Managerial Sack Race

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I'm loving Celtic's fans reaction to this.

Not so long ago Kennedy was everything wrong with the club. His continued presence was proof that Lawell lacked the same ambition as Rodgers. He was the common denominator when Lennon ****ed 10 in a row. He was around when Delia huffed and puffed to the easiest league titles they will ever win and failed to ever get a treble.

Now Ange wants to take him to Spurs it's ripping the backroom staff away, denying them continuity and proof Ange is a snake.

Self entitled half wits.

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It's the first time Ange has ever taken backroom staff with him somewhere else too apparently.

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Not doubting you, just haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere
Wasn’t Kennedy not linked as being Naismith’s assistant

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Kennedy was rumoured to be wanted as Hearts next manager, we tried for him a few seasons ago also.

Rodgers and Jesse Marshe being quoted on Sky Sports News as the 2 favourites for the Celtic job.

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Not doubting you, just haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere
Wasn’t Kennedy not linked as being Naismith’s assistant

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Celtic apparently don't want to lose Kennedy though wither they hang on to him or not is another matter . I will be sorry to see Ange go tbh .

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Originally Posted by Cat Stanton

Helps having money though... And in this crappy league, where only two teams have any, I would bet a large amount of it on Since452 leading his team to at least runner's up spot, and probably picking up a cup along the way.

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I'd probably spend the whole £50 million on Josh Doig just to give Hibs the sell-on though so maybe not 😉

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

Glasgow times reporting £5 million compensation agreed . And Ange has agreed terms with spurs . The Sun saying ( I know ) spurs want kyogo and fee getting talked about is £20 million . Skysports article.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...to-replace-him

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Pray for Celtic fans this evening as they grapple with the shocking realisation that they're not the pinnacle of the footballing world, as they imagined. And for the Scottish Media.

The whole of Scotland is in shock and mourning. #prayforceltic

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Originally Posted by Onion

Pray for Celtic fans this evening as they grapple with the shocking realisation that they're not the pinnacle of the footballing world, as they imagined. And for the Scottish Media.

The whole of Scotland is in shock and mourning. #prayforceltic

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Aye, a lot of them seem to have taken the hump when I tweeted the club wishing Ange all the best at a bigger and better club. I think the "seethe" is high amongst them, glorious fun

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Originally Posted by Onion

Pray for Celtic fans this evening as they grapple with the shocking realisation that they're not the pinnacle of the footballing world, as they imagined. And for the Scottish Media.

The whole of Scotland is in shock and mourning. #prayforceltic

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I find it hard to believe any Celtic is genuinely bewildered that he would leave them for Spurs. Celtic are a gigantic overfed fish in a tiny pond. Being better than Rangers is the only serious challenge the job presents. For a good, ambitious manager it's not much more than a useful stepping stone to bigger challenges.

5 million compensation should soften the blow.

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

Not doubting you, just haven’t seen this mentioned anywhere
Wasn’t Kennedy not linked as being Naismith’s assistant

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All over the BBC Sport website

I think they will go for the Man City Assistant coach they was linked with last week and if they do cash in on a few players then I'm sure the will replace them easy enough.

No chance Lennon as after last time and the hassle of would bring, interesting to see who will be announced in the upcoming weeks.

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Originally Posted by He's here!

I find it hard to believe any Celtic is genuinely bewildered that he would leave them for Spurs. Celtic are a gigantic overfed fish in a tiny pond. Being better than Rangers is the only serious challenge the job presents. For a good, ambitious manager it's not much more than a useful stepping stone to bigger challenges.

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You've just summed Scottish football

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Originally Posted by Tambo

I think they will go for the Man City Assistant coach they was linked with last week and if they do cash in on a few players then I'm sure the will replace them easy enough.

No chance Lennon as after last time and the hassle of would bring, interesting to see who will be announced in the upcoming weeks.

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What's Brendan Rodgers doing these days?[emoji6]

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

The compensation is a lot higher than I’d have thought, a 12 month-rolling contract would pay
Wonder if he’s taking any of his backroom staff with him

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Hope so. I do enjoy seeing either cheek of the old firm decimated.

I give Ange until Xmas.

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Originally Posted by Colr

I give Ange until Xmas.

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Cant believe cardiff didnt go for Ange lol

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Originally Posted by Colr

I give Ange until Xmas.

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Spurs is a tough job; there always seems to be problems and drama there. That said, it's a big opportunity for him, one he can't turn down. He might surprise everyone again.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Spurs is a tough job; there always seems to be problems and drama there. That said, it's a big opportunity for him, one he can't turn down. He might surprise everyone again.

