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The senate, yes, but it also depends what happens with the House of Reps – by my count if every remaining race is won by the current leader then the Republicans would end up with a tiny majority, but it appears close enough that it could still go either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
How easy is it for him to lift all the sanctions on Russia? I can see that happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I’m sure he said he’d end the war this week before he was even inaugurated?
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This thread has been going for over 4 years. And we are right back to square 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
All the rape convictions, insurrections, lies and downright awfulness and here we are.
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No - 55%Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Yes - 45%
2014
Trump never won this election, the Democrats lost it by making the same stupid mistakes as 2016 and expecting different results.
Countless celebrity endorsements when the average American doesn’t give a crap what they think, creating a narrative that people with concerns about immigration and “woke agendas” are racist and bigoted. Maybe in some cases they are those things but when give or take 50%+ of the population share these concerns you can’t act like that.
Furthermore they put Biden forward as their candidate, surely knowing full well his health had deteriorated to a point where he couldn’t lead and parachuted Harris in. She was the vice president for a very tough economic time for many Americans yet failed to acknowledge this or focus her campaign on the economy, which as a few have already said, is your average punters biggest or even only concern.
I don’t blame them at all for not electing her, it’s just really sad that Trump was the alternative.
I said it a week or so ago but the death of statesmanship is really sad to see. Looking at other recent elections both the winner and runner up were good candidates. The previous presidents, plus the runners up, Bob Dole, Al Gore, John Kerry, John McCain, Mitt Romney, all better candidates than what have been on offer on both sides 2016
CBS saying nevada is leaning towards trump, that takes him over the line. How depressing.
It also looks like Trump is going to win the popular vote. I thought he might win the election but I never expected him get the popular vote. Mental.
People are not stupid for voting to make the economy better, they're stupid for thinking Trump will do that. Tearing up trade deals, applying tariffs on imports and building walls has proven to be counterproductive in the past, why should it be any different this time round?Quote:
Originally Posted by jamie_1875
It’s a fairly emphatic victory for him. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I never had much doubt he would win and I’m surprised so many were convinced Harris would, I didn’t expect it to be as emphatic as it appears it’s going to be though.
Americans were left with two really poor choices imo.
The positive spin would be that at least there wont be any Trump-sponsored terrorism.
There will be, it'll just have the full force of the US authorities behind it. Wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Trump wins Wisconsin - and with it the US electionpublished at 10:33
10:33BREAKING
CBS, the BBC's US partner, is projecting that another swing state has gone to Donald Trump - Wisconsin - meaning he has 276 electoral college votes, more than the 270 needed to win the overall race.
As a result,*Trump is now projected to have won the presidency*and will re-enter the White House as America's 47th president.
It's interesting seeing auditoriums full of cheering maniacs in favour of both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Pretty much every American I've met for the past few years has been fairly aghast at the choice that was looking to await them, especially when it looked like it was going to be Biden or Trump again.
They need to get their act together. For all their problems, I still think of America as being great rather than needing to be great again and you'd think that a nation of 320 million or so could do much better to put up credible candidates than they have of late.
There it is, Trump is the 47th president.
Harris will surely concede soon.
Very poor from her not to take the stage at her “victory party” last night onece the result was looking unpromising. Folk have campaigned for you and traveled to see the result come in. At least take the stage for a minute to thank them.
Who would have thought that a criminal could be the president of the US ?
With more serious charges to come. Truly the land of opportunity.
Dow Jones futures up over 1,000 points and heading to record high. Anyone with a 401K plan in the US will be richer. There are about 70M 401Ks held by US citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
It’s US foreign and economic policy that directly affects the U.K. The EU will get hammered with tariffs. It’s up to Starmer to woo the Trumpians otherwise we are truly stuffed outside both the EU and American markets.
As for Ukraine, Putin must be on the voddy after this result. Best hope is a ceasefire and a Korean/ Cypriot style de facto border. No chance the EU and U.K. will give enough funding to Ukraine to continue the war. A 180° from Trump is also possible I suppose. He’s unpredictable.
Americans get what they deserve,Trump will be on the phone with his fellow dictators Putin and Kim jong un,the world is in a darker place today.
Not any more, he's now in charge of the DOJ he will put his own folk in that will drop them and the others will be halted til he is no longer presidentQuote:
Originally Posted by pollution
i think reducing this to nationhood is a big mistake. this is a wave that has emerged from capitalistic greed and liberal hubris, and it will be here soon (if it isn't already). i know loads of people here in Scotland that in the past would have never voted Tory, who are actually happy to see Trump win...not just happy but gloating.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18S NX
The problem IMO is simply that liberal democracy is incapable of compartmentalising its problems anymore. it's socialism or barbarism now, but socialism needs to re-invent itself into something inclusive and not elitist and authoritarian. Yanis Varoufakis (the former Greek finance minister) is the only person I've come across who seems to have any solutions, and i'd definitely recommend his books to anyone (the latest one, 'Technofeudalism', is worth a read - would also recommend his series 'In the Eye of the Storm').
Hard to see bright sides this morning, but I think he is due to be sentenced for one of his convictions now that the election is over. Judge delayed it purely on basis it might interfere with the electoral process. Not sure how that gets scrapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
president JD Vance on the Horizon
what have the Americans just done :(
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Originally Posted by Jones28
Bill Foley will be delighted.
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....Forgot about that Tw@t.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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As will all billionaires which says it all really.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
He can pardon himself anyway. He has full immunity to act how he pleases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
All federal proceedings are over.
Theoretically state prosecutions can continue, but in reality state courts will crumble in a battle with a vengeful president elect. The Supreme Court has given him cover to pass any executive order he likes to bar future proceedings against him… and no doubt commit many more crimes.
This isn’t about left v right but the rule of law and democracy.
Trump’s false accusations about ‘weaponising the justice system’ will come true: he’ll be the one doing it.
The Dollar & Bitcoin will now surge after Trumps win.
Ahm in the huff with Ozy, he promised this wouldn't happen!
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