KT has been training up north for a few weeks... Or so I've been told... Not at EM but with EOS teamQuote:
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KT has been training up north for a few weeks... Or so I've been told... Not at EM but with EOS teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
He haw to do with me! ..a couple of the guys in the office.....one a st johnstone fan and in fact the only st johnstone fan ive ever met said they saw him there on wednesday
Zemmama. ;)
Could be something in the Beattie rumor. On Monday one if the Hearts trainers that comes into David Lloyds with the Hearts team regularly, was in.
We were chatting away (hes a Hibs fan so thats why we chat haha) and I asked him about the Beattie to Hibs rumor. His reply was a smile followed by 'all I'm going to say is that hes still in Edinburgh and looking for a team' and with a smile walked away.
Who knows, just passing it on, could be nothing and a load of rubbish but then again could be a go ahead..
Beattie is a decent player no doubt, but if we are going to have a fairly thin squad up front I am not to sure if someone so injury prone is the answer. A fit Craig Beattie could get a better club than hibs so it makes me think his injury problems are a little more significant.
On another note heard today that Wotherspoon was going out on loan, I have heard that one before so not too sure how realiable.
Wotherspoon's not going on loan.
He's looking forward to the new season at Hibs.
Are people going to cut any new signings a bit more slack if they're not the exciting names we were hoping for?
We wanted the huns out, we got them out, now we need to live with the reality of the situation that our already smaller budget will likely be cut further so players we previously turned our nose up at might now have to become targets. I'm thinking of the reaction from some to Kerr and Maybury training with us, IMO these are the sort of guys we may have to start going for as it'll be even harder to compete with lower league English sides.
The two things are not related, all clubs are in this situation. If the team give 100% and punch its weight, and are not outplayed by clubs spending half of what we do, that will be a start.
If they continue to play like a sunday league side, they will be criticised, and rightly so.
It's maybe cos i had a few beers too many last night but i don't follow what you mean?
I'm talking about peoples opinion on so called 'underwhelming signings' when they sign, not after a few games, i realise it's all relative and other teams will likely be worse than last year as well, thats my point (i think), players who we might previously have thought not good enough might now actually be good enough as other teams will be weaker as well.
Stating the obvious, but we need to bring in several more players to make a sustained/realistic challenge for second/third place. Griffiths, Deano, Riordan... look at these guys please!
What about casting our net further than ex-players?
I'd be interested to see if there was any value in players from poorer countries where a move to Scotland would be appealing, got to think there must be a few Greek players for example out there that aren't getting paid or concerned about earning a decent wage as a footballer over there.
Maybe i picked you up wrong, i agree any new players should be given a chance. No player should be berated during the games.
We have been crap, and yes this rangers fiasco has taken over the minds of scottish football fans, but hopefully thats over now and we can get back to concentrating on Hibs.
When the teams bad, we talk about that. When they are good, some of us are happy. This team need to start punching their weight, they need to start performing better, much better than they have been doing.
If they dont, then they will get stick, thats the name of the game now. The Hibs support have had enough crap, and voted with their feet over the last couple of seasons, that was bugger all to do with the Rangers situation.
We are all in this mess, but there's no reason at all why we should be at the bottom of this mess, other than bad management from the top.
Its time for them to lead us out of this mess, if they dont the result will be more folk walking away.
Byron Moore signs a new contract with Crewe.
Michalik turns us down it seems
Has he signed for someone else?
I notice the Sun reporting that ex Dundee Utd full back Michael Kovacevic has joined Ross County for a weeks trial. I'd be happy if we made a move for him. Can also play centre back, proven in SPL, within our budget, much better option than Maybury IMO.
I'm not bothered about this one, everything i read about him from previous clubs said he was pish so there were alarm bells ringing.
Ideally i wanted a new defensive partner for Mcpake but if the budget is going to be much reduced i'd rather we stuck with what we've got defensively and brought in another midfielder, winger or forward
Understand what you are saying but , hasn,t that been a bit of a downfall for us in recent seasons, signing a player for a certain position and then trying to play him somewhere else thereby having a player giving a sub-standard performance througfh no fault of his own as the position is alien to him. Clancy was bought for r/b, has stated himself he likes/plays better there so, imo, keep him there and turn our attention for another c/b elsewhere.
:greengrin
Yip, we need to judge just how strong we are defensively in a few weeks time, when all the comings and goings have been done, or after i have seen the team on Wednesday. :wink:
A back 4 of Clancy McPake Hanlon and Maybury does not fill me with much hope if i'm honest, especially with what we have in front of them. We are well short of quality, even from what we had at the end of last season imo.
Kenny Shiels saying Dean is training and nearly ready to play - but not for Killie-
Killie have no money ,so cant sign any players :cb
Petrie ,, get it sorted :agree:
ggtth
Looks like Fenlon would like to offer Maybury a deal but is not sure yet if Hibs can afford to as the financial impact of the Rangers situation will reduce his budget and likely lead to him bringing in 2 fewer players than he would have liked.
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/h...-alan-maybury/
Pat Fenlon still hopes to be in a position to offer Alan Maybury a deal to stay at Hibernian but concedes he can’t offer the defender any guarantees.
