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What did you think of his threatening behaviour towards women. He’s a big guy behaving aggressively and is as ideologically motivated as the women who oppose his views.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I would urge anyone interested to look at what the article says and watch the footage. If that was directed at another group, it would surely be a “hate crime”? Appalling behaviour.
Yip.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
According to Wings, she has now been suspended by the SNP.
It's all very complex, but that's something that puts me off someone's opinions/thoughts from the get go. Deliberately giving someone the wrong pronoun in an attempt to make some sort of point. Adds nothing to the debate and shows the author up as classless.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I think that is the whole point. He is a man, end of.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
What was classless was the guy's intimidation tactics at a protest. Running up to someone, much smaller than yourself, and screaming witch in their face is appalling.
We have to also consider the language used in terms of hate crime, as well as aggression and intimidation. The very argument used by proponents of gender self identification should also apply here. Calling a woman a witch in this context is a very loaded comment in the context of feminist protest and is at the very least indicative of the guys underlying misogyny.
Women are getting a raw deal right now
@antibarbie
Fringe venue
@Gildedballoon
made one toilet “cubicles and urinals” and another “gender neutral”, so in effect doubling the male provision. I was faced with an actual man, not a trans identifying one, just an entitled one, coming out of cubicle the “GN” one. As victim of SA these facilities make me feel unsafe, but I’m expected to end my boundaries where male feelings begin.
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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I've left out the first part of your comment... as it's not for me to say one way or the other... but I totally agree with the rest of it.
If this person wants to reduce the amount of unacceptable and discriminatory behaviour, they might want to start by looking in a mirror.
On a slightly more political note: What were the SNP thinking when they employed this person?
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Maybe I've mistaken something here, but I think she wishes to referred to as "she" - that's the point. Deliberately going against those wishes is unnecessary and poor behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I'm not talking about the actual incident.
Bit silly from the GB. There are gender-neutral, or all-gender, toilets in the Queen's Hall, Summerhall, Pleasance and Burrell Collection. These are places I've been in recently, so can't say if this is widespread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Do these places also have male and female only toilets. It's OK having neutral toilets but not if it's at the price of female toiletsQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Most of them have those facilities as permanent, with no separate M/F ones. The only difference is that the Pleasance also has a temporary portaloo, with M/F. Presumably that will get removed after the Festival, leaving the permanent neutral ones for the students etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Edit. Actually, the Burrell has 3 separate facilities. Male, female and all-genders.
The Pleasance has male and female too. There is very few neutral toilets in the unis 800+ buildings. All new builds will be going with male female and neutral, which is probably rightQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It's a very loaded issue, particularly when you are an activist? Maybe less so when you are Joe or Jo Bloggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
I wonder, if a white skinned person, started calling themselves black, whilst accusing others of discrimination because they see and point out the obvious (that they are not) is their view the only thing that matters?
Not sure if that's a useful analogy, but it springs to mind.
There's a lot at stake here. Earlier in this thread I posted about Edinburgh Rape Crisis and intrusion of a man (who self identifies as a woman) into that service, which is a protected safe space for women. That "safe space" issue takes precedence over an individuals right to assert their self identification in my view. It's close to my heart and has had a direct impact on someone I know.
I'm all for people being able to undergo gender reassignment surgery, with the appropriate provisos and checks etc. However, I'm intolerant of aggressive misogyny and the undermining of women's rights.
Can't say I saw any M/F ones. My weak bladder means I have been in a few different ones 😁..at least 3 locations in the Courtyard area. Happy to be corrected about the wider area, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Agreed about the new builds.
Sorry speaking about inside. There's alot of work retrofitting toilets to be unisex on campuses. They are really good. Each cubicle has toilet, sink handryer so safety isn't an issue, not that it probably ever was.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Good to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I'm a big fan of cultural changes being slow and natural, so that society has a chance to adjust. That process often starts with younger people, and what you describe fits in with that.
https://wingsoverscotland.com/home-of-the-deranged/Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Adamson sounds like a bona fide nut job.
This is all very similar to the trans activists who formed a circle round the Emmeline Pankhurst statue in Manchester this year to prevent women from gathering there, when masked men who would claim to be on the 'right side of history' were screaming fascist **** and ****ing TERF's at the mainly middle aged women. Highlighting the deep misogyny that exists within the trans movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
It is easy to see why the trans activists have real hatred towards women who stand up for women's sex based rights, it's because this highlights the fact that there are only two sexes men and women and that biological sex is real, so women's spaces needs to be protected so that men can't enter.
It seems like the only thing trans activists campaign for with the tired old manta transwomen are women is for the rights of men who identify as women to enter women's spaces this could be women's sport, women's changing rooms, women's prisons, rape crisis center's or women's toilets. This highlights the conflict between women's sex based rights and trans rights.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/n...lpga-tour-card
Judy Murray gets the JK Rowling treatment for expressing a perfectly reasonable view.
Ridiculous. Golf is up there with one of the sports that will clearly benefit from someone going through male puberty. A shame on the female that loses a tour card because of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I'm **** at golf, I'm sure JK would beat me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Well am sure she plays with magical balls... 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Is golf not a game of skill rather than strength?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Quidditch anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
No. Hence although some have tried like Annika Sorenstamand Michelle wie, to make the cut in a few male tournaments they have never managed. Men drive much further due to obvious strength difference. Male tournaments are open so why don't trans athletes try to compete in that. Probably because they wouldn't be able to make it, so take a place of a female to be professionalQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
You do realise that Hailey Davidson also failed to get through the third round against women? She wasn't in the top 106!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Davidson shot a +3 over three rounds at the Stage I qualifier at Mission Hills Country Club in Rancho Mirage, Calif. The cut was -2. 106 female golfers shot -2 or better, each of them at least 5 strokes better than Davidson.
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So while people are yelling about trans athletes taking spots away from other women, it was the cisgender women themselves who voted to allow trans athletes in the LPGA.
And it's not all about distance, all the advances in golf balls and clubs have made the game of golf rediculously easy to get distance, just as well skill is involved as well.
She's through to the qualifier tour and will get a tour place is she finishes high enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
And if you are saying you think males don't have an advantage playing golf, then I believe you are saying something you don't believe is true just to prove a point frankly.
Makes you wonder why top female golfers don't compete on the far more lucrative men's tour?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I think the answer is that they either aren't good enough or that a man's natural strength gives them a massive advantage.
Aye thats why there’s tees for men and tees for females…you’re thinking of dartsQuote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Along with ageism and sexism…after all she’s “only Andy’s old mum” what right has she to comment on this…Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!