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Celtic was a tough job too, they were in a right mess and he recruited well. We’ll just need to wait and see how it goes for him Dan saff


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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

Celtic was a tough job too, they were in a right mess and he recruited well. We’ll just need to wait and see how it goes for him Dan saff


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Yep he did recruit well but in fairness he was able to take advantage of a couple of markets he knew really well. Will he be able to do that for a top 6 English prem club? Not so sure.


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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

Celtic was a tough job too, they were in a right mess and he recruited well. We’ll just need to wait and see how it goes for him Dan saff


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Yes, he was written off as an unknown who had been appointed out of desperation. He did a superb job re-building their squad. Spurs is a tougher challenge, but he's earned the right to have a crack at it.

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Originally Posted by Since452

I'd probably spend the whole £50 million on Josh Doig just to give Hibs the sell-on though so maybe not 😉

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You have my full support. And if you're looking for an assistant, I'm available (and would only look for, say, 10% of your annual budget in salary and expenses).

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Originally Posted by Since452

I'd probably spend the whole £50 million on Josh Doig just to give Hibs the sell-on though so maybe not [emoji6]

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Why not just buy a player direct from Hibs for £50 million.

McKirdy is available..

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Ange confirmed on a 4 year deal. Wow, he has some agent btw!

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Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus

Ange confirmed on a 4 year deal. Wow, he has some agent btw!

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How come?

He’s done a great job at Celtic, will do well for Spurs IMO.

Glad hes away. His Celtic side a lot scarier than Rodgers or Lennons.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

Glad hes away. His Celtic side a lot scarier than Rodgers or Lennons.

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I'm not glad he's away at all . Would much rather Celtic winning leagues and cups than that other lot and Ange going improves there chance's of it happening now . Want to see Sevco win sweet FA always . Hate them with a passion.

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

I'm not glad he's away at all . Would much rather Celtic winning leagues and cups than that other lot and Ange going improves there chance's of it happening now . Want to see Sevco win sweet FA always . Hate them with a passion.

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2 cheeks of the same arse. No difference between them.

I'd like Hibs to take points off of Celtic, and without him, we probably have a better chance.

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

I'm not glad he's away at all . Would much rather Celtic winning leagues and cups than that other lot and Ange going improves there chance's of it happening now . Want to see Sevco win sweet FA always . Hate them with a passion.

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TBH it doesn’t really matter which OF wins the league. We will have a better chance of winning one of the two competitions we can win (the Cups) with a weaker Celtic.

Matters not a jot who wins the league.

J

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

2 cheeks of the same arse. No difference between them.

I'd like Hibs to take points off of Celtic, and without him, we probably have a better chance.

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No idea if I’m correct here and CBA looking it up but I don’t think Ange was as good in Europe as some of their previous managers (possibly due to a lack of pragmatism). It might end up helping us out if they get a more pragmatic manager in terms of keeping the coefficient up.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

How come?

He’s done a great job at Celtic, will do well for Spurs IMO.

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I think a 4 year deal is mental, he's done a decent job up here, but the reality is anyone with his gulf in budget would do well.

Hope he picks up McGregor and the 3 Japanese boys.

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Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus

I think a 4 year deal is mental, he's done a decent job up here, but the reality is anyone with his gulf in budget would do well.

Hope he picks up McGregor and the 3 Japanese boys.

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4 year deal, but could well have various performance clauses, or minimum compensation etc within it.

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Originally Posted by ScottB

4 year deal, but could well have various performance clauses, or minimum compensation etc within it.

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:agree: There's no way Levy will have appointed him on a 4 year deal where they pay him loads at the inevitable sacking. He's tighter than Petrie in a straightjacket. There's also no way he will be on the same cash as Conte and Mourinho.

Hopefully a player exodus now follows him down south and substantially weakens them on the park too.

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Hopefully a player exodus now follows him down south and substantially weakens them on the park too.

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All that would do would give Rangers the opportunity, no one else.

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

All that would do would give Rangers the opportunity, no one else.

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Again, it's about other teams being able to take points off them. Rangers are losing most of their strikeforce and aren't exactly looking like a stronger side as it stands.

I'm not suggesting we (or any other club) will become title contenders, but weakened OF teams enhances our chances of a trophy or Europe.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

2 cheeks of the same arse. No difference between them.

I'd like Hibs to take points off of Celtic, and without him, we probably have a better chance.

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Both are bad though sevco are far worse than Celtic by some distance. In the case of two evils I'd always hope that the lesser evil wins . Nice taking points of the old firm there's no doubt about that though find taking points of sevco just that little bit sweeter

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Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee

All that would do would give Rangers the opportunity, no one else.

