In the words of Janey Godley, Trump's a ****Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
Darwin Award nominations for Trump voters
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Originally Posted by Higgo
Will he take the case to the Courts or the SFA?
I predict a claim for Eight Billion Dollars in damages if he does lose the election, plus the subsequent legal proceedings.
Maybe he’ll demand that they change the rules so that there can be more presidents for a while? Nobody should have to suffer a disproportionate impact following an election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Where do we donate[emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
If hate and self interest was a disease.....
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... the end of a beautiful friendship
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I see he has also turned on the CDC as well.. both the CDC and WHO are all liars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
I have a vague recollection of a poster or two on here who had voted for Trump and I think we’re going to vote for him again. I can’t remember their names, but if it was you, do you still plan on voting that way?
The first 3 years of his presidency went as I expected - badly, but nothing necessarily earth shatteringly bad. But the 6 months or so have been utterly mental and more along the lines of what others probably thought he was going to be like the whole time.
Trump is a far better president than Joe biden.... the man's cognitively impaired and can barely string a sentence together. One quote from him was "poor kids are just as clever as white kids"
Or you can watch one of his speeches in delaware where he starts blabbing about a bad dude called cornpop and putting straight razors in water barrels to make them rusty. Then moves on to say something about roaches and loving kids on his lap....it was like 3 different a stories in one..america is a mess
I haven't seen a lot of Biden since he got the nomination and, in some ways, I wish the Dems had picked a different candidate. However, there is well documented evidence of Trump struggling in the same way as you've suggested Biden has been.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Trump is not fit for office in more ways than one.
I think they are both deteriorating mentally but one of them is a decent human being.
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Is that example really evidence that Trump is a 'far better President' than Biden would be?Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
It suggests Biden may be unfit for office. In Trumps case that has already been proven beyond dispute with multiple examples in the last 3 months alone.
You criticise Biden’s cognitive skills. Your post shows a lack of grammar, lack of capitalisation, lack of time narrative (you can’t say Trump is a far better president than Biden, because Biden has never been president).Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Three different stories in one, I think you might be right. The problem is your three are a bit dodgy to say the least.
Said it before. will say it again.
If NYC comes out of the pandemic in a relatively healthy state then there is going to be a lot of pressure on Andrew Cuomo the NY state governor, to be a write-in for the Democratic Convention and stand from the floor. If I was Biden it might be preferable to stand back, take the elder stateman’s role.
That allows Julian Castro, Kamala Harris or Beto O’Rourke in as relatively young VPs who can also carry key states and key demographics. Crude, but that is politics, or rather, that is elections.
No offence but your post is a jumbled up mess. If you are going to criticise someone’s cognitive impairment at least made an effort to make a lucid argument in relation to it. Your contribution is a disaster area.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
I can just as easily instantly source at least 20 briefings/interviews with Trump over the last 3 months alone, when he jumps from story to story, lie, to lie, contradiction to contradiction. Undeniable evidence of a cognitive impairment.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
What worries me, is a lot of American citizen's agree with your view, which is of course, their right.
Trump is not fit for the position of POTUS and the world is a far more dangerous place while he remains in the job.
Echo the other OP who would like to see the New York Governor as the Democrat candidate for POTUS.
Biden would be a marginally better president than Trump.
What is infuriating is he has flatly refused each and any compromise request from former Sanders voters (universal health care, free tuition) and expects them to vote for him anyway. If I was American, I would seriously think about voting third party.
I think there is zero chance of this. For starters, whilst Biden is far from perfect, all his dirty laundry is (presumably) out in public already given his prior VP role and the extensive vetting of candidates this time round. The American public knows what it's getting - good and bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
The perception in some quarters is that Cuomo has done well on a single incident (not even a single issue) but his name recognition isn't close to Biden or Trump. The Democrats would effectively be starting from scratch policy-wise with a candidate who hasn't been vetted at this level.
Biden holds a comfortable poll lead over Trump. As long as that holds, there's too much to lose and too little to gain for the Democrats to do anything other than a coronation at their convention. I also think there isn't a chance of the party machine - including donors and interest groups - allowing Biden to step aside now even if he wanted to...which he won't.
Vote 3rd party, get Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Even if that third party was Kanye?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
That's because I'm posting a comment on hibs.net and couldn't give a **** about the grammar... im not writing to the queen..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
Not how triangulation works. He has to take potential Trump voters, the farther to the left will vote for him anyway - because Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Anyway, Biden is romping this atm. Not just in the national polls, in the battleground states as well. Even normally GOP strongholds like Texas are in play. It would be a historically unmatched turnaround for Trump to win from here.
