The generic Hearts thread

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Originally Posted by HoboHarry

Hearts are deserving of having the boot stuck into them but so are Sevco - when he starts (unless I've missed it) putting the boot into Sevco for their spending policy then I for one will have a higher opinion of him. I'm not holding my breath though.....

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IIRC he was one of the very few journalists to write that the sanctimonious outrage orchestrated by Sevco after our cup-winning exuberance was way out of proportion.

We are in a situation where Sevco - like Hearts until recently - have publicly insisted that directors and benefactors will continue to pile in sufficient cash to alleviate any losses. Unless a journalist has hard evidence that such assurances are a lie, they are on tricky ground going after them.

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Originally Posted by RossScott1991

With the news breaking about Aberdeen today, maybe best not to jump the gun on Hearts situation too much!

Wonder what Hibs response will be in coming days

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Aberdeen are saying a prolonged period with no income is unsustainable.

Leeann has asked for urgent clarity over financial help available to football clubs.

I don’t see anything wrong with either statement - they are pointing out the obvious perils facing any business in the wider entertainment / hospitality / events industry (which I also work in).

Budge just unilaterally declared that all staff need to take immediate 50% cut or lose their jobs. Very different.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Aberdeen are saying a prolonged period with no income is unsustainable.

Leeann has asked for urgent clarity over financial help available to football clubs.

I don’t see anything wrong with either statement - they are pointing out the obvious perils facing any business in the wider entertainment / hospitality / events industry (which I also work in).

Budge just unilaterally declared that all staff need to take immediate 50% cut or lose their jobs. Very different.

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Agreed.

All clubs will be affected. Hard decisions will need to be made.

However, Hearts cash flow is obviously running out hence the drastic action taken.

Hibs seem not to be in the same boat just yet.

Matters will develop over the next couple of weeks/months and Hibs might have to make some tough choices.

However we have no major infrastructure projects on the go unlike Aberdeen and Hearts.

Not sure if it is good or bad thing that we don't have too many players out of contract this summer. On one hand we have to carry the wages whilst there is no football income but on the other hand our squad can be in place for when it does resume.

Teams like St Mirren and Hamilton have virtually a full team of players out of contract come June. I can't see them looking to replace these players until they know football is going to start again. There is going to be one mad scramble for players at some point.

Can't see much transfer activity over the summer as clubs will have cash shortages.

You never know though because the football economy is very different to the normal economy.

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

Not sure if both Aberdeen and Hearts catering etc is all in house so there would be overheads potentially incurred that Hibs wouldn't as ours is outsourced? I could be talking bollocks though

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You're not talking bollocks. Both of those clubs do their catering etc. in house and therefore have many more staff to worry about than Hibs. Even with the government assistance they'll be paying a lot of people at least 20% of their normal salaries and getting nothing in return.

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Originally Posted by Caversham Green

You're not talking bollocks. Both of those clubs do their catering etc. in house and therefore have many more staff to worry about than Hibs. Even with the government assistance they'll be paying a lot of people at least 20% of their normal salaries and getting nothing in return.

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I think it will be the staff who are taking the hit for the missing 20%.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I think it will be the staff who are taking the hit for the missing 20%.


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Is it 80% of gross or Net salary if gross no employee taking a hit :wink:

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I think it will be the staff who are taking the hit for the missing 20%.


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There's actually a choice, but the employee has to stay on the payroll and it's likely that most employers will meet the other 20%. It would be a pretty poor employer that didn't, so Hearts probably won't.

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Originally Posted by Tug Wilson

Agreed.

All clubs will be affected. Hard decisions will need to be made.

However, Hearts cash flow is obviously running out hence the drastic action taken.

Hibs seem not to be in the same boat just yet.

Matters will develop over the next couple of weeks/months and Hibs might have to make some tough choices.

However we have no major infrastructure projects on the go unlike Aberdeen and Hearts.

Not sure if it is good or bad thing that we don't have too many players out of contract this summer. On one hand we have to carry the wages whilst there is no football income but on the other hand our squad can be in place for when it does resume.

Teams like St Mirren and Hamilton have virtually a full team of players out of contract come June. I can't see them looking to replace these players until they know football is going to start again. There is going to be one mad scramble for players at some point.

Can't see much transfer activity over the summer as clubs will have cash shortages.

You never know though because the football economy is very different to the normal economy.

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You make really good points, and all show why this season should be ended now, positions as they are (too bad if you are bottom or lose out on promotion) Share out monies and move on!’
Lives and saving lives much, much more important right now

This whole situation is very sad.
Just finish the season now and pay everyone out.
I’d even go as far as to give the jambos extra money in their umbrella payment to accept it asap and get everything done.

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again [emoji23]

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‘Never waste a crisis’ as they say. Looks like Budge saw the CV crisis as an opportunity to force unwanted players out the door.


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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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Absolutel **** if this is true. Spread the word.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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What does it say?
Won’t click on any of their links...

Hearts are asking top agents for players. Saying they have cash to buy players now.
Words fail me.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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Shameless.

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Originally Posted by Waxy

Hearts are asking top agents for players. Saying they have cash to buy players now.
Words fail me.

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Think this could be the final nail in their coffin. People will not take kindly to this due to the current situation.

Budge is a disgrace

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Originally Posted by Waxy

Hearts are asking top agents for players. Saying they have cash to buy players now.
Words fail me.

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They are absolute ****. Please take a 50% paycut cos we can't afford to pay you and while your at it we will use those savings to buy your replacements. Even more than ever I hope they go down and go bust. ****ing disgrace if a self absorbed bunch of fuds

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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That is utterly shocking. They just career from one massive blunder to the next. Someone must have put something in the water over there. No decent minded person, let alone gold plated businesswoman, could possibly make such a mess of things without some sort of Mickey Finn having been administered without them knowing.

Just wow! Effectively saying “we are moving players on to free up wages and transfer fees”

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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Horrible horrible club

New level of low if that’s possible

You got to imagine the club captain knew what the plan was, given his, over the top, claim to undying love and support for the club through this “crisis” in the media yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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If true then that's shocking, using the current situation as a chance for a clear out.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

‘Never waste a crisis’ as they say. Looks like Budge saw the CV crisis as an opportunity to force unwanted players out the door.


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They can do what they want. So long as they are doing it in the championship next season.

Maybe they can poach Robbie Neilson back - he knows how to win that division.

I wonder what spin Tom English will put on it. Probably make it sound as if Budge has pulled a masterstroke of some kind. His love in with all things Hearts is pathetic.

An own goal by Hearts on this one. A number of their players will feel undermined by it and I can't see the Players Union looking kindly upon it either.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Got money to spend apparently. Or at least they expect to have money to spend once they get rid of the majority of their team and Hickey for a few quid.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...box=1584994328

There’s no chance they are expecting to play this season to a finish. Can you imagine asking some of the current squad to play for them again 😂

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But the 'Daily Hun' balances things up by including a video of a Hibs-supporter allegedly spitting at a Jambo-player !!

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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil

Is it 80% of gross or Net salary if gross no employee taking a hit :wink:

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Think its pretty much full salary up to the ceiling if you factor in the basic, non Scottish, rate of income tax

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

They are absolute ****. Please take a 50% paycut cos we can't afford to pay you and while your at it we will use those savings to buy your replacements. Even more than ever I hope they go down and go bust. ****ing disgrace if a self absorbed bunch of fuds

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In all honesty, ‘it belies belief!’
My query is: if the league is to start up again in say, June, what will happen to any Hertz players who didn’t accept a wage cut but asked for their contract to be terminated? Will they be able to sign for someone else? If they can’t, does that breach with their right to work for the rest of the season? Can’t see how they can be told they can’t sign for anyone till Aug/Sep and be without a wage all that time!

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Absolutely no doubt about that very clear in sportsound with Biscuits, Brian Mclauchlan, Robbo and bizarrely Tom English frequently indicating how wonderful an instruction they are with little or no fair critical comment. Time to get Michael Stewart back on.

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The vermin are so popular on the BBC across all platforms it’s sickening. However, when it comes to hibs they can’t wait to stick the boot in.

If they go down expect nothing less than the above mentioned people starting campaigns, bakeathons etc. to save their beloved maroon friends.

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Originally Posted by Newhaven

The vermin are so popular on the BBC across all platforms it’s sickening. However, when it comes to hibs they can’t wait to stick the boot in.

If they go down expect nothing less than the above mentioned people starting campaigns, bakeathons etc. to save their beloved maroon friends.

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Don’t lower ourselves to their disgusting standards with this vermin pish.

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Don’t lower ourselves to their disgusting standards with this vermin pish.

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Totally agree :agree: