The whole football situation is brutal.
NHS workers what they are doing just now and for how much.
Then footballers.
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The whole football situation is brutal.
NHS workers what they are doing just now and for how much.
Then footballers.
Our players have been furloughed as well. It’s in the statement released by the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
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Remember, no actually having a financial advantage doesn’t stop them spending money. They just spend it on the things they want to spend it on as opposed to paying their bills.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
This is where iam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
f they dont receive a transfer embargo or some other type of punishment, I might chuck the toys our of the pram and be done with football for a while (after buying my season ticket fwiw)..
As will every club that is doing so (including Hibs who have confirmed this) but calling it an advantage is like saying throwing a drowning person a life belt is an advantage when not having fallen overboard, worn a life jacket or having learned to swim would have been the advantage. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zambernardi1875
The statement I read said the staff had been furloughed but the players were taking a wage cut? Sorry wage deferral!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The players are staff :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Read it again, it's pretty clear. The only non-furloughed staff are a "core group."
We kind of of have said so. We said the majority of 'people' have been furloughedQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a3f8759c53.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
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Hibernian FC today thanked all of its employees – staff and players – after the club reached mutual agreement to furlough the majority of its people following a period of constructive consultation in order to protect jobs and incomes. A core group, including some senior managers, ticket office and communications staff, are continuing to work from home to keep the club’s operations moving forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
Based on the above I’d say the players have been furloughed. They would have been reference amongst those not furloughed if they hadn’t been.
Club can still pay over and above the £2,500 they will receive for them so still possible to defer part of the wage as well.
Well you obviously have a knack for reading these things but it certainly didn’t read to me the players had been furloughed. Not disagreeing just saying 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I did have to read it a couple of times, tbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
So, we agreed.... we're getting Government cash for our players? :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Make sense of this if you can. I can’t!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52160117
Much like their new main stand, appointment of sporting directors and signing policy, Budge is rudderless and adrift but still demanding to be addressed as captain.
What happened to the league clause allowing them to tear up contracts or suspend pay with a March 30 deadline?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
“Senior staff and players have also agreed to defer a significant percentage of their income. This will help the club manage its finances through this difficult period. The Chairman has said that the club will repay any shortfall in earnings over an agreed period once things return to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
This bit sounded to me that the players were on a deferral not furlough but I agree it can be read the other way too. It isn’t clear that our players are furloughed from that statement, well not to me. 👍
If you say so 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Ann Budge - 18th March 2020 - https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...nt-1-2-3-4-5-6
“We have asked all full-time employees, managers, coaches, players and player back-room staff, with effect from the beginning of April, to accept a 50% cut in their monthly salary”
Ann Budge - 3rd April 2020 - https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...m-our-chairman
“I would like to make it clear that no employee, whether furloughed or working, at any level in the Club has been asked to take a 50% cut.”
What a despicable little organisation.
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Originally Posted by 660
"we would like to make it clear that since the introduction of the Job Retention Scheme,
no player has been asked to take more than a 30 per cent reduction in wage."
So they have actually tried to get players to take a 50% pay cut, until the Government announced the Job Retention Scheme.
After that, they tried to get them to take a 30% pay cut (presumably only because the players had already refused the 50% cut).
The devil is in the details
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I had to re read it also I neverQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
noticed that. That to me indicates the season is over .
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A ****ing lying old hound.Quote:
Originally Posted by 660
Yip classy as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
Lie after lie yet she spouts more every spouts more with every statement.
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Does that mean, in your take, that the players, or some of them. get a basic government furlough payment and have deferred the balance of their pay until better times?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Am i correct in my reading of the statement in concluding that the majority of hearts players & the PFA have not agreed to her revised proposals ?
TBH, I don't know the answer to that. But bear with me.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy Pope
The statement says "Individual arrangements remain confidential, however employees have agreed to defer salaries by between 20 per cent and 50 per cent.".
If some (presumably the higher earners) have deferred 50%, and were "only" getting paid the basic £2,500 per month, that would mean that they were on about £75k pa. £1,400 pw... probably not the case.
In short, I think they will be getting more than the £2,500.
Not really, you can be taken off furlough at any time, it doesn’t have to be a fixed period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenworld
I actually wonder just how much clubs are short? The bonus of a SC semiQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Is just a bonus and there is obviously the away crowds that would have seen a full away end on maybe a couple of occasions. There must be loads of other costs we and others don’t have to pay out though. With only eight games remaining and presuming 50% being at home, it does sound like extreme measures given 80% (pure guess) of our tickets have been sold as ST’s. Obviously if this goes beyond this season then everyone will be in the 💩. Not trying to underestimate the problem but we’ve got around 13,000 already paid in for our remaining home games. A few seasons ago that would have been brilliant .
As a post script, I had tickets for the Grand National tomorrow which I’ve had a full refund, I wouldn’t ask or want a refund for my missed ST games but it makes you think.
The club making up the individual’s deficit on the government furlough payment to another set percentage maybe, then making up the rest later as the deferred part. Sounds like that to me and level thinking from employer and employees.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
So as an employer myself. You pay your furloughed staff member 80% of their wage or 100% if you so wish.
The government gives you back 80%. You actually have to pay the salary for the month though then the government is paying you back at the end of April.
The question is, do hearts have the money to pay the wages until April?
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Originally Posted by Aldo
As usual she is woefully out of her depth.
Has there ever been such a blatant example of undeniable bare faced lying in Scottish Fitba?Quote:
Originally Posted by 660