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Would give us a better chance to take points of them and/or present better opportunities in cup competitions.

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Originally Posted by Bristolhibby

TBH it doesn’t really matter which OF wins the league. We will have a better chance of winning one of the two competitions we can win (the Cups) with a weaker Celtic.

Matters not a jot who wins the league.

J

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I go into every season hoping Hibs finish 3rd and win a cup which is my main hope though when it comes down to who wins the league I always hope Celtic win it over that other lot and anything that p**** the vile Hun hordes off is good in my book so for me it does matter who wins the league tbh . I'd agree we have a better chance of a cup win if Celtic are weaker though rather Celtic not weaker than sevco in all honesty 👍

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Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby

Both are bad though sevco are far worse than Celtic by some distance. In the case of two evils I'd always hope that the lesser evil wins . Nice taking points of the old firm there's no doubt about that though find taking points of sevco just that little bit sweeter

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As bad as eachother. Beating both is equally sweet.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

As bad as eachother. Beating both is equally sweet.

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Realistically how often does it happen?

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Originally Posted by Lago

Realistically how often does it happen?

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Thats not the point being discussed.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

As bad as eachother. Beating both is equally sweet.

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I'd disagree with you there mate while both are bad for me the Huns are on another scale compared to Celtic . They couldn't even show abit of respect ( twice ) at the passing of Ron Gordon.If there was a award for most horrible club and fans in football they'd win it easily . There's only two teams that can win the league and I'd much rather see Celtic winning than them . Beating both is sweet though I do enjoy it a little bit more when it's the Huns tbh :greengrin

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

As bad as eachother. Beating both is equally sweet.

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Personally speaking beating Rangers makes me a LOT happier than beating Celtic - both very enjoyable nonetheless

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

As bad as eachother. Beating both is equally sweet.

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Beating Celtic doesn't come anywhere near as close to the feeling of beating Rangers for me. I despise that particular club with a passion.

I think the next Celtic manager could well be on a shoogly peg.
Tough act to follow and any moment that Rangers get their noses in front will be honeymoon over.
Beale is no mug either. Depends how he recruits.
Pendulum has swung toward the middle.

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Originally Posted by Lago

Realistically how often does it happen?

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Two weeks ago

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

What's Brendan Rodgers doing these days?[emoji6]

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Sending his CV to Parkhead

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Originally Posted by MKHIBEE

Sending his CV to Parkhead

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Glorious to see their about turn on " Judas" here if it did happen.

Very respectable manager who did what Ange did, and any subsequent successful celtc manager will do ad infinitum [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by MKHIBEE

Sending his CV to Parkhead

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Not interested apparently according to the sun and I can see why he would be a favourite due to the job he done befofe.

I don't think they will rush into a decision.

Glad to see Ange gone seemed to be a very astute knowledgeable guy who could easily have gone on to do a Jock Stein

He has more than proved himself and Scotland held no further challenges for him

Wish him every success hope he takes that dangerous diving wee bassa with him and hope Celtic appoint a tumshie

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Glad to see Ange gone seemed to be a very astute knowledgeable guy who could easily have gone on to do a Jock Stein

He has more than proved himself and Scotland held no further challenges for him

Wish him every success hope he takes that dangerous diving wee bassa with him and hope Celtic appoint a tumshie

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Which diving wee bassa :greengrin

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Enzo Maresca 6/4
Brendan Rodgers 3/1
Jesse Marsch 6/1
Kjetil Knudsen 6/1
John Kennedy 8/1
David Moyes 10/1
Scott Brown 12/1
Graham Potter 16/1
Paul Lambert 16/1
Steve Clarke 20/1
Kieran McKenna 20/1
Martin O'Neill 20/1

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

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Brendan Rodgers 3/1
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Kjetil Knudsen 6/1
John Kennedy 8/1
David Moyes 10/1
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Graham Potter 16/1
Paul Lambert 16/1
Steve Clarke 20/1
Kieran McKenna 20/1
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Where is Lenny? [emoji1787]

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Next Celtic Manager
Latest Betting 06/06

Enzo Maresca 6/4
Brendan Rodgers 3/1
Jesse Marsch 6/1
Kjetil Knudsen 6/1
John Kennedy 8/1
David Moyes 10/1
Scott Brown 12/1
Graham Potter 16/1
Paul Lambert 16/1
Steve Clarke 20/1
Kieran McKenna 20/1
Martin O'Neill 20/1

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The guy Maresca who is the bookies favourite has a good agent. He had a disaster in his only managerial job yet he’s being heavily linked with the Celtic and Southampton jobs. Not sure what it is that I’m missing but why would he possibly get another crack at such a big job?

