Correct, i was over the moon when we signed Colin Murdoch from Championship club Preston, and hyper ventilated when Danny Galbraith signed on from Man Utd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
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Correct, i was over the moon when we signed Colin Murdoch from Championship club Preston, and hyper ventilated when Danny Galbraith signed on from Man Utd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
back to your midfield formation, and of course this is only an opinion: Sheils--stick on, as we know he tries like a lion and has the skill. Cairney-- untried, but PF talks well of him and he apparently "wants the ball" and tries to make things happen, also he scored 15 goals last year, not bad fi a midfielder (a young Pat McGinley in the making?) . the two you mention about their billing? last chance saloon IFAIC, and the other 2, well, what can I say.? more midfielders please mister Fenlon, although this may not matter a jot to me , on the 13th o' July!Quote:
Originally Posted by Salt & Sauzee
Danny Galbraith was a striker at Man Utd, he was young and spoken of well. Potential isn't always fulfilled.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
And Colin Murdoch, well, he was dire. But slotted a nice penalty away.
Guess you cried when we signed a failed striker like Anthony Stokes?
Are you gutted we've signed James Mcpake from a league 1 team that didn't give him a game in the championship?
Is Rob Jones forgotten about I mean Grimsby isn't exactly a marvelous team?
all this talk of deano joining us again is welcome but im not ashamed to admit i was 1 of the posters on here who whould stick the boot in so to speak regarding his reliability, i seen deano have great games followed by 5 stinkers, maybe cos of his age? he wasnt mature enough but i what i saw on highlights last season and im gonna say again "highlights" has he got better or have we all forgotten he was an enigma 1st time round, clearly talented player but worthy of a starting place every week? id like to think so however, so just asking:wink:
Still no width!Quote:
Originally Posted by .sean.
I was just using last seasons apparent first choice midfield as a guideline, hopefully we can get better players in, but I fear this rebuilding job will take more than one transfer window. At the very least we need a striker, a goalie and a winger, and we need to inject some pace in the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
striker - Doyle (or am I missing something)
He actually played more at left back than he did as a striker...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
He is our only striker. So we need at least another two strikers to come in.Quote:
Originally Posted by wandering_hibee
Caldwell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
I'd like a reasonable quality striker to come in and Caldwell should be 3rd choice, we need to start bringing through the youngsters again especially as money may be tight and they could have good value in the transfer market if they produce the goods.Quote:
Originally Posted by West Upper Pie
Two experienced strikers and one young striker. Is that really going to see us through the season?
Realistically no, but I'm sure we can use Stanton as well? We have youth players available to use and we should be starting to bring them through. Ideally though we could bring in two strikers but the money situation must surely be an issue after selling very few season tickets compared to last season. As I've already asked, are there any other strikers on our radar except Sutton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
AND a Spanish, French, German, South American, Portugese etc etc :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Totally agree. He is a central midfielder.Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Craig75
We bought him as a defensive central mid so let's play him and Cairney in the middle and get two decent wingers either side of them.
If the budget doesn't stretch to two lets put Booth on left and get a new right winger in
PernisQuote:
Originally Posted by stuart7-0
Clancy
McPake
Michalik
Maybury
Kalonas
Osbourne
Cairney
Booth
Sutton
Doyle
Brown, Hanlon, O'Hanlon, Stevenson, Claros, Caldwell, O'Connor
Not Picked: Galbraith, Stephens, Sproule, Kujabi, Stanton, Stephens, Wotherspoon
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Originally Posted by Leishy1995
You have just proved what i said, its no pointer at all what club they have played for.
I thought that in the handful of games towards the end of last season Sproule did a half decent job as a sort of tracking back, defensive midfielder. Leaving aside his now obvious lack of creativity and inability to deliver a final ball, his pace and aggression (If he curbs the temptation to dive in studs up) could help protect the back 4 a little better. Just a thought...Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
IMHO the last few posts show we need 6 or 7 new signings as follows:
GK (possibly 2),
Defence - CH / LB (or someone like Clancy who can do both),
Midfield - CM (attacking - we have no goal threat from midfield), LM
Forwards, CF x 2 (auld heid with bit of physique, and other with a bit of pace)
We better get a move on also. Pre-season has started - these signings should be here and settling in IMHO.
Only if they are good enough though - the team can't be easily rebuilt in just a few weeks after what you would probably agree with has been years of not being right.Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
Don't disagree with what we need but think we have to be patient.
