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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
and if het got arrested a fine/ban to look forward to, and even if he did get a photo the polis would delete it from his phone :)
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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
and if het got arrested a fine/ban to look forward to, and even if he did get a photo the polis would delete it from his phone :)
Embarrassing Euros x 2, one win in 14 now - has to go. Any other country would take decisive action and punt him and rightly so. Nope, we gave him a contract 😂 that was a 2-1 going on 6-1 tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scottie
All those wanted Clarke emptied, who would you want to replace him? Moyes is the only obvious one to me
Recent record is poor but I’m not sure I’d be wanting him punted
Tonight wasn’t the problem. I thought we did all right. Against them you’re always going to have spells where you are under pressure or whatever but we coped well. The quality of player they have in comparison to us if unbelievable.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Many of the previous 13 games in this 14 game run have been garbage thought.
He reckons he's earned the right to complete his contract.
I agree with him, but he's proving game after game why his 'right' is nothing more than a legacy. We're going backward, and he needs emptied ASAP. Moyes worth a shout, though I'm unconvinced he's streets better if I'm honest.
He hasn’t - it’s a ruthless results business and he’s failed on every level recently. Needs sacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Would you want to keep a manager with that record, especially goals concededQuote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
His team set up means he's totally reliant on goals from midfield. Dykes works his socks off but playing him up front on his own is toothless. Fair enough away to Portugal but home to Poland is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Yup - should have been binned for the terrible performances at the Euros. Stupidest thing they did was offer him a new contract before the tournament.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
It’s not a great record but he’s transformed the national side. My biggest gripe with him is the time it takes him to makes changes during the game however that can be down to the options off the bench not being up to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
If he was to go I wouldn’t be fussed but i don’t see an obvious candidate, bar Moyes, who comes in. He’s got some superb performances out of this side, some bad ones too, however given how poor the last 25 years has been I’d be hesitant to sack a manager who has brought relative success recently
Is that not partly down to the options upfront though? Shankland can’t play that role at international level so dykes is all we have. Not sure we have the players to play open football against similar level teamsQuote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Mentioned on another thread but if Clarke was to go, wonder if promoting Scot Gemmill could be an answer. Has a decent record at Scotland age groups and is now with under 21s. Would help bring the next generation of players through.
One win in fourteen and an absolutely embarrassing Euros when we were bottom of the table on any meaningful statistic - nope, there’s way better managers who would get way better results. Dour, uninspiring football coupled with a bizarre loyalty to utterly mediocre players (many of whom don’t play much for their clubs) - no wonder we get pumped regularly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
I don’t think changing the manager would make much difference tbh, we have no decent centre halfs, goalie and hardly any right backs. We’ve had some bad results recently but we are playing against world class teams.
Changing the manager would make a world of difference- someone who’s brave and bold and build on what we’ve done but plays players who are actually achieving with their clubs would be a great start. Moyes would be an excellent choice and the right one. Can’t stand Clarke personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by HOOJ O45
Which players?Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Agree with that actually think our performances in last two games have been decent. Would stick with him unless someone much better available. Got to be said he must be ruing his luck with the awful goals we have given away in recent games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Yes don't see a stack of players obviously better than the ones playing. McGregor is an obvious loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Cheeky contract offer to Carsley?Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Maybe it's time for a nom Scottish manager again, someone with energy and enthusiasm.
Scotland have conceded 33 goals in 14 games. Luck doesn't have anything to do with that sort of woeful record.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I don't think the team lacked any energy or enthusiasm last night, quality was the difference. That Portuguese team is high quality. Clarke has taken us to 2 euros in a row, something we've failed to achieve in any tournaments for a long time. While our recent record is pretty grim, the step up we've made over the last few years means we are playing against higher level teams and we clearly struggle. I would give him the world cup qualifiers, I think he deserves that chance and I don't really see any obvious replacement at the moment anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
I agree with most of this. We have to remember that a country of our size isn’t going to beat these big sides very often and even what are deemed lesser countries have a much larger pool of players to choose from. Players on the continent still seem to be technically better than many of ours.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
Keep in mind Scotland have never got out of the groups at a tournament and that’s even in the heydays of the 70s and 80s. Expectations need to be tempered
TBH Scotland haven't been half bad the past 2 games, individual errors have cost us, our big problems are we haven't got good enough players in the key positions in defence where it's needed. I take it Porteous is out the picture now and only on the bench since his sending off in the Euros, he's far better than McKenna.
We had a pretty easy Nations League route to the previous Euros (tho nearly contrived to mess that up under McLeish's awful second stint before Clarke salvaged things) which hadn't been available before and tended to obscure the fact we failed again in the qualifiers proper. The great start to the Euro 2024 qualifiers was his high point but I think I'm right in saying we haven't won a competitive game in over a year which, coupled with the fact it's one win in 14 overall (and that was effectively a bounce game v Gibraltar) indicates his race is run.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
His luck as in players making big mistakes. Personally think he has done a decent job especially given we have qualified for two tournaments. No point getting rid of no one better to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
A still of the equaliser doing the rounds that show it arguably should have been ruled out for ronaldo interfering with Gunn's line of sight. Possibly why he got a poor hand to it
Evidence in this break that the players are still putting in a shift for the manager. It's tough at the top and expectations are high so we need to rescue something from this campaign
Under 21s or whatever they've previously been called have not qualified for a finals tournaments in the last 30 years. If they do it this time it might give Gemmill a leg up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
I'm beginning to wonder if Gunn has an eyesight problem. He's very good at reaction saves at close quarters but has let in a number from distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Unfortunately I think he’s just pish. International quality goalkeepers just don’t lose the goals he loses.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
That position looks to be a real problem going forward, with few options or decent prospects coming through who look like they might potentially be the solution.
France v Belgium should be a good game