Being a good assistant isn’t enough surely.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

The guy Maresca who is the bookies favourite has a good agent. He had a disaster in his only managerial job yet he’s being heavily linked with the Celtic and Southampton jobs. Not sure what it is that I’m missing but why would he possibly get another crack at such a big job?

Being a good assistant isn’t enough surely.

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He's had 1 managerial job by the looks of it.

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

He's had 1 managerial job by the looks of it.

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That’s right, at Parma in Seria B and had a shocker, only lasted less than 6 months

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Where is Lenny? [emoji1787]

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I'm amazed the born winner isn't on the list.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

The guy Maresca who is the bookies favourite has a good agent. He had a disaster in his only managerial job yet he’s being heavily linked with the Celtic and Southampton jobs. Not sure what it is that I’m missing but why would he possibly get another crack at such a big job?

Being a good assistant isn’t enough surely.

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I could only assume its due to the fact he is with pep and contacts he could have, would be risky and no doubt Rodgers would be the sensible option if he was interested.

All Is Barry saying that Naismith is to be appointed at Hearts

A weak appointment IMO

Personal view, but if he is still in post after March 2024 (following whenever their Scottish Cup exit is next season) I'll be surprised.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-talks-4172803

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Originally Posted by Springbank

All Is Barry saying that Naismith is to be appointed at Hearts

A weak appointment IMO

Personal view, but if he is still in post after March 2024 (following whenever their Scottish Cup exit is next season) I'll be surprised.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-talks-4172803

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So they've just got rid of a permanent manager LJ hadn't won against and appointed a new one that LJ hasn't lost against? Good stuff!

Derby stuff aside I hope he fails miserably, can't stand the guy. Oh and Hearts get relegated. Again.

Shaun Maloney being linked with the Swansea job.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Shaun Maloney being linked with the Swansea job.

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Would be a great opportunity for him. They fit his style of play.

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Originally Posted by JamesHFC

Would be a great opportunity for him. They fit his style of play.

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Do they hate scoring goals?

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Shaun Maloney being linked with the Swansea job.

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His agent deserves a pay rise

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Do they hate scoring goals?

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They are known for possession and building from the back. It be interesting to see how he gets on with actual decent attacking players.

i hope sellick land Daniel ****e






rather them than Leeds i say :)


asterisks ? erm ok Daniel F A R K E

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Do they hate scoring goals?

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😂

Is Pep the GOAT manager? Think he’s the first manager to do the treble with two different clubs?

It’s difficult to define rules to measure against. What Clough did at Forrest, for example, puts him up there despite far fewer trophies. There’s also the argument Guardiola has only managed 3 of the biggest clubs in the world and had an open cheque book each time. Although I’m not sure that should be held against him as I think Man U have spent more money during Guardiola’s time at City so money doesn’t guarantee anything.

Does Pep and his success (which isn’t slowing down) and the way he has influenced the way teams play football the last 10 or 15 years make him the GOAT?

What are the metrics that differentiate? Number of trophies? Trophies won with small clubs? Impact on how football is played? Etc

As an aside. Fodden, at 23, has won 5 premier leagues. 2 FA Cups. 4 League Cups. 2 Community Shields. 1 Champions League. Frightening.

Ancelotti must be up there as GOAT owns the Champions League

Won the Champions League as a player (2) and Manager (4)

Won the five major leagues in Europe as Manager

Brazil sniffing about Madrid told them he is going nowhere

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Ancelotti must be up there as GOAT owns the Champions League

Won the Champions League as a player (2) and Manager (4)

Won the five major leagues in Europe as Manager

Brazil sniffing about Madrid told them he is going nowhere

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Guardiola, Ancelotti and Ferguson are the best of the last 30 odd years. You could make an argument for all 3 to be the very best

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

Guardiola, Ancelotti and Ferguson are the best of the last 30 odd years. You could make an argument for all 3 to be the very best

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

Guardiola, Ancelotti and Ferguson are the best of the last 30 odd years. You could make an argument for all 3 to be the very best

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You could also make an argument for Jock Stein Bob Paisley and Brian Clough.

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You could also make an argument for Jock Stein Bob Paisley and Brian Clough.

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Probably could but they are before my time

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Originally Posted by gbhibby

You could also make an argument for Jock Stein Bob Paisley and Brian Clough.

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Clough had a good spell but without his assistant Peter Taylor he wasn't half the manager.

He's nowhere near the others over his whole career.

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Clough had a good spell but without his assistant Peter Taylor he wasn't half the manager.

He's nowhere near the others over his whole career.

