Angel Sports Bar

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

That's insane.

The centre of Edinburgh is quickly becoming a place only tourists go out for a drink.

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I drink up town, there's 5 bars where my friends are I are regulars, we get various discounts in each one.

But, yeah, some prices are ridiculous. That Guinness 'shortage' a few months ago was I'm sure a publicity stunt and an excuse for some to ramp up the price. It was £8.50 for a non discounted pint in one of the bars I drink in. It soon came down in price when folk stopped drinking it or went elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Jack

I drink up town, there's 5 bars where my friends are I are regulars, we get various discounts in each one.

But, yeah, some prices are ridiculous. That Guinness 'shortage' a few months ago was I'm sure a publicity stunt and an excuse for some to ramp up the price. It was £8.50 for a non discounted pint in one of the bars I drink in. It soon came down in price when folk stopped drinking it or went elsewhere.

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It wasn't a publicity stunt, it cost Diageo millions. Guinness sales in the UK are up about 20% year on year, that's definitely bourn out in my pub. Never seen demand like it, especially from the young team (and young females in particular). Splitting the G has a lot to answer for. They simply couldn't cope with demand in the build up to Christmas and the 6 Nations. Guinness Zero is also selling ridiculously well .

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Not related to the pub in the thread title but I was in Finnegan's Wake last night (not my choice, someone's birthday).

A pint of Neck Oil was £8.35. Eight pounds and thirty five pence. I suppose it's inevitable, as soon as the £7 barrier was reached, breached and accepted then £8 was always going to be next. I was mildly miffed about paying £6.55 for a Tennents so **** knows what anyone drinking the Neck Oil was thinking.

We can't be far away from the tenner pint. I wonder if psychologically that will be the final straw for a lot of people. I sympathise with publicans (although I struggle to justify £8.35) because I deal with them everyday but there must come a tipping point eventually.

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Crazy prices, even for Tennents. I think pubs use it as a bench-marker with their being a wide-spread aversion to it.

The tipping point has been reached for me already. We had a great day out on Leith Walk outside Robbies after the game, we just went over the road and bought a case of cans every half an hour or so. It was cheaper and quicker than getting served in the pubs and had a great time.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Not related to the pub in the thread title but I was in Finnegan's Wake last night (not my choice, someone's birthday).

A pint of Neck Oil was £8.35. Eight pounds and thirty five pence. I suppose it's inevitable, as soon as the £7 barrier was reached, breached and accepted then £8 was always going to be next. I was mildly miffed about paying £6.55 for a Tennents so **** knows what anyone drinking the Neck Oil was thinking.

We can't be far away from the tenner pint. I wonder if psychologically that will be the final straw for a lot of people. I sympathise with publicans (although I struggle to justify £8.35) because I deal with them everyday but there must come a tipping point eventually.

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Was at the darts in Aberdeen on Thursday night and P&J venue were charging around £8.95 for a pint of moretti.

I can't think what the justification is for the prices in Edinburgh. The centre of Edinburgh genuinely is more expensive for a pint than London, where you'd imagine rents are higher and staff costs are also higher. Glasgow you'll probably pay about £4.50 ish for a Tennents.

A lot of these venues in central Edinburgh don't even have Sky Sports/TNT so it's not as if that's a cost they are having to cover. In some cases it does seem like blatant profiteering.

I'm pretty sure the Scotsman Lounge is about 7 quid for a Strongbow. I was charged £7 for a bottle, a 330ml bottle, of Heineken recently in a bar in the town! If you buying that as a round of 4, then that's obviously nearly £30 for 4 330ml bottles of beer.

I'm not a massive fan of Wetherspoons as they're not really my idea of what a pub should be, but when you see the prices they charge you can see why they're popular.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

I can't think what the justification is for the prices in Edinburgh. The centre of Edinburgh genuinely is more expensive for a pint than London, where you'd imagine rents are higher and staff costs are also higher. Glasgow you'll probably pay about £4.50 ish for a Tennents.

A lot of these venues in central Edinburgh don't even have Sky Sports/TNT so it's not as if that's a cost they are having to cover. In some cases it does seem like blatant profiteering.

I'm pretty sure the Scotsman Lounge is about 7 quid for a Strongbow. I was charged £7 for a bottle, a 330ml bottle, of Heineken recently in a bar in the town! If you buying that as a round of 4, then that's obviously nearly £30 for 4 330ml bottles of beer.

I'm not a massive fan of Wetherspoons as they're not really my idea of what a pub should be, but when you see the prices they charge you can see why they're popular.

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Sad fact is, the justification is the continually rising costs of running a business and it’s what’s required to make ends meet.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Sad fact is, the justification is the continually rising costs of running a business and it’s what’s required to make ends meet.

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Surely though Edinburgh pubs are not unique in that regard?

Every single pub across the country has the same challenges, yet in Edinburgh you've got bars charging £8 for a pint or £7 for a small bottle of beer.

Part of the issue is also you don't know the price of the pint until it's ordered and poured, you're then kind of obliged to pay it.

I actually wouldn't mind Edinburgh Council implementing a policy where the price of the product is confirmed at the time of ordering prior to pouring, so if you get some place is charging 8 quid a pint the punter can refuse and walk out the door if they don't feel like paying that.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

That's insane.

The centre of Edinburgh is quickly becoming a place only tourists go out for a drink.

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That's why I'm prepared to put up with the idiosyncrasies of Angel, £2.80 for Strongbow, most other prices great too.

£8.35 for a pint in Edinburgh is insane. I paid £7.50 for a pint of Neck Oil in The Hereford in Chelsea last year and sucked it up cause of where it was.

On topic, you’ll never have a colours ban in Robbie’s, a pint is around a fiver and the sport is always on.

Have heard that Management of The Angel are having a rethink regarding the football colours ban.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Not related to the pub in the thread title but I was in Finnegan's Wake last night (not my choice, someone's birthday).

A pint of Neck Oil was £8.35. Eight pounds and thirty five pence. I suppose it's inevitable, as soon as the £7 barrier was reached, breached and accepted then £8 was always going to be next. I was mildly miffed about paying £6.55 for a Tennents so **** knows what anyone drinking the Neck Oil was thinking.

We can't be far away from the tenner pint. I wonder if psychologically that will be the final straw for a lot of people. I sympathise with publicans (although I struggle to justify £8.35) because I deal with them everyday but there must come a tipping point eventually.

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Neck Oil has become notoriously expensive but that is too much, as is the price for a T.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Surely though Edinburgh pubs are not unique in that regard?

Every single pub across the country has the same challenges, yet in Edinburgh you've got bars charging £8 for a pint or £7 for a small bottle of beer.

Part of the issue is also you don't know the price of the pint until it's ordered and poured, you're then kind of obliged to pay it.

I actually wouldn't mind Edinburgh Council implementing a policy where the price of the product is confirmed at the time of ordering prior to pouring, so if you get some place is charging 8 quid a pint the punter can refuse and walk out the door if they don't feel like paying that.

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I'm pretty sure it is already law that prices need to be 'displayed'. The problem is that they are sometimes displayed on a tiny board behind the bar that is unreadable to punters (or in a place that is unreachable when the bar is busy).

So I agree, there should be stricter rules on displaying prices.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

I can't think what the justification is for the prices in Edinburgh. The centre of Edinburgh genuinely is more expensive for a pint than London, where you'd imagine rents are higher and staff costs are also higher. Glasgow you'll probably pay about £4.50 ish for a Tennents.

A lot of these venues in central Edinburgh don't even have Sky Sports/TNT so it's not as if that's a cost they are having to cover. In some cases it does seem like blatant profiteering.

I'm pretty sure the Scotsman Lounge is about 7 quid for a Strongbow. I was charged £7 for a bottle, a 330ml bottle, of Heineken recently in a bar in the town! If you buying that as a round of 4, then that's obviously nearly £30 for 4 330ml bottles of beer.

I'm not a massive fan of Wetherspoons as they're not really my idea of what a pub should be, but when you see the prices they charge you can see why they're popular.

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Its been like that for sometime too. The last handful of times we've been in London (since covid certainly, maybe before that), we've been "pleasantly" surprised at the price of a pint in London compared to Edinburgh. When you then go to somewhere like Liverpool or Newcastle (or even Glasgow), it is eye watering how much cheaper a pint is there vs Edinburgh. Only place I've thought that was on a par was Belfast.

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Originally Posted by overdrive

Its been like that for sometime too. The last handful of times we've been in London (since covid certainly, maybe before that), we've been "pleasantly" surprised at the price of a pint in London compared to Edinburgh. When you then go to somewhere like Liverpool or Newcastle (or even Glasgow), it is eye watering how much cheaper a pint is there vs Edinburgh. Only place I've thought that was on a par was Belfast.

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I even found Dublin which is notoriously expensive to be favourable to Edinburgh when I was over with work lately.

Obviously the tourist traps of Temple Bar, Brazen Head etc are ridiculous but other city centre boozers were about €7.50-7.80 for a Guinness which is about £6.50-6.70. Iirc we went to the Lark Inn on Meath Street which was still doing Guinness for €5.50 and Beamish for under a fiver.

Cask and Barrel Southside Tennents lager £3.50

No commentary tonight again 🥴

I said to the guy behind the bar that it's strange behaviour for a sports bar, he said it's not a Sports bar, beginning to think he has a point 🤭

2 bar staff on, about 50 students just turned up, mayhem ensues. 🤭

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

No commentary tonight again 🥴

I said to the guy behind the bar that it's strange behaviour for a sports bar, he said it's not a Sports bar, beginning to think he has a point 🤭

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He needs to tell whoever is in charge of their social media accounts then. I'll say it again, amateurs.

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

He needs to tell whoever is in charge of their social media accounts then. I'll say it again, amateurs.

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Without a doubt. The uni kids seem to have discovered the prices, a mass invasion occurred tonight.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Not related to the pub in the thread title but I was in Finnegan's Wake last night (not my choice, someone's birthday).

A pint of Neck Oil was £8.35. Eight pounds and thirty five pence. I suppose it's inevitable, as soon as the £7 barrier was reached, breached and accepted then £8 was always going to be next. I was mildly miffed about paying £6.55 for a Tennents so **** knows what anyone drinking the Neck Oil was thinking.

We can't be far away from the tenner pint. I wonder if psychologically that will be the final straw for a lot of people. I sympathise with publicans (although I struggle to justify £8.35) because I deal with them everyday but there must come a tipping point eventually.

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That is absolutely nuts.

I’m fairly regularly in London and it’s nowhere near as expensive as Edinburgh for a drink and at worst it’s similar to Edinburgh for food, but again, potentially cheaper.

I was in The Devonshire, middle of SoHo, total social media craze surrounding it and it was £6.90 for a Guinness. Every single drink I had in Islington, Shoreditch, SoHo was cheaper than what I’d expect to pay in Edinburgh city centre, often by a considerable margin.

My local is £5 for a Tennents now, which is expensive but I can accept it for what is a great pint in a great pub in a nice area. The city centre prices are scandalous.

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That is absolutely nuts.

I’m fairly regularly in London and it’s nowhere near as expensive as Edinburgh for a drink and at worst it’s similar to Edinburgh for food, but again, potentially cheaper.

I was in The Devonshire, middle of SoHo, total social media craze surrounding it and it was £6.90 for a Guinness. Every single drink I had in Islington, Shoreditch, SoHo was cheaper than what I’d expect to pay in Edinburgh city centre, often by a considerable margin.