Why would they do that now with Biden miles ahead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
[QUOTE=Higgo;6235041]No offence but your post is a jumbled up mess. If you are going to criticise someone’s cognitive impairment at least made an effort to make a lucid argument in relation to it. Your contribution is a disaster
Its not a jumbled up mess at all its just a quick post on hibs.net You just saw someone else criticise me then jumped on the bandwagon..
That's the spirit. Take a bit of care for The Queen, but don't bother for hibs.netters. What with her having blue blood and that.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Also the democrat convention this year will be a virtual convention. There will be little room for wheeling and dealing. It will be a rubber stamp affair.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
The pandemic is perfect for Biden. It means a lot less campaigning, no rally’s night after night. He has to get through three debates and walk round a few factories without mishap and the job is his.
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:agree: The Ralph Nader effect. Vote Ralph, get George W. How was that a sensible vote for protecting the environment? :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Ordinarily I’d say it was the responsibility of the Democratic Party to actually engage with working class Americans who have felt ignored by them in recent elections and have abandoned their traditional party, opting for populism as a result (sound familiar?). In reality though, the Democrat lead is now so big across a range of key states that only a disruptive 3rd party entrant or Biden doing something unconscionable will turn the tide. There’s no chance the DP will make any changes to the candidature at this point.
I agree and disagree. I think Cuomo has massive name recognition and has the factor that his father was a key figure in the Democratic Party and was always expected to run himself. There is a machine within the machine that would support Cuomo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
On the other hand Biden has the recognition of having been VP. He swings black votes massively, given he is from a very different demographic.
He is no youngster though, and has had his health concerns. I think he can seal the deal at the convention but I also think that Cuomo could potentially win a floor vote. Caution was what stopped his father challenging Clinton. There is something Shakespearean in all this!
Take your point about vetting but also note that Cuomo will have been scrutinised to the nth degree already and Biden has faced allegations, albeit lame, over the last few months
​Sadly for you it WAS a jumbled up mess and you were rightly called out for it, that happens when you make a **** of yourself, a bit like Trump does on an almost daily basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
This forum is a lot nicer for everyone without personal insults. Play nice, folks.
So if i use stars instead of actual words would that have been OK....Quote:
Originally Posted by HNA1
I do love a Beef
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
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Trump heading the way of Pinochet.
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Federal militarised police vs redneck local cops. It’s like Mississippi Burning all over again, except the feds are now the bad guys 40 years on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Not really related to trump but to do with militarisation, this video clip is the Jalisco drug cartel soldiers in Mexico. Frightening level of armoury they have.
https://twitter.com/hdemauleon/statu...330066432?s=21
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Trump's pardoned mate
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/nypos...interview/amp/
I'm pretty sure polls were saying similar in 2016 and we all know how that went.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
The commentary I have read has suggested the polls were quite different (significantly tighter) at this stage in 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Also the incumbent was not running while also rather incompetently (not) dealing with a killer virus, a sinking economy and substantial racial tension.
Polls in 2016 were nothing like they are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
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This is one example of how his predecessor dealt with substantial racial tension, after the Charleston shootings. You simply can’t see how Trump would ever behave like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Edit - better clip because of his preface about’reservoirs of goodness’ but the acoustics aren’t as good. But you still get the sentiment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S58k3ZXRJJc
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Wow. If that comes to pass it must be up there in the record books in terms of scale of defeats no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Trump likes his records tho so maybe he’ll still claim it was the best ever [emoji23]
I am cautiously optimistic. Reagan owns it in recent decades in my opinion. He wiped the floor with Carter and then Mondale in the scale of electoral college votes..Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Walter Mondale....has forgotten about him! Just had a quick google on that election result. Jeezus talk about a landslide!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
I am friends with someone who went over to work on his campaign and he desribes Walter as a good guy and a nice guy. Also, the first time a woman was on the ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Height of the Cold War though and the Dems never stood a chance.
One day a comprehensive biography of Trump will be written, detailing his entire life of perfidy (step forward David Cay Johnston) when all who support him now will no doubt distance themselves and plead ignorance. There is no such defence, given the countless warnings provided. There is no need for hindsight here; Trump's nefarious existence is known to the world. I only hope he represents the end of all that is pernicious in America, in a final act of desperate defiance, and not the beginning of a darker chapter. One can't help but feel it could go either way; we can only hope his plea to ignorance and intolerance is a manifestation of the death knell of his ilk. Yes, hate is a strong word, but I truly hate Trump and his demagoguery.
Almost unbelievable he would say that. Totally believable he would lie about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
P.S. Minor distinction in this context but Stone wasn't pardoned, he just had his sentence commuted, which he himself seems to have forgotten already.
