Shaun Maloney - Style of play

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27-01-2022, 12:35 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

Yip - good point. Some folk are too quick to have an opinion. Especially one they won’t be willing to change.

What do you mean with this?

Nobody on this forum has set out with an anti-Maloney agenda, everyone wants him to succeed.

I find the football boring though, same as I found it boring the last couple of years, even when finishing 3rd. If the football becomes exciting then of course my opinion will change.

Also, being bored or excited by something isn't a voluntary reaction, it just happens, so you can't blame anyone for how they feel!!
27-01-2022, 12:38 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

What do you mean with this?

Nobody on this forum has set out with an anti-Maloney agenda, everyone wants him to succeed.

I find the football boring though, same as I found it boring the last couple of years, even when finishing 3rd. If the football becomes exciting then of course my opinion will change.

Also, being bored or excited by something isn't a voluntary reaction, it just happens, so you can't blame anyone for how they feel!!

Just that folk seem unwilling to change their mind after forming an opinion. That doesn’t mean everyone is the same - I like to think I can change my mind as well.
27-01-2022, 12:38 PM
GreenGray

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

What do you mean with this?

Nobody on this forum has set out with an anti-Maloney agenda, everyone wants him to succeed.

I find the football boring though, same as I found it boring the last couple of years, even when finishing 3rd. If the football becomes exciting then of course my opinion will change.

Also, being bored or excited by something isn't a voluntary reaction, it just happens, so you can't blame anyone for how they feel!!

There is 100% people on this forum who are Anti-Maloney who have barely given him a chance. Seen some outrageous things said about him
27-01-2022, 12:40 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

Just that folk seem unwilling to change their mind after forming an opinion. That doesn’t mean everyone is the same - I like to think I can change my mind as well.

If we are winning and playing well opinions will change.

It's more stubborn the other way - back the manager until sacked then it's all his fault afterall and back the next guy who can do no wrong.

I'll be delighted if Maloney works out. I've seen very little to show he's an improvement though apart from having Belgium assistant on his CV - that doesn't make you a good manager though.
27-01-2022, 12:41 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by GreenGray

There is 100% people on this forum who are Anti-Maloney who have barely given him a chance. Seen some outrageous things said about him

Why on earth would anyone be anti-wanting our manager to do well? :confused:
27-01-2022, 12:46 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

They have a far better team than us now, their recruitment has been pretty sound since RN got the job.

Don't agree with that.
27-01-2022, 12:48 PM
easty

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

They have a far better team than us now, their recruitment has been pretty sound since RN got the job.

Completely disagree.

They have the best keeper in the league, who’s won them plenty of points himself this season. The rest of that teams no better than ours.
27-01-2022, 12:55 PM
Since90+2

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Originally Posted by easty

Completely disagree.

They have the best keeper in the league, who’s won them plenty of points himself this season. The rest of that teams no better than ours.

Yip. Take Gordon out the Hearts team and put them in our side and I'd be pretty confident we'd be at least level pegging with Hearts the now.
27-01-2022, 12:55 PM
superfurryhibby

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Originally Posted by GreenGray

There is 100% people on this forum who are Anti-Maloney who have barely given him a chance. Seen some outrageous things said about him

Dramatic or what, can you quote some of these outrageous posts or are you just trying to stir things up a bit?
27-01-2022, 01:11 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I'll be delighted if Maloney works out. I've seen very little to show he's an improvement though apart from having Belgium assistant on his CV - that doesn't make you a good manager though.

:top marksSums up the situation perfectly.

I've nothing against Maloney, he seems like a nice guy. I don't think he'll be with us long though.
27-01-2022, 01:23 PM
Rumble de Thump

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

If we are winning and playing well opinions will change.

It's more stubborn the other way - back the manager until sacked then it's all his fault afterall and back the next guy who can do no wrong.

I'll be delighted if Maloney works out. I've seen very little to show he's an improvement though apart from having Belgium assistant on his CV - that doesn't make you a good manager though.