I agree totally it might take another couple of windows to get that shopping list in. I think what he needs to make sure is first and foremost he sorts out that defence and GK situation which instantly makes us harder to bear. We are also going to seend some CF's as we only have 1 recognised in the squad. I have a feeling that the wide men might have to wait...as for a creative CM i think that is why Cairney has been brought in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
I thought Pernis had already turned us down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
We finished 10th and 11th the last two seasons despite spending more than all clubs bar 3 so if we all accept mediocrity like you seem to then what chance have we got of improving.Quote:
Originally Posted by goosefat
"Half decent, lack of creativity and inability to deliver a final ball". You've summed up reasons NOT to play him.
We need better and the resources are there to deliver better within budget.
What about Danny Handling, 2 young strikers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
But yes the ideal shopping list should be:
GK (or 2 if Brown leaves)
CD (if O'Hanlon leaves)
RB/LB (ideally someone who can play both!)
CM
RM
LM
2 Strikers
Possibly 8 or 9 players in there, that's a lot of work to do.....
You just beat me to mentioning Handling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain G
Scored a few on loan to Berwick last season ... Just like Miller and Deeks before him.... Certainly want to see him and Caldwell in the squad
I'd take that in a second. Not sure abt mabury but if it's not Callum he's better than we haveQuote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
Was he any good?Quote:
Originally Posted by West Upper Pie
I thought you were implying we shouldn't get excited over players coming from the English leaguesQuote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Sadly, the being patient has failed us enormously though as we have signed some total dross at these times - thus why there "has been years of not being right"Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
I don't think it's the being patient that's been the problem, it's been the picking the wrong players regardless of when they were signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
Graeme Smith and Ed de Graaf, Maka and Alan O'Brien - they were all early in the door.
Last I heard he was going to Cowdenbeath for a season long loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuart7-0
Hanlon will start. Hopefully every game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
I think with Clancy and McPake signing, Michalik will have dropped off the radar or at least slipped down the pecking order in terms of priority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
Goalies and strikers have to come before another central defender IMO.
:agree: A couple of strikers and a wide player are priority IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
I'm just hopeful the best possible player in that position starts. If we can get better than Hanlon then great as far as I'm concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
We were poor at the back last year and I'm not sure just the addition of Clancy will change much about that.
I have no idea why you'd think that, nothing in any of my posts have remotely implied it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
I'd be happy with 2 wide players, 1 striker and 1 goalie for the following formation:
.........................GK....................... ....
RB.............CH..............CH................L B
........................DM........................ ....
................CM..............CM................ ..
...AM.........................................AM.. ..
........................ST........................ ....
I believe this gives us a variety of shapes to play with a balance of defennsive and offensive positions.
I'd be happy having 1 recognised senior GK with the youngsters as back up. 1 additional striker, preferrably someone who can play with their back to goal and link the midfield. Budget wise we have a few midfielders on our books for the above positions so the addition of an AM in the mould of Deano would be a good target. Let Claros/Ozzy/Stevenson/Stanton/Spoony compete for the DM & CM positions.
Not a single midfield ball winner in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
At LB, hopefully. With McPake/Clancy in the centre.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
With a loss of income (Rangers) I just can't see us paying off existing contracts to make way for new signings or even keeping existing players with more players added to the wage list.Quote:
Originally Posted by West Upper Pie
We may well have to live with what we have and focus just now on bringing in a GK and CF/ST as Pat has identified these as being our priority areas.
Happy for him to go on loan as long as we can recall him after six months. Would like to see him given a chance IF we are not in a relegation scrapQuote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Clancy will be at right back.Quote:
Originally Posted by BouncerRoss
Then relegation fight awaits again IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Every other club will be in a similar position IMHO, we'll just have to hope that our youngsters are more ready to step up than other club's youngsters.Quote:
Originally Posted by West Upper Pie
I think we'll maybe only see another 2 or 3 signings, then we'll go with what we've got.
I also think some of the youngsters will play a big part this year. IMO signing 2 keepers would be a waste when one will be sitting on the bench most of the time and i think we need to start looking towards the players coming through as well as bringing a few through transfers.
Back 2 will defo be mcpake an Hanlon the Clancy and maybe an other
:agree: I'd be surprised with anymore than 3 given that we were already making a loss, season tickets are down and we will take a hit on income with Rangers out the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
My preference would be a goalie and x2 forwards with a least one of them also being able to operate out wide.
I think we'd be daft to bring in 2 goalies given the cutbacks plus it would hinder the progress of the two younger guys.
The fact the post I replied to stated the just because someone was in a second tier English team doesn't make them good. Sure you can see where the confusing part came into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
has anything been said about Mark Brown yet? Not my first choice but at least it means we have a few options in goal...
Thats not what I've heard,i was told of a friend season tickets are up at 11500 due to the final.don't know how he knows mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
No chance you will be lucky if there is 8,500 season ticket holders at the moment, RP has gone on record that we are still below last years sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Cabbage 7
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Originally Posted by H18sry
He's also 'gone on record' to discuss his love of sporting integrity above all other considerations.
Petrie plays these games with us every year. I no longer trust a word that comes out his mouth.
SL said the same........Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
He is training with Hibs at East Mains.Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomscotsman
He has been offered a contract.
He has not signed the contract.
Been offered less money than last year? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Probably waiting to see if he will be No.1 choice if PF gets in a new keeper before he signs or just looking for more cash... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Try 5,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
No it didn't:confused:, you are just making it up now as you go along????????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
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Originally Posted by Hibstrooper
:agree: One senior keeper, and work with the younger guys to bring them on.
If certain players move on, replace them. And look for 2, possibly 3 attacking players for the beginning of the season.
And actually put our money where our mouth is and give younger guys their chance in the first team.
If it was up to me (and lets face it, it should be :greengrin) then we need 4 new players providing Brown signs a new deal. We need 2 mid-fielders and 2 strikers.
Defence is pretty tight with Clancy, Mcpake, O'Hanlon and Hanlon as Right/Centre backs. We've got 3 Left backs in Kujabi, Booth and Smith.
Wotherspoon needs back in the team IMO, played wide right. Cairney and Claros seem to be in the same mould, although Cairney seems to be a real goal threat. Osbourne was good in the first part of last season, a real scrapper and ball winner. We need another like him - Steve Jennings? Would also like to see us get in another wide right player, Ross Forbes might be a good shout. Sproule, Glabraith and and Booth can all play wide left.
Strikers - Doyle, Caldwell and Handling, a wee bit more experience would see us right, Sutton and someone else.
Brown
Clancy Mcpake Hanlon Kujabi
Wotherspoon Cairney Osbourne Sproule
Doyle newstriker
Didn't SL say that 2000 had not renewed which is slightly different. Not renewed does not take into account new/first time applicants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
New GK
Clancy
McPake
New CB
Smith/Booth
New RM
Cairney
Stanton
New LM
Caldwell
Handling
No danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
It's times like these I'm reminded that the management at Hibs could be a lot worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mainboy19
I think we need two senior keepers. Do we really want to be playing one of the kids when the first choice gets injured?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddie
Hughes got stick for having 3 senior keepers at the time but we were actually down to just Graeme Smith at the end of it as two got injured.
It's a huge, unnnecessary risk to leave yourself without any senior keeper.
I'm all for playing some kids, when they can come in under the right circumstances but goalkeeper and centre half are the areas I think that you can't afford to be reliant upon a kid at any stage.
I also don't really see the obsession with getting kids in - of course good ones are welcome, can make you money eventually and that's lovely. Right now I want a Hibs team that can win a few games, all else is a bit secondary.
You are correct Gordon......I wish we could be told the number of season ticket holders we currently have.....Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
I think this has been addressed a couple of times - Scott Lindsay confimed at the last forum or meeting that 5,000 was the total tickets sold at the time which included new holders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
I don't know why that many believed that there would have been that many totally new ticket holders who bought just to get a cup final ticket. That never made much sense to me.
Massive season for all youngsters at every SPL side apart from maybe Celtic as most squads will be a lot leaner with regards to experienced players. I look towards the likes of Booth, Smith, Wotherspoon, Caldwell and maybe Galbraith at looking at the season ahead as one of opportunity at Hibs. Whether or not they take it is another matter. In all the doom and gloom revolving around the Rangers scenario I genuinely believe this could be a chance for some freshness across the board in the SPL. Taking all that into account I think three more players signed on a permanent basis is as good as we can hope for. Couple decent loan signings too might happen though and would happily welcome back someone like Francomb who offered some versatility.
I replied to someone who said just because he was in the English championship doesn't make him good enough for us. And then you said the Colin Murdoch and Galbraith post. you've just changed what you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Was just looking at the thread on Alan Maybury and ended up looking to see where he all played before ST J, came across Liam Craigs profile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Craig Says at the bottom hes set for a move to us? :confused:
Sorry if ive missed this earlier in the thread but has anyone heard any rumours about this?
I always thought there would be a decent uptake on new tickets, in return for Cup Final tickets. I can't recall how many were available in terms of a public sale, and I know a number of people who could have taken two, only took one....I really thought we would have had more based on that.....I was slightly surprised at how low we are at this moment....Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
The challenge then (as another poster has pointed out) is to work out how 22,000 of our supporters got their hands on Cup Final tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Makes for some tricky arithmetic, with a few heroic assumptions thrown in for good measure.
Liam Craig always made a habit of scoring against us......(Not heard any rumours about him though)Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieross
It does appearing challenging BEEJ, If we are down on renewals, where did all the tickets go, and why was there such a panic regarding getting them?Quote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
No i have not, and didnt actually say just because he was in the championship, doesnt make him good enough for us, you reallu ought to read what people say before you reply?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
My quote about Murdoch and Galbraith only proves it does not matter where they play their football, some are decent others are poor. You were the one when replying to bingo, when he asked (So being good enough to be a reserve keeper in englands second league means he was good enough for us?)
Your answer was.
For me it does. Judging by the standard that same team set with the first choice they obviously know a good goalie when they see one.
Its you who has stated your opinion, nobody else??????
I didn't mean to delete my reply. But it basically said I read something that wasn't there in your post regarding Murdoch. I am sorry for that.
No problem. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leishy1995
So, any news on transfer progression?
Liam Craig is a good player, would be happy were this to come true.
Er no, or I wouldn't have posted it. :confused::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by stuart7-0
When STV news is on, im in my work.
Cheers, never seen that. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Hibs went way OTT in giving the impression that Cup Final tickets were likely going to be allocated without a public sale. The only conclusion that could be drawn at the time (given that we knew that the other categories were relatively low on numbers) was that ST sales/renewals had rocketed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Eh website twitter etc !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 1875STEVE
I hope your joking, I wouldn't say I'd be a bit bothered if I didn't see him play for hibs again.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
I'm guessing they have sold a lot, but most of them will be for students/kids tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
So based on what we have at the moment, in some variation of a 4-5-1 formation...
Brown
Clancy
McPake
Hanlon
Booth
Wotherspoon
Claros
Osbourne
Crainey
Stevenson
Doyle
Then god help us for the new season :greengrin
The defense has been strengthened partially, we still need an experienced keeper, another defender, 2 midfielders and 2 forwards as a minimum going into the new season IMHO!!! :agree:
heard from a good source that hibs are still in for centre back lubomir michalik from carlisle. hibs only willing to make up his pay in appearance to money to match his demands so im led to believe
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Originally Posted by Iain G
:shocked::shocked:,
One Word.
Relegation.
Im by no means a super optomist but i have to say im a bit fed up hearing about how we will be relegated. Ffs every club in the spl is weaker than last year and we still have time tl the season starts. I have faith that PF will not only turn the tam around but hopefully the whole cub will get its act together
:top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Its easy to pick holes when the windows just opened & we have made 3 signings..More to come says the manager & I believe him..Obviously with what we had left with the number of departures we were going to be weak, but thats not going to be the squad by the end of the window, judge it then..Or even better when the team actually kicks a ball..Negative vibes for no reason..
Absolutely right............I'll leave my reservations until we are into the season and have played some competitive games, as you say all teams will be weakened this season and PF will be able to make his own mark on the teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
from Twatter
St Johnstone 1884@stjohnstone1884Defender A Maybury, who has spent the past couple of seasons with Saints, is training with Hibernian.
I'd take Liam Craig in a heartbeat
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Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
Yeah he said he wanted to bring in a striker and a goalkeeper, he may need to bring in two goalies if Brown doesn't agree terms with Hibs, new faces need to come in this week and we have to get the goalkeeping situation sorted this week coming.
There won't be much of Pat's budget left to bring in other players once he has got a goalie and striker in.
Maybe the Sol money and potential sale of Wotherspoon will add to his coffers SH.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
I think we are at least 5 short squadwise. At least.
Tom Miller onTalksport saying Mark Kerr andAlan Maybuty on trial
Any clauses left with Fletcher?Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Nice one. The tache is good but not that good I'm afraid. 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
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Originally Posted by truehibernian
I would have thought money or some of it at least would have went towards the squad from our cup final run and that day, but seems not, PF is making it quite clear that only money from ST will be his budget for this year, so any money brought in from sale of DW wouldn't go to Pats Budget but more than likely pay of debts at the club, and LC FC will be lucky to see any money from the Turkish club.
As i said a goalie and a striker and that may well be Pat's budget finished for this window, which would be a bit scary, i spoke to someone through the week and they said PF was working his socks of trying to get players to come to the club, but he is finding it difficult to get them here, seemingly was disappointed in not securing the lad from Falkirk as had watched him a number of times last season and was a target for PF.
I really do hope he has brought plenty of luck from over the water as i think he will need it, an injury to say Mcpake and another player and we are in the deep stuff, we can only go up the way next season, if not then you no what happens.
Have to admit i am a bit worried about the season ahead TH. :aok:
On the good side is i have a pix n mix from Morrisons for the night ahead. :greengrin
Don't worry yet, Rome wasn't built in a day. Few weeks till the first game and that's all that counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
I also think you will have made some poor choices in that pic and mix :agree::greengrin