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Mcbizz said it won't so Northern Hibee should be delighted
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Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
Mcbizz said it won't so Northern Hibee should be delighted
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Considering what diseases are still notifiable and require isolation, I think it's utterly ludicrous to remove the need for isolation for confirmed covid cases. I'm at the stage now where I think we're about ready to lift nearly all restrictions, but the removal of the requirement to isolate for people confirmed to have Covid19 is mental.
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Originally Posted by Callum_62
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How many of those tests are LFT at 50p a go? Self tested, results uploaded by individuals to central database. Minimal cost there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I'm sorry, but with so much of the money spent by this thieving ruinous UK Government, I just don't believe what they say.
What’s your experience?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
Who needs experience or facts to back up anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Believe in Boris seems to be the gist of it
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You think it cost 50p to buy, store, process and deliver, have the it systems and teams to process the information entered. That doesn't include the negatives not uploaded and ones sitting in cupboards. At one point in January they were sending out 7 million a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I personally wouldn't trust Boris Johnson as far as I could throw him and don't disagree that this decision has a lot to do with him trying to placate the fringe elements of his party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
I do agree with most of the post above, I think free testing should continue being available to anyone who is now advised to get another booster in spring but other than that I do agree with this decision. England may be the country in Europe that is proposing to go the furthest but it's not the only nation that is proposing measures like this over the coming weeks.
I think the time's come to scrap things like vaccine passports and compulsory mask wearing and I hope we hear something similar tomorrow.
Do you think the rest of Europe should have copied our plan the last 12 months. Strong on vaccine light on restrictions that don't do much equals less deathsQuote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
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Testing is still free for symptomatic old and vulnerableQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
We should be clear - the pandemic is not over.
There may be significant resurgences, scientists certain there will be new variants and it's possible they may be worse than Omicron.
Ahh ok thanks I have been working all day so not across a lot of today's update - I just thought the post I quoted was suggesting that wasn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
In that case I'm not seeing anything from today's update that I disagree with.
I’d be hugely surprised if each lateral flow test cost any less than £10 to process end to end, PCRs significantly more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Just have a look at what these same lateral flow tests cost for travel. The government aren’t going to have got some spectacular deal that makes them dirt cheap.
Not impressed. I'm all for trying to get back to normal and ending restrictions but ending testing and charging for it.....
We have lost family and friends to this ducking disease. One of them being a single mother in her 40s who left her son behind. She had no illnesses and was relatively fit for her age. I myself have had covid and ended up pretty unwell with breathing difficulties. Im early 40s with no known medical conditions. Thousands of people still testing positive everday but lets just stop testing. You all might agree with it but not me. Sure end restrictions, lets try and get back to as normal as we can. Stopping testing though, not for me.
'living with covid' in really just ignoring its existed right?Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
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Don’t think I even disagree with you but I suppose the flip side of it is do we do this level of testing forever? If not, when do we stop? Everyones vaccinated and pretty much everyone even boosted now, so it’s not the same as before when we had lots of people dying of the virus whilst everyone was locked at home. Assuming that everyone accepts the testing at the current scale can’t go on forever, when would it be reasonable for it to stop?Quote:
Originally Posted by DH1875
No, they are available but I would prefer the free asymptomatic lfd's still available for a further period. Vulnerable people can still pick up an infection that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Yea it's possible, nobody in their right mind would say that's impossible. Any of the viruses we know of could mutate but what's the probability according to the scientists?
We will never get over it and will never forget RIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Im not saying not to scale it back a bit but to basically cut it altogether and then charge for it.....its way to soon for that as far as im concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibsGW
Got you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
Yeah I'd probably agree with that too.
I was using slight exaggeration for effect. £2b in a month is about £30 for every man woman and child in the UK. I don't believe they've spent that, and if they have, I don't believe they've spent it effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
There's a huge amount, a huge amount of super profit built into the pricing of tests for travel. Some of the Tory friends and family have seen these mandatory tests as a licence to print money. A lot of Tory donors are making themselves very rich on the proceeds of Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibsGW
Breaking: The British Medical Association,
@TheBMA
, says removing all restrictions, testing, sick pay and isolation payments in England is "premature", "incredibly concerning" and "completely illogical", adding that it "neglects" and "fails" those most at risk from Covid-19.
Hmmm, who to trust - the BMA or the lunatic fringe of the Tory party?Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
This could prove to be a particularly dangerous time in world history to have a government as atrocious as the one we have currently.
Even at a tenner and on average 50% of sent tests being inputted as estimated, that would be £600,000,000 a month just on lfts. I agree it's not money well spent, although it was last year. Looking at the German and French lft budgets it matches our price with the scale we have been doingQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It would still give them free to the vulnerable asymptomatic, although glad to hear they will be further boosted in spring.
Have to remember we aren't going from 100% isolating to 0%. As ons estimate only 40% of positive cases each day are caught, so 60% don't isolate just now. Also of the 40% a fifth say they don't fully isolate.
Hopefully symptomatic people isolate, also if the have flu ect. The biggest disgrace is a decent statutory sick pay didn't come out of this
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
... and Carer's Allowance.
Let see what Scotland do in reposnse to thisQuote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
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BMA said we shouldn't fully open last July and England shouldn't fully open 5 weeks ago, glad they didn't listen to themQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
The government are hopeless, but vaccines meant they could open fully with less deaths per head than all the big European neighbours the last year
Yeah, what do they know? BMA? The professional body representing doctors in the UK? Glad we didn't listen to doctors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7