The improved performances and results, a few clean sheets and looking far less likely to concede from crosses are a decent start.
27-01-2022, 01:30 PM
J-C

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Why on earth would anyone be anti-wanting our manager to do well? :confused:

The same ones greetin when Ross was sacked, some people put too much emotion into manager's of the club and should just concentrate on supporting the club.
27-01-2022, 01:36 PM
silverhibee

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

To be honest, I felt sorry for Nisbet tonight. Put in a lot of work but rarely got the ball in anything like a remotely threatening area.
If the only chances we are going to create are from crosses it’s probably better we play Doidge up front.

Maloney seems a bit insecure given he felt the need to have a go at Ross and if he is unhappy with fan reaction tonight. He better toughen up if he wants to make it in management.

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1st minute he had great chance to test the goalkeeper, but dithered, I like Nisbet but something just not clicking with him just now, Doidge missed a good chance at end of game, both chances were in very good areas where they should have done better and should have been getting these shots on target.
27-01-2022, 01:40 PM
silverhibee

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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation

No doubt about it. No shots on target against a poor Motherwell side, never posed a threat throughout the game. It was dismal and he must know it.

That’s not true, we did pose a threat, good crosses in to the box and both Nisbet and Doidge should have been hitting the target with there very good chances that they had.
27-01-2022, 01:41 PM
silverhibee

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Is this a poor Motherwell side? They are doing quite well arnt they?

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Above us but according to the managers on here we should be pumping them at there ground.
27-01-2022, 01:42 PM
Sergio sledge

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

Hearts pressing us high up the pitch is the thing that concerns me most about next week.

I think the fact that not many teams in the premiership employ the high press is one of our biggest issues with our style of play to be honest. Most teams sit in and are happy to surrender possession until we get into the final third. At that point when they do start pressing everything is compressed and there isn't enough space for us to work in.

It ends up making us look slow and ponderous and lacking ideas.

If we play against a team that presses high, in theory we should be able to use quick passing to get out of the press and exploit the space up the pitch.

Needs bravery from the players though and a back 3 who can play things calmly under pressure. Having Porteous and Hanlon back should help.
27-01-2022, 01:48 PM
green with envy

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

What do you mean with this?

Nobody on this forum has set out with an anti-Maloney agenda, everyone wants him to succeed.

I find the football boring though, same as I found it boring the last couple of years, even when finishing 3rd. If the football becomes exciting then of course my opinion will change.

Also, being bored or excited by something isn't a voluntary reaction, it just happens, so you can't blame anyone for how they feel!!

Perhaps watching Hibs isn't for you anymore. I've been following Hibs H&A for around 45 years and I'm lucky if I've seen 10 years of exciting football. However, I'll keep being the optimist when it come to Hibs.
27-01-2022, 01:53 PM
easty

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

They have a far better team than us now, their recruitment has been pretty sound since RN got the job.

Completely disagree.

They have the best keeper in the league, who’s won them plenty of points himself this season. The rest of that teams no better than ours.
27-01-2022, 01:57 PM
silverhibee

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

I’m not a Joe Newell but if you were just basing it on the last couple of games then I’d agree, he’s the only one who has really been involved. I hardly noticed JDH last night and Campbell runs a lot but he doesn’t really do anything.

However, on the flip side, the best we’ve looked under Maloney was without Newell playing. Having two of them playing is bad enough but playing all three we got exactly what we were going to get.

I think Maloney will stick with Newell, but once Henderson is fully sharp then he will come in for imo JDH, I think Campbell will get more games to see if he can improve.
27-01-2022, 01:59 PM
GreenCastle

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Originally Posted by easty

Completely disagree.

They have the best keeper in the league, who’s won them plenty of points himself this season. The rest of that teams no better than ours.

There are several players in that Hearts team I would take at Hibs.

Wouldn’t say that a past few seasons but Boyce for example is far more effective than Nisbet / Doidge.

McKay would fit perfect into our system has been one of Hearts best players last few games.

Our crap summer recruitment has put us back 6 months.
27-01-2022, 02:01 PM
Jones28

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

There are several players in that Hearts team I would take at Hibs.

Wouldn’t say that a past few seasons but Boyce for example is far more effective than Nisbet / Doidge.

McKay would fit perfect into our system has been one of Hearts best players last few games.

Our crap summer recruitment has put us back 6 months.

It’s put us back a whole season, and a very important one financially at that. It was no secret how important it was to get third place this year and the summer recruitment right and it was a complete **** up.
27-01-2022, 02:03 PM
GreenCastle

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Originally Posted by Jones28

It’s put us back a whole season, and a very important one financially at that. It was no secret how important it was to get third place this year and the summer recruitment right and it was a complete **** up.

Maybe I was being too kind - it was a mess and even the average punter was asking questions.

No striker added then Doidge gets injured.

I think we got away with it during covid season but at same time missed out on huge opportunity to win silverware as we didn’t bring in depth.
27-01-2022, 02:06 PM
Danderhall Hibs

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Originally Posted by J-C

The same ones greetin when Ross was sacked, some people put too much emotion into manager's of the club and should just concentrate on supporting the club.

Totally agree - there's no point being invested in the manager; he'll be here (and the next one and the next one after that) for max 3 years, more than likely less. Support the team and stop the bickering.
27-01-2022, 02:08 PM
flash

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

They have a far better team than us now, their recruitment has been pretty sound since RN got the job.

We shall see.
27-01-2022, 02:21 PM
GreenGray

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

If we are winning and playing well opinions will change.

It's more stubborn the other way - back the manager until sacked then it's all his fault afterall and back the next guy who can do no wrong.

I'll be delighted if Maloney works out. I've seen very little to show he's an improvement though apart from having Belgium assistant on his CV - that doesn't make you a good manager though.

Nabbed this from Twitter but surely this is an improvement?

JR last 5 games in charge
3pts
No Clean Sheets
3 Goals scored
5 Goals conceded

Maloney first 5 games in charge
7 Points and cup win
3 Clean Sheets
5 goals scored
3 goals conceded
27-01-2022, 02:31 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by green with envy

Perhaps watching Hibs isn't for you anymore. I've been following Hibs H&A for around 45 years and I'm lucky if I've seen 10 years of exciting football. However, I'll keep being the optimist when it come to Hibs.

Ah, yeah, that's it, thanks for helping me out :rolleyes:
27-01-2022, 02:57 PM
The 90+2

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenGray

Nabbed this from Twitter but surely this is an improvement?

JR last 5 games in charge
3pts
No Clean Sheets
3 Goals scored
5 Goals conceded

Maloney first 5 games in charge
7 Points and cup win
3 Clean Sheets
5 goals scored
3 goals conceded

You forgot pumping the champions at hampden in they stats. You also forgot covid and injuries, something Jack was meant to be cut a lot of slack over.
27-01-2022, 02:58 PM
The 90+2

Quote:

Originally Posted by green with envy

Perhaps watching Hibs isn't for you anymore. I've been following Hibs H&A for around 45 years and I'm lucky if I've seen 10 years of exciting football. However, I'll keep being the optimist when it come to Hibs.

That's going to help get the crowds back right enough. :greengrin

Dinnae like it - bolt.

Bolt - the manager gets his jotters.
27-01-2022, 03:00 PM
Heisenberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenGray

Nabbed this from Twitter but surely this is an improvement?

JR last 5 games in charge
3pts
No Clean Sheets
3 Goals scored
5 Goals conceded

Maloney first 5 games in charge
7 Points and cup win
3 Clean Sheets
5 goals scored
3 goals conceded

A very clear improvement. Hopefully keep building on it this weekend.
27-01-2022, 03:02 PM
Stevie Reid

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

You forgot pumping the champions at hampden in they stats. You also forgot covid and injuries, something Jack was meant to be cut a lot of slack over.

The Rangers semi final win was his 6th last game.

Though Ross did take 4 points from his last 5 games, original post said 3 points.

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