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Could Pep and the rest take a team from the lower part of the 2nd tier to winning the top league and the European Cup 2 years in a row with limited money. Fergie always surrounded himself with top assistants.

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Originally Posted by gbhibby

Could Pep and the rest take a team from the lower part of the 2nd tier to winning the top league and the European Cup 2 years in a row with limited money. Fergie always surrounded himself with top assistants.

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Limited money?

Go and check out the transfer of Trevor Francis.

It's a myth that he didn't have money to spend...

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Would have to say Alex Ferguson and Pepe Guardiola as the best
Outsider maybe Mircea Lucescu ?

Pep has worked miracles with Barca, Bayern and Man City on shoestring budgets. Man is a genius.

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Originally Posted by Since452

Pep has worked miracles with Barca, Bayern and Man City on shoestring budgets. Man is a genius.

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Originally Posted by Since452

Pep has worked miracles with Barca, Bayern and Man City on shoestring budgets. Man is a genius.

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There is no doubt he improves players though. Stones & Ake from Everton & Bournemouth, phenomenal performances from both this season.

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There is no doubt he improves players though. Stones & Ake from Everton & Bournemouth, phenomenal performances from both this season.

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The thing is, if he can't improve them or they don't suit, he is able to blast another 50 million. He had some horrendous transfers at Barcelona. Just binned them and got another. Few clubs can do that.

Read somewhere that Pep is over the £1 billion signing mark with Man City. One thousand million. That was last year so much more by now. Incredible.

Who was it that said money doesn’t buy success?

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Who was it that said money doesn’t buy success?

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David Moyes.

thank goodness, bookies had him 2nd fav for the Elland Road job

Steven Gerrard set to become manager of Saudi Pro League side Al-Ettifaq (sportinglife.com)

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David Moyes.

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:greengrin

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You could also make an argument for Jock Stein Bob Paisley and Brian Clough.

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Jock Stein’s feat in taking Celtic-a team that couldn’t get into the top four in the Scottish league in 1965 to European Champions in 1967 - was sensational .

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Jock Stein’s feat in taking Celtic-a team that couldn’t get into the top four in the Scottish league in 1965 to European Champions in 1967 - was sensational .

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Coulda shudda been Hibs

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Coulda shudda been Hibs

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Screwed over twice really as if Jock hadn't been in charge of Celtic in the 70's think how many trophies the Tornadoes would have won?



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Originally Posted by Steven79

Screwed over twice really as if Jock hadn't been in charge of Celtic in the 70's think how many trophies the Tornadoes would have won?



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They wouldn't have been the Tornadoes though.

Stein's Scorchers doesn't have the same ring to it!

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Who was it that said money doesn’t buy success?

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Rod Petrie

The Sun ( I know ) reporting that Celtic are offering Brendan Rodgers a bumper deal to become there manager and it also says if they lose Kennedy to spurs they will move for Scott brown as his number 2 . Also this on Queens park that seems a bit far fetched .
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...r-queens-park/

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Who was it that said money doesn’t buy success?

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Ann Budge and Andrew McKinlay - in the Hearts boardroom last week when they were trying to work out where the £45m of donations had gone.

"Advanced talks for Rodgers to return to Celtc"

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1668927996437098497?t=GWho3pCV0RATfi4jfhbwqA&s=19

Press conference alone will be worth it

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Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy

"Advanced talks for Rodgers to return to Celtc"

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1668927996437098497?t=GWho3pCV0RATfi4jfhbwqA&s=19

Press conference alone will be worth it

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Seems the obvious choice. Will probably do well there again

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

Seems the obvious choice. Will probably do well there again

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Standout candidate though there's going to be quite a few P**** off Celtic fans about it if he does get it .

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Standout candidate though there's going to be quite a few P**** off Celtic fans about it if he does get it .

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Yeah im baffled at that

I've seen a few comments about them playing "turgid football"

Did they? I thought they were mostly excellent under Rodgers

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Yeah im baffled at that

I've seen a few comments about them playing "turgid football"

Did they? I thought they were mostly excellent under Rodgers

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I'm baffled as well about it , for me he's definitely the best choice for the job . I thought the football was good when Rodgers at them the last time . Think it's more to do with the way he left tbh . The Celtic fans I've asked over here about " what you think of Rodgers coming back ?" Generally gets met with a response " He can get to ....... Or rat and Judas are quite popular words 😂. Think if he comes in and does well all will be forgiven though first sign of a blip and it probably will turn toxic for him .

Rangers fans ***** would collectively collapse if Rodgers got the Celtic job. He handed them some brutal beatings. For that reason I'm all for it.