Former Hearts player Maybury is a free agent after leaving St Johnstone at the end of last season. The 33-year-old has been training with the Easter Road side in pre-season and featured in the second half of the club’s 2-0 friendly win over East Fife. Hibs boss Fenlon says the financial impact of Rangers being in Division Three will reduce his budget, meaning he will bring in two fewer players than he would have liked.
Speaking to Hibernian TV he said: "We have had Alan in training for a week.
"He's a great professional and a very, very good player. He's probably someone we could do with around the place.
"Whether we are able to do it at the moment, I'm not too sure with the way things are. So we'll just have to wait and see."
Is it greedy and or realistic to want Maybury, Deano, another striker and another midfielder?!
Would like to see David Stephens played in the midfield. Big, strong and pretty decent with the ball at his feet. We could mature him into that role.
It is rather scary that we we STILL have not addressed our issues with width. We still have no wingers or guys who can take somebody on. I am not excited at all about starting the season. Aberdeen sorted this out by signing two wingers, they will be strong all be it without fyvie now. Us on the other hand have *****ed all our budget on one player. Hearts, despite losing players still look strong with a good front three of Sutton, driver and templeton. We still are persisting with mostly the same clowns who got pumped by hearts, summer of change??? Not really!!!
Reality has changed, if folk are going to throw hissy fits if we don't sign another 4 players, then we might as well not bother!
How many times in the last few years have we tried to bring in a ton of players all at once, and how often has it worked? I've got a lot of time for Pat and I think he is going about this the right way; sorting out our obvious problems from last season one by one, we have a much stronger defence already, and we've added some creativity to the midfield. If we don't manage to get much else in in this window then so be it, I'd rather we get the right players in, be that now or January, than quickly add in a load of last minute stop gaps, and with the financial reality what it is, that seems unlikely anyway.
A striker and a winger would probably do as further signings. Perhaps adding Maybury with a last minute 'take it or leave it' deal. I'm happy to have the young guys as back up to Williams, We have Booth, Smith, Hanlon and Kujabi who can all play Left Back, I wonder if Booth could be tasked as a left winger. The young guys and Doyle will do upfront alongside a new man. It's going to be a case of leaning on the youngsters and who we already had alongside the new guys.
I know this is from Hibs football rumours page but I would so love this to be true. :aok:
16 Jul 2012 11:11:39
Gary Twigg, Dean Shiels & leigh Griffiths will join before the start of the season. Alan Maybury will sign if Pat can move on Sean O'Hanlon.
Just about where I am too.
I'd love to see a pacy winger though or at least one that can use some ability to go past people. An experienced striker is also a must. I'm also not sure i'd rely on kinds as goalkeeping back up.
However, if that's our lot then fine, as you say, if we can do the same sort of job each window for the next wee while then that will do.
It'll take a while to turn over the guys we don't want and to get the kids up to speed.
It's the current reality though and to be fair, most people seem pretty open in accepting that now which is refreshing.
We've let 15 players go, some high earners, including two good goalscorers. There isn't the same type of demands to replace all of these guys with better players than there would usually be.
good to see young scott taggart get himself fixed up with morton
Given that expectations need to be realistic, I'd like to be able to see Hibs line up like this at Elsie Tanner's Dice:
Williams
Clancy
McPake
Hanlon
Maybury
Sproule
Osbourne
Crusher Mc*********
Cairney
Griffiths
Caldwell
:agree: Last window we needed players - any players, almost - to make up a team that would give us a fighting chance of staying up. I don't think Pat got the players he really wanted; I think he had to make do with what was available, and some of those, by definition, were players who were less than vital to their own clubs, players whom their own clubs were looking to move on. Not the top of the market, in other words. And even when we got a decent player, the odds were that he wouldn't be very deeply committed to the cause of Hibernian FC. (I'm thinking of Claros, Soares and Doherty here - I don't doubt their ability; I'd just have liked to see them play once in a while.)
Two other thoughts.
First, now that we finally know who's playing where and when, there's a possibility that certain SPL players may become available between now and the end of the window. If I understand the situation correctly, while Hibs are certainly going to be strapped for cash, others may well be a lot more strapped for cash and we MAY be able to take advantage of this. So Pat's caution amy yet pay us a dividend.
Second, I agree totally with you about him. I met him face-to-face last week for the first time, and he impressed me as a man who knows what he's trying to do. The only way young players progress from the youth teams to the reserves to the first team is by playing. Our youngsters ahven't really been given the opportunity to play these last few seasons - most of our multitude of managers have preferred to bring in huddies from the Twilight Zone than give a chance to the kids they've praised so highly to the press. Pat seems to be prepared to do this - maybe we'll find we don't need to sign quite as many new guys as we think?
And Dundee will need SPL-experienced players. Any chance they'd take O'Hanlon and Galbraith? It'd be a huge wrench to lose two such fine professionals, and I know Pat would miss them from the squad, but sacrifices must be made for the long-tern good of the club ....