Nobody going to mention that Kanye West speech!?
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Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
I was just about to. The guy's totally off his rocker!
I wonder where he's going to get the $1M for every new mother.
Apparently that's his answer to 'solving' abortion.
Yup totally lost the plot.... that speech was just nuts. I still think trumps a better candidate than West or biden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Hope West runs and does really well, splits the lunatic vote and allows someone who's not completely ******* nuts into the White House.Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
Let’s put the Kanye nonsense to the side, that’s just not going to happen. End of.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Lets make this clear however, Trump is an abomination of a human being. A failed businessman propped up by daddys fortunes, a snake oil salesman, a fraud, a racist, a rampant unashamed liar, a misogynist, a terrible statesman/politician and a serial adulterer. A man who has abandoned any form of strategy against the current pandemic in favour of promoting conspiracy theories and stoking up racial tensions, among other things. He is a shambles, his recent Fox News interview is as big a tv car crash as you’ll ever see. The man has the thinnest skin ever, a total and utter child.
Biden isn’t perfect but to say Trump is a better candidate is absolutely ******ing mental. 🤪
Is it his racism , prejudice, lies , misogyny, sexual attacks, record unemployment, lack of coherent response on Covid-19, abysmal international relationships or his brutality against the BLM protesters that draw that conclusion for you ??Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
That hasn't worked on here. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
The scenes in Portland are horrific, and yet he's planning to send more troops into other cities to do similar.
I hope he's removed via a democratic process, but if other mechanisms were to transpire that ended his political career, I'd maybe open a nice single malt to observe the end of an era.
Its probably because of the previous protests that this is happening or is violence, murder, looting destruction of property the list goes on acceptableQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Camouflaged military grabbing people of the street without identifying themselves? Your ok with that? If you are then it not worth engaging with you any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
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I dont think they would be grabbing random people for no reason. Its more likely intelligence lead apprehensions. They will have trawlled through hours and hours of footage and photos and used under cover officers. ....sadly i don't think we will get the full truthQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Do you have any evidence whatsoever for that assessment?Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Do you have any evidence to say otherwiseQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Nope, the intelligence you mention is the people lifted we’re wearing black and out and about late in Portland.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
Neither, last time I checked, is illegal.
Have a read of this, https://www.facebook.com/1186666567/...787081639/?d=n
Shocking stuff.
J
Several "dictatorships" begin with a general acceptance of this behaviour and it seldom ends well.Quote:
Originally Posted by EAZY-ME
They are identified, they have patches on their uniforms identifying them as Homeland Security.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
With the name and number of the officer?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
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Why are we suddenly being targeted by pro-Trump posters from the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
Because everyone’s entitled to their opinion, even if it differs from yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I think it would be unusual to have that info on a patch, but truth is I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Should do at all times.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
Even soldiers have their name patch.
Is there a problem with Officers of the Law being identifiable?
I’d have thought that’s a key tenet of accountability. They work for the taxpayer remember.
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I don't think this thread is being targeted and I am not from the US. Also I am not so much pro Trump as anti what he is up against. Although the content is hugely anti Trump the thread title is President Donald Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
No don't have a problem with any of that. As I said I would not have thought that much info was on a patch on a uniform. I thought soldiers had dog tags to identify them and police officers have a badge which they produce if asked. Are you saying that officers wear a patch that identifies the individual as well as who they work for ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Don't your YouTube videos explain all this?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
Lots of info on youtube but I thought that was common knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
What Trump mostly seems to be up against is the truth, and facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
Don’t see why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeedc
I’m officer Bristolhibby of the Avon & Somerset Police.
Badge number on my uniform is HIB-23.
Instead we have murky “Federal Agents” who work for a “Federal Agency” with a mish-mash of combat uniforms. No ID, no identification of who they are or their jurisdiction. Lifting people off the streets of Portland, Oregon.
Off Federal property, what rights of arrest have they got? If I were the Oregon Governor or the Portland Mayor I’d be telling them to wind their necks in and stick to the Federal buildings and property.
J
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/...871663617?s=21
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https://www.liberties.eu/en/news/pol...is-spain/14092
Good article here on why Police should always be identifiable.
It’s important for accountability. I remember the police were criticised for covering their collar numbers during the miners strike riots.
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I refuse to believe that 3 Hibs supporters could also support Donald Trump.
What does one have to do with the other?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
What I take from it is - as Hibs fans we are all steeped in the culture of Scottish football. We all know what cultural bigotry looks like, and the morons who propagate it, as it's on display in the visitors end a few times a season. Why then, would any of us want someone who is an expert in propagating cultural bigotry in the most powerful office in the world.Quote:
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Thank you 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato