View from the East

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Originally Posted by wookie70

I'm front row of west upper too. Massive amounts of legroom but the safety bar is a bit of a pain. The view is fantastic the row behind but the legroom very poor

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Aye, my ST seat in row AA block 12 is brilliant for the view and leg room and I will never swap (unless I manage to afford a black front row seat above the halfway line). My experience in row BB for the cup tie was in a row of just 9/10 seats in block 12 with their backs to a wall which is part of the exit/entrance of the stairway to the concourse. This was the first and last time I will sit in that particular row. The leg room there is pure agony.
I spent a few seasons in FF Upper as soon as it was built but that was purely for the family ST deal. I have to agree with other posters who say that side-on viewing is far better for following a match. Behind the goals you have to sit, back row, at the top to see enough of the pitch, and up the top is too far away IMO. Not really a cause for discussion or argument as it seems to be just personal preferences.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I hate watching football from side on.

Only place I will do it willfully is Hampden because of how far away the seats behind the goals are. As you say so much easier to see play develop when watching from behind the goals, particularly when high up.

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Really? You get no depth perception. If it was a good way to watch football the coaches would be at the ends. :greengrin. Ive honestly never heard people say they'd rather watch from behind the goals.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

Really? You get no depth perception. If it was a good way to watch football the coaches would be at the ends. :greengrin. Ive honestly never heard people say they'd rather watch from behind the goals.

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Based on that logic, the best view in the ground must be from pitch level, otherwise the coaches would be higher up.

As mentioned above, it's down to trade-offs and personal preference. You do get a better view of team shape and possible forward progression from behind the goal (as long as you're high enough), but the flattened perspective in the opposite half is too much for me, so I strongly prefer sitting at the side of the pitch. It's not as simple as one being inherently better for everyone though.

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

Based on that logic, the best view in the ground must be from pitch level, otherwise the coaches would be higher up.

As mentioned above, it's down to trade-offs and personal preference. You do get a better view of team shape and possible forward progression from behind the goal (as long as you're high enough), but the flattened perspective in the opposite half is too much for me, so I strongly prefer sitting at the side of the pitch. It's not as simple as one being inherently better for everyone though.

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Side on gives a much better view of everything going on. Almost all Camera work comes from there, VAR comes from there, coaches watch from there (wether pitch side or in the stand), executive seating is placed there, scouts watch from there. Goal stand seating is cheaper in every ground in the country and thats the reason why.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

Side on gives a much better view of everything going on. Almost all Camera work comes from there, VAR comes from there, coaches watch from there (wether pitch side or in the stand), executive seating is placed there, scouts watch from there. Goal stand seating is cheaper in every ground in the country and thats the reason why.

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I agree (as I said, I strongly prefer sitting at the side).

But that doesn't mean there are no advantages at all to the view from behind the goal and surely it's not hard to believe that some people prefer it.

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

I agree (as I said, I strongly prefer sitting at the side).

But that doesn't mean there are no advantages at all to the view from behind the goal and surely it's not hard to believe that some people prefer it.

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Hibs seem to have cameras in the south stand (in the windowed areas), which I assume are for recording matches for analysis purposes. I guess side and front on views offer different perspectives.

On a personal note, I liked the view from the West upper, it somehow seemed closer to the play than where we sit in the East (W). Angle of the stand is different.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Hibs seem to have cameras in the south stand (in the windowed areas), which I assume are for recording matches for analysis purposes. I guess side and front on views offer different perspectives.

On a personal note, I liked the view from the West upper, it somehow seemed closer to the play than where we sit in the East (W). Angle of the stand is different.

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The bit where the black sheet cover the seats in front of the window? That’s the police control room I’m sure

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Hibs seem to have cameras in the south stand (in the windowed areas), which I assume are for recording matches for analysis purposes. I guess side and front on views offer different perspectives.

On a personal note, I liked the view from the West upper, it somehow seemed closer to the play than where we sit in the East (W). Angle of the stand is different.

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The bit where the black sheet cover the seats in front of the window? That’s the police control room I’m sure

Also on your second point is the West not closer to the pitch than the East? My season ticket seat is in the East but I sat behind the away dugout on Wednesday night and the run off area at the side of the pitch seems like nothing in comparison on the east side

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Originally Posted by .Sean.

The bit where the black sheet cover the seats in front of the window? That’s the police control room I’m sure

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Did wonder about that too. Do they use the security cameras in the ground to monitor what's going on?

I'm not sure about the west being closer to the pitch, it may well be. I had a season in the west lower a good few years ago, but have rarely sat in the upper, so it's fairly unfamiliar to me. I liked the quick escape as well.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Hibs seem to have cameras in the south stand (in the windowed areas), which I assume are for recording matches for analysis purposes. I guess side and front on views offer different perspectives.

On a personal note, I liked the view from the West upper, it somehow seemed closer to the play than where we sit in the East (W). Angle of the stand is different.

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Yeah, for me the front of the West Upper is about the ideal balance of height vs distance from pitch.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Did wonder about that too. Do they use the security cameras in the ground to monitor what's going on?

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Yeah I think so. I presume the seats not being in use is so they can stare at us out the window. Excellent use of their stretched resources and Hibs also lose out versus the Old Firm and Hearts by not being able to sell those seats.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Hibs seem to have cameras in the south stand (in the windowed areas), which I assume are for recording matches for analysis purposes. I guess side and front on views offer different perspectives.

On a personal note, I liked the view from the West upper, it somehow seemed closer to the play than where we sit in the East (W). Angle of the stand is different.

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Hibs have cameras situated at the top of the stands behind the goals for tactical analysis.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

Really? You get no depth perception. If it was a good way to watch football the coaches would be at the ends. :greengrin. Ive honestly never heard people say they'd rather watch from behind the goals.

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The depth perception is a massive thing for me especially as I got older.😀

Side view for me. This should get added to the uber fan debate...

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Me and the old man had Season Tickets in the West Lower for one season, and moved because the legroom was awful. We were in section 3, second row from the back.

Because the back row was narrow as well, I'd often have to (politely) ask people sitting behind to move a bit, as their knees were sticking in my back. It wasn't their fault, as anybody reasonably tall would be struggling to sit comfortably.


What I would say, though, is that it wasn't actually as bad as Rugby Park. The rows of seats there are ridiculously narrow (and the seats are manky)

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

Yeah, for me the front of the West Upper is about the ideal balance of height vs distance from pitch.

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My ST is from row of West Upper. When sitting back in seat I can’t see anyone sat below and need to sit forward to see the first few rows. You feel right on top of the action and have a great view regardless of what way we are shooting.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

Really? You get no depth perception. If it was a good way to watch football the coaches would be at the ends. :greengrin. Ive honestly never heard people say they'd rather watch from behind the goals.

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Well, there's at least two folk on this thread alone saying it :greengrin

I agree that you lose some depth perception when the play is in the furthest away half of the pitch, but there's nowhere better to sit than the FF upper when Hibs are attacking that end.

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Well, there's at least two folk on this thread alone saying it :greengrin

I agree that you lose some depth perception when the play is in the furthest away half of the pitch, but there's nowhere better to sit than the FF upper when Hibs are attacking that end.

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I've only read one....:greengrin and I think he's just misunderstood. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Keith_M

Me and the old man had Season Tickets in the West Lower for one season, and moved because the legroom was awful. We were in section 3, second row from the back.

Because the back row was narrow as well, I'd often have to (politely) ask people sitting behind to move a bit, as their knees were sticking in my back. It wasn't their fault, as anybody reasonably tall would be struggling to sit comfortably.


What I would say, though, is that it wasn't actually as bad as Rugby Park. The rows of seats there are ridiculously narrow (and the seats are manky)

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Rugby Park and Dens - both no legroom for fans. Horrible places for it.

West Lower marginally better but not great. West Upper much comfier leg room

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Originally Posted by LewysGot2

Rugby Park and Dens - both no legroom for fans. Horrible places for it.

West Lower marginally better but not great. West Upper much comfier leg room

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The original Jerry Kerr stand seating at Tannadice when it was wooden "slat" seats. Absolutely chronic legroom and it's even commentated on in The Football Grounds of Great Britain by Simon Inglis.

Think it was refitted with plastic seats in 2010. Not sure what it's like now.

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

I agree (as I said, I strongly prefer sitting at the side).

But that doesn't mean there are no advantages at all to the view from behind the goal and surely it's not hard to believe that some people prefer it.

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IMO viewing from the behind the goals or lower down than the 5th row up in the lower side stands takes away the overall depth perception. I used to stand at the bottom of the old terracing because my pals (who gave me a lift both ways) liked it there. I never got used to it and eventually got family group ST as soon as the FF opened and went higher to the back row FF Lower and would never drop down again. As soon as the family ST was no longer needed I hot footed it to the West Upper front row and stayed there ever since.

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Originally Posted by greenlad

The original Jerry Kerr stand seating at Tannadice when it was wooden "slat" seats. Absolutely chronic legroom and it's even commentated on in The Football Grounds of Great Britain by Simon Inglis.

Think it was refitted with plastic seats in 2010. Not sure what it's like now.

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Tannadice fine compared to Dens and Killie.

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Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish

Yeah, for me the front of the West Upper is about the ideal balance of height vs distance from pitch.

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I’d still be behind the goals in my FFU seat. From there, you have a very good idea of an incoming shot from either team will be going in.

Plus I get a decent view of the top of Arthur’s Seat if the game is rubbish

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Originally Posted by Irish_Steve

I’d still be behind the goals in my FFU seat. From there, you have a very good idea of an incoming shot from either team will be going in.

Plus I get a decent view of the top of Arthur’s Seat if the game is rubbish

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Those black seats? Sat there a couple of times years ago. Well comfy and warmer on a freezing night (7-0 v Livi). Great view but still hard to see perspective at the other end maybe?

I think side on is best for watching the while match but goals looks better when you are behind the goal

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

Those black seats? Sat there a couple of times years ago. Well comfy and warmer on a freezing night (7-0 v Livi). Great view but still hard to see perspective at the other end maybe?

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Aye, those seats, a bit more expensive but certainly more comfortable! Never had a problem with perspective at the other end.

I suppose what it all boils down to if you sit in the same stand for years, then any other seat within the ground seems a bit strange

West is my favourite, had season tickets in the upper and lower.

Behind the goals in the upper tier is a decent enough view as well.

Tbh there isn’t a spot in the stadium where the view is “bad”.

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Originally Posted by Jones28

West is my favourite, had season tickets in the upper and lower.

Behind the goals in the upper tier is a decent enough view as well.

Tbh there isn’t a spot in the stadium where the view is “bad”.

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I was sat in the away side of the West Lower today but couldn't see what was happening down the touchline towards the FF. I was row L

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Originally Posted by SChibs

I was sat in the away side of the West Lower today but couldn't see what was happening down the touchline towards the FF. I was row L

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Yeah that’s the issues with those seats in the west lower.

I think because we had them on the FF side of the stand and it was during the Mowbray/Collins era I have a certain fondness for that part of the ground.

From a purely viewing perspective west upper is the place to be for me. Flawless seats. I really like being right at the front of the upper tiers or above the vomitorium steps.