Josh Campbell

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Do you think managers are infallible?

There have been plenty examples in recent years of Hibs managers thinking players can play in positions they clearly aren’t suited to.

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David is yes.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Do you think managers are infallible?

There have been plenty examples in recent years of Hibs managers thinking players can play in positions they clearly aren’t suited to.

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:agree:

David gray could say he can play a 6, even Pep Guardiola could say it. He can’t though, much like Rocky Bushiri couldn’t play as a 9.

I don’t think he’s good enough full stop, but if he plays, it has to be as a 10.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

Do you think managers are infallible?

There have been plenty examples in recent years of Hibs managers thinking players can play in positions they clearly aren’t suited to.

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Watching Campbell for the duaratuon of his time at the club in the first team, I’m pretty confident David Gray will have a sense of where to play him in order to get the best out of his attributes. Hell know what he needs to improve as well, and if Gray has belief that Campbell will play an integral part in his starting 11 then I’m happy to trust his judgement on that.

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

If Campbell is to be our most attack minded midfielder, he’ll need to improve a hell of a lot for me. He’s seen as a goal scoring midfielder but in over a hundred games he’s scored in 11 of them.

I accept he’s played different roles but he’s not a young laddie now so he’ll need to find some consistency if he wants to make that position his.

I think it’s a big call from Gray if Campbell is going to be a regular (which I think he will be for him).

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It’s a big call but I think it’s the correct one. We wouldn’t improve on him with a free or cheap transfer. We have money to spend but the amount required to improve on Campbell will be more efficiently used elsewhere.

Love Josh Campbell goals plenty of running bags of energy and Hibs daft just like us

Got to agree with the minority on here the young Josh looked a silky player but he returned from loan and looked a totally different player

No first touch passing terrible no awareness of what is happening round about him

I kid you not there was one game towards the end of last season he failed to find a green jersey with his first three passes either out the park or given away to the opposition

Needs to go back to basics and work on his touch and passing but has a way to go imho

Who knows we might have the next Lewis Ferguson on our hands ?

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Originally Posted by Johnny_Leith

Are these posters tearing into josh Campbell in the room with you now?

All I see if folk discussing his ability and merit for being part of the squad. Some folk, like yourself, rate him and others don't.

I think he works hard and had a knack for the odd goal - wouldn't describe him as a goalscoring midfielder - but he's a bit of a ball watcher, is a poor passer, had a poor touch and is one I'd look to move on if an offer came in.

Is that tearing into him?

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In the room with me now?👀

What you talking about? Baffling chief 😂

The poster across multiple threads saying the same over and over about Campbell is MWHIBBIES it’s quite disconcerting really going to the lengths that poster is going to run a player down.

Your opinion I also think is a bit excessive aye, and you did ask if I thought it was tearing into JC. 12 goals in 68 league appearances and 7 assists isn’t to shabby for a utility midfielder used in multiple areas of the pitch.

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Originally Posted by tonyrougier123

In the room with me now?👀

What you talking about? Baffling chief 😂

The poster across multiple threads saying the same over and over about Campbell is MWHIBBIES it’s quite disconcerting really going to the lengths that poster is going to run a player down.

Your opinion I also think is a bit excessive aye, and you did ask if I thought it was tearing into JC. 12 goals in 68 league appearances and 7 assists isn’t to shabby for a utility midfielder used in multiple areas of the pitch.

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Again, where have I insulted him? I'm just not deluded about his ability. All anyone says is he scores goals and works hard. That's it. I agree with that.

Can I ask why you never compliment his long and short passing, awareness, positional discipline, dribbling etc? It is because he isn't very good at those things?

He's a decent player, better than he was, and does his bit. He isn't as good as Newell and he'll never play 6 in a decent team. Those aren't outlandish statements. More stating obvious facts.

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Originally Posted by tonyrougier123

In the room with me now?👀

What you talking about? Baffling chief 😂

The poster across multiple threads saying the same over and over about Campbell is MWHIBBIES it’s quite disconcerting really going to the lengths that poster is going to run a player down.

Your opinion I also think is a bit excessive aye, and you did ask if I thought it was tearing into JC. 12 goals in 68 league appearances and 7 assists isn’t to shabby for a utility midfielder used in multiple areas of the pitch.

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It's a light-hearted way of pointing out there's nobody on this thread tearing into him saying things like: he's ****ing *****. Couldn't kick his own arse. He's a east if Scotland player. Stuff like that I'd agree is tearing into him. Discussing his strengths and weaknesses like people have in this thread is debating and discussing, at most.

Id suggest blocking any posters you vehemently disagree with, it'll make your life easier.

He's an eye for a goal, needs to be more consistent in his goalscoring to make himself more valuable whilst improving his all round game on the ball, along with his concentration levels. When he's not scoring he doesn't contribute enough imo.

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Love Josh Campbell goals plenty of running bags of energy and Hibs daft just like us

Got to agree with the minority on here the young Josh looked a silky player but he returned from loan and looked a totally different player

No first touch passing terrible no awareness of what is happening round about him

I kid you not there was one game towards the end of last season he failed to find a green jersey with his first three passes either out the park or given away to the opposition

Needs to go back to basics and work on his touch and passing but has a way to go imho

Who knows we might have the next Lewis Ferguson on our hands ?

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Pretty sure the game in question was the one at Motherwell.

And was that not his first game back after an age out injured? Could he have been forgiven for being rusty, as sloppy a performance as it was?

Re his scoring record… it must surely be pretty good per minute on the pitch in an advanced position, no? Loads of his appearances will have been off the bench, the odd one at RB, the odd one deeper in midfield etc.

I actually really quite like him in the 10 position and feel that when he plays there we have someone capable of getting close to and beyond the striker.

My issue with him as well is the consistency issue - like others, he has an ability to drop in an absolutely minging performance out of nowhere, such as the start of last season under Johnson - he was all over the shop against St Mirren. When you have both him and Newell in midfield you can have genuine concerns about what happens almost based on what side of bed a couple of key players get out of. And when they play, they are key players.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Pretty sure the game in question was the one at Motherwell.

And was that not his first game back after an age out injured? Could he have been forgiven for being rusty, as sloppy a performance as it was?

Re his scoring record… it must surely be pretty good per minute on the pitch in an advanced position, no? Loads of his appearances will have been off the bench, the odd one at RB, the odd one deeper in midfield etc.

I actually really quite like him in the 10 position and feel that when he plays there we have someone capable of getting close to and beyond the striker.

My issue with him as well is the consistency issue - like others, he has an ability to drop in an absolutely minging performance out of nowhere, such as the start of last season under Johnson - he was all over the shop against St Mirren. When you have both him and Newell in midfield you can have genuine concerns about what happens almost based on what side of bed a couple of key players get out of. And when they play, they are key players.

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:agree: There is areas JC needs to improve on for sure but his goalscoring isn’t one them, his record is very respectable considering he hasn’t always played in an advanced role.

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Originally Posted by CentreForward

The EEN article suggests that he will be a number 10. It also talks in the headline about a new forward and a marquee signing but then nothing mentioned about that in the actual
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Did you read the whole article? Both discussed towards the end.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Pretty sure the game in question was the one at Motherwell.

And was that not his first game back after an age out injured? Could he have been forgiven for being rusty, as sloppy a performance as it was?

Re his scoring record… it must surely be pretty good per minute on the pitch in an advanced position, no? Loads of his appearances will have been off the bench, the odd one at RB, the odd one deeper in midfield etc.

I actually really quite like him in the 10 position and feel that when he plays there we have someone capable of getting close to and beyond the striker.

My issue with him as well is the consistency issue - like others, he has an ability to drop in an absolutely minging performance out of nowhere, such as the start of last season under Johnson - he was all over the shop against St Mirren. When you have both him and Newell in midfield you can have genuine concerns about what happens almost based on what side of bed a couple of key players get out of. And when they play, they are key players.

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Don’t have an issue with his goalscoring 15:105

My issue is his ball control touch and passing in general expect better from a professional out for a period or not

I am not seeing what SDG is seeing but happy to be proved wrong

I like Josh love his energy and attitude

Squad player

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Love Josh Campbell goals plenty of running bags of energy and Hibs daft just like us

Got to agree with the minority on here the young Josh looked a silky player but he returned from loan and looked a totally different player

No first touch passing terrible no awareness of what is happening round about him

I kid you not there was one game towards the end of last season he failed to find a green jersey with his first three passes either out the park or given away to the opposition

Needs to go back to basics and work on his touch and passing but has a way to go imho

Who knows we might have the next Lewis Ferguson on our hands ?

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Josh Campbell had never played a first team game for Hibs until after all his loans?

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

Josh Campbell had never played a first team game for Hibs until after all his loans?

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Could swear I saw him Stirling Albion away and Alloa home in the League Cup before going out on loan 2019

Might have imagined it as I said looked like a different player

Got the programmes in the hoose :greengrin

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Could swear I saw him Stirling Albion away and Alloa home in the League Cup before going out on loan 2019

Might have imagined it as I said looked like a different player

Got the programmes in the hoose :greengrin

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You are correct, he played a couple of league cup group games under Hecky before he went on loan to Arbroath then he went on loan again during the Covid season to Edinburgh City.

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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

You are correct, he played a couple of league cup group games under Hecky before he went on loan to Arbroath then he went on loan again during the Covid season to Edinburgh City.

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Looked like a Kevin Thomson type Stirling away got hooked at half time v Alloa

Friends who are Edinburgh City fans said he was decent and chipped in with a few goals

Monty was called a dinosaur for his 4-4-2 and her we are with gray talking about no 6, 8 and 10

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Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS

Could swear I saw him Stirling Albion away and Alloa home in the League Cup before going out on loan 2019

Might have imagined it as I said looked like a different player

Got the programmes in the hoose :greengrin

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Sorry, you were correct. :aok:

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Originally Posted by Skol

Monty was called a dinosaur for his 4-4-2 and her we are with gray talking about no 6, 8 and 10

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A 6, 8 and 10 are generally not part of a 4-4-2 imo.

If someone talks about a 6 and an 8 then I think of that as a holding midfielder and a box to box. A 10 is an attacking midfielder.

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

A 6, 8 and 10 are generally not part of a 4-4-2 imo.

If someone talks about a 6 and an 8 then I think of that as a holding midfielder and a box to box. A 10 is an attacking midfielder.

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They are part of a 4-4-2 diamond. Just don’t think we’ll be playing that. It’ll be a middle three

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

A 6, 8 and 10 are generally not part of a 4-4-2 imo.

If someone talks about a 6 and an 8 then I think of that as a holding midfielder and a box to box. A 10 is an attacking midfielder.

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To me they are part of a 2-3-5 set up. Something I don’t thin’ I have ever seen played.

David gray has Said he has a plan A,B,C,D.,

Don’t think there is any set formation

Campbell is an attacking midfielder who could also play as a more withdrawn second striker. What number you allocate is irrelevant. He is a 32 iirc.

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

Sorry, you were correct. :aok:

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

A 6, 8 and 10 are generally not part of a 4-4-2 imo.

If someone talks about a 6 and an 8 then I think of that as a holding midfielder and a box to box. A 10 is an attacking midfielder.

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Can play a 6 with two 8s and a 10 in a diamond formation. It's how you use your 10

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Originally Posted by JohnM1875

They are part of a 4-4-2 diamond. Just don’t think we’ll be playing that. It’ll be a middle three

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Yeah that’s fair. In my head that would be a 6, two 8s and a 10.

If we’re talking about a 6, an 8 (rather than plural 8s) and a 10 though, then that to me is a midfield 3.

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Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2

Yeah that’s fair. In my head that would be a 6, two 8s and a 10.

If we’re talking about a 6, an 8 (rather than plural 8s) and a 10 though, then that to me is a midfield 3.

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And two 9s up front and dont bother with a 7 or an 11?

I think Josh Campbell has some great attributes for the modern game. However, I think he’s a poor passer of the ball and has little football intelligence. Hopefully those aspects of his game have been worked on pre-season as he’d be a different level of player for it. Hopefully will see improvement in the new season.

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Originally Posted by Skol

And two 9s up front and dont bother with a 7 or an 11?

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To be fair, I’ve no counter argument to your point :greengrin

In my head, those positions when you describe them as numbers are:

6 = DM
8 = box to box CM
10 = AM

But yes, as a 4-4-2, I suppose a 10 would be part of the 2. It’s a completely outdated system though, so I always think of a 10 as being a midfielder nowadays.

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Originally Posted by tamig

I think Josh Campbell has some great attributes for the modern game. However, I think he’s a poor passer of the ball and has little football intelligence. Hopefully those aspects of his game have been worked on pre-season as he’d be a different level of player for it. Hopefully will see improvement in the new season.

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I think Campbell is underrated by fans tbh , good player imo who's workrate is excellent and can score goals . He seems to get himself into good goalscoring positions which I think shows his football intelligence isn't bad .

As to the 4-2-3-1 formation I think it's quite flexible though with two DM played in it I do wonder if we sign a midfielder would it be another DM...

https://www.coachbetter.com/blog/fun...alanced%20well.