:wink:
We'll still be well short of a good squad if we're going into the season with Sproule, Osbourne and Kujabi in the first 11 IMO.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ghs-up-options
Would think we could do better?
Ross Forbes is amazing on Football Manager :wink:
I believe Blackpool are looking to loan (or possibly offload) one of their young strikers Craig Sutherland, he's a left sided winger/forward and a Hibs fan. Might well be worth taking a look at:agree: Some might remember this lad playing for Spartans before his family moved to America!
Hibs rumours saying Bbc midlands have Adam Rooney signing but cannae see that in a month of Sundays
Update - never mind a month of Sundays cannae see it on BBC Midlands either !!!!!!!
no doyle in any starting teams?
I like the look of Ross Forbes, I hope we can sign him up.
Unless wikipedia is wrong he's scored 6 goals in over 70 games??
The sky link says he allowed his contract to run out which is different from the STV one which confirmed that Motherwell didnt offer him a new deal and he'd hardly played last season. There were no hard feelings on his part as he understood why he was being released.
Even with Jennings leaving from their midfield there was no deal on the table which doesn't fill me with great hope.
We have a stack of midfield players already so we should be looking to sign better quality than what we have there and this boy isn't in my view.
Despite people being impressed with Maybury on Saturday I have the same view about him and Kerr.
Before anyone starts moaning about the type of player we can attract on our wages etc etc, there are definitely better players available within budget - other SPL teams sign them for less - and its up to Fenlon to identify them.....and then the board to sign them.
I don't expect 8 new arrivals on 2k a week or more but the three names I mention fall short of what we need.
Based on the transfer activity of other SPL clubs this pre season - and no Huns - there's a great chance to improve massively from the last two seasons so lets take it.
I should have clarified, I meant that he looked a real prospect and scored a lot of goals in the early part of the season when Motherwell were managed by Jim Gannon. I can count 8 here, incidentally: -
Match
DayDate Opponent H/A Score[28] Motherwell scorer(s)[29] League
Position[30]Attendance Report 1 15 August 2009 St. Johnstone A 2–2 Hutchinson (55), Forbes (65) 5 5,220 BBC Sport 2 22 August 2009 Kilmarnock H 3–1 Sutton (14), Forbes (45) (pen.), Hutchinson (68) 3 5,093 BBC Sport 3 29 August 2009 Aberdeen A 0–0 5 11,320 BBC Sport 4 12 September 2009 Rangers H 0–0 5 9,355 BBC Sport 5 19 September 2009 Dundee United A 1–0 Forbes (65) 4 7,196 BBC Sport 6 26 September 2009 Hibernian H 1–3 Reynolds (35) 6 5,221 BBC Sport 7 3 October 2009 Falkirk H 1–0 Jutkiewicz (18) 5 4,337 BBC Sport 8 17 October 2009 Celtic A 0–0 5 58,000 BBC Sport 9 24 October 2009 St. Mirren A 3–3 Forbes (49) (pen.), Jutkiewicz (74, 81) 5 4,327 BBC Sport 10 31 October 2009 Hearts H 1–0 Forbes (55) 4 4,830 BBC Sport
UEFA Europa League
Main article: UEFA Europa League 2009–10
23 July 2009 SQR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...lbania.svg.png Flamurtari Vlorė H 8–1 Murphy (16, 19, 34) Slane (25) Forbes (pen 28, 50) Shaun Hutchinson (37) McHugh (72) 4,641 BBC Sport 30 July 2009 TQR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...omania.svg.png Steaua Bucharest A 0–3 25,000 BBC Sport 6 August 2009 TQR http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...omania.svg.png Steaua Bucharest H 1–3 Forbes (17) 4,975 BBC Sport
I'm happy for us to have a look at him, if indeed that's what's happening.
16 games for Blackpool and Plymouth and no goals - is he a winger as opposed to centre forward?
Plymouth in bottom league of English football opted not to extend his loan deal beyond the few months and he didn't seem to play anywhere else after that at end of last season.
Not for me thanks.
Gary Twigg - Wikipedia made me chuckle..
In 2011, he was again Rovers' top league goalscorer with 15 goals, helping the club to another title, their 17th. Twigg also played in the Shamrock Rovers team that reached the group stages of the Europa League, the first Irish team ever to do so. The highlight of Twigg's season came when he scored an unprecedented four goals against Barcelona in a fierce contest between the sides which saw Shamrock Rovers win 4-3 in dramatic fashion. It is said that the four goals gave everyone a boner, even the girls.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Twigg
If we were short of numbers in midfield then I might agree.
The (unofficial) news that O'Hanlon has been told he can go might well free up a decent wage to help Fenlon if we can get rid. Hopefully there will be interest in him from down south although we might have to make it worth his whileas seems the norm with Hibs and their clear outs of late. Galbraith leaving would also create some space albeit he'll be on a lower wage.
The 4 signings we've made so far seem promising so it would be good to build on that.
I see Kerr is away training elsewhere, Maybury isn't going on tour and Fenlon may get a couple of trialists in while we are over there.
What about getting Scott Robertson who left dundee utd in summer but hasn't got a new club yet? Scores a few goals and better than what we have at the moment.