My local is £5 for a Tennents now, which is expensive but I can accept it for what is a great pint in a great pub in a nice area. The city centre prices are scandalous.

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I think the theory that Edinburgh pubs need to charge these prices to stay afloat is somewhat disproven when it's more expensive than London.

It's basically ripping the social heart of the city centre out, leaving it filled with tourists and few locals. The businesses won't care though as long as they are lining their pockets.

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

That is absolutely nuts.

I’m fairly regularly in London and it’s nowhere near as expensive as Edinburgh for a drink and at worst it’s similar to Edinburgh for food, but again, potentially cheaper.

I was in The Devonshire, middle of SoHo, total social media craze surrounding it and it was £6.90 for a Guinness. Every single drink I had in Islington, Shoreditch, SoHo was cheaper than what I’d expect to pay in Edinburgh city centre, often by a considerable margin.

My local is £5 for a Tennents now, which is expensive but I can accept it for what is a great pint in a great pub in a nice area. The city centre prices are scandalous.

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The Devonshire is an absolute *****hole to be honest. Last time I was in it was filthy, tables looked like they hadn’t ben cleaned or cleared in hours, bogs like something out of Trainspotting and hardly any staff o so the wait to get served was a joke. Maybe they should up their prices and employ more staff…..

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

The Devonshire is an absolute *****hole to be honest. Last time I was in it was filthy, tables looked like they hadn’t ben cleaned or cleared in hours, bogs like something out of Trainspotting and hardly any staff o so the wait to get served was a joke. Maybe they should up their prices and employ more staff…..

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I wasn’t massively fussed either way for it but I don’t have any real complaints either. Got served within about 2 minutes, seemed clean enough and never used the bogs :greengrin

Continuing the price of a pint discussion, I was in London last week for a gig. Had a few drinks around Soho in the afternoon. Prices ranged from £6 in a couple of Greeneking pubs (they are EVERYWHERE) to well over £7 in independent type venues which were IMO, far better. In Brixton I (reluctantly) visited a Spoons, which was under £4 a pint and advertising £1.99 pints on Mondays (wtf) The very nice bar over the road, Canova Hall, was well over £7 a pint. I would far rather pay their prices than give Spoons my money.

I pay £5.20 for a superb pint of 80’ in my local, never as good anywhere else.

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

Continuing the price of a pint discussion, I was in London last week for a gig. Had a few drinks around Soho in the afternoon. Prices ranged from £6 in a couple of Greeneking pubs (they are EVERYWHERE) to well over £7 in independent type venues which were IMO, far better. In Brixton I (reluctantly) visited a Spoons, which was under £4 a pint and advertising £1.99 pints on Mondays (wtf) The very nice bar over the road, Canova Hall, was well over £7 a pint. I would far rather pay their prices than give Spoons my money.

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So basically Edinburgh prices are now on par with London, where rents are higher, staff costs are higher and the average wage for the punter purchasing is higher?

They finally had the commentary on last night. 🍺

I popped into the old Torino last Saturday afternoon. Now re-opened as Oliver’s. £4.50 for a Tennents. All new decor and seats. Green wallpaper, green ceiling, green seats inside and in the beer garden. All a bit too green to be honest and made the place appear a little dark. Pool table has gone but they still have multiple tv’s showing sports. Still wasn’t bad though.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

So basically Edinburgh prices are now on par with London, where rents are higher, staff costs are higher and the average wage for the punter purchasing is higher?

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Kind of depends on the venue, what’s on offer etc. You’re not just paying for the liquid in the glass in many venues. Do they have Sky, live music, lots of staff working compared to minimum numbers you see in Spoons and the likes, are they paying more than NMW, the skill set of the staff, the fixtures & fittings, the rent & rates in a location, security staff, the cost price of the product from their suppliers…….lots of factors contribute to the price of a pint.

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

They finally had the commentary on last night. 🍺

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So are they a sports bar again? :wink: