Maloney Hits Back At Ross

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

He's just a pundit now and he was answering a newspaper's questions.

Loads of people have said Martin Boyle should be allowed to leave if the fee is right. Why not Ross?

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Because Ross said he’s been in close contact with Boyle and spoke about it.

There’s difference in saying “I think Boyle should leave” and “I’ve been speaking to Boyle about it and I think he should leave”

One is an opinion and one implies the player wants to go, which puts pressure on the club.

Shaun may not be that displeased that Martin is leaving
Certainly Martin and Jack got on well.
Could be Martin was looking to leave after Jack got sacked.
Below is Martin's comments on the sacking

Personal opinion, it wasn't great. Not a great situation," Boyle, 28, said.
"It was obviously not my decision but certainly one that I don't agree with.
I'd probably say harsh.
Ultimately, he still kept the squad together and we still believed in what we wanted to achieve.
"Signing a new contract under him and obviously probably a bit part of why I signed as well, he showed a lot of belief in what he wanted to do with the club."

Those comments said before Christmas.
I thought then that Martin would likely be off this month, no matter what Jack Ross said today
Saying that ,Jack should have kept his mouth shut about Boyle (to the press)
Just stoking the fire,doing that.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

What did Ross say to get that reaction?

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Nothing. Shaun maybe just read the headline too.

When I read Ross comments I actually thought it was a bit disrespectful towards Maloney and his staff that Boyle and Ross were in daily dialogue so I’m pleased he’s come out and retaliated.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

Nothing. Shaun maybe just read the headline too.

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Maybe the journalist knows SM really well too and told him what was really said.

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Originally Posted by truehibernian

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

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:agree:

I think Sean will be more annoyed about the Boyle chat.

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

Fair play to him. Ross is yesterday’s man sniping from the sidelines, Maloney is the man doing the job Ross thinks he should still be doing. I liked Ross, but he can go and **** himself if he thinks he’s more important than the current manager. I’m not interested in anything Ross has got to say anymore, Maloney is the main man.

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Like. :thumbsup:

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

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Cheers bud. How you doing these days?

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Originally Posted by givescotlandfreedom

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

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I’m undecided about the comments, but it really doesn’t prove that at all does it?

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Originally Posted by givescotlandfreedom

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

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Agree. He could say he loves me but not to that rag

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Originally Posted by Scooter

If its purely just on the sun article then Maloney's comments are shocking almost Embarrassing. Ross never really said anything wrong (again if it's just the article) and don't know why he's so bothered

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Away you go. He’s quite right. Ross using the Boyle situation to get back into the papers to promote himself. If Shaun felt the comments were out of order then I’m all for pulling him about it. Under the Ross regime we were too silent when folk were openly critical of our club in the press.

Well done Shaun.

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Tbh, it's made him seem a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive unless Ross has said more than I've read.

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So when JR says things like, Boyle ‘should be allowed to leave’ and ‘hibs shouldn’t stand in his way’ that’s all fine? there’s some sort of narrative that we are the big bad wolf here trying to get the best value for one of our contracted players and JR is feeding that, do we think JR would have been happy with Boyle leaving if he was still in post? would he just roll over and accept first offer since it’s life changing for Boyle? of course not and he should keep his opinions on the matter to his private conversations with his friend.

Good man Maloney. Bit of dig about you.

JR isn’t just another pundit, he’s a nose out of joint pundit who shouldn’t be advising Hibs on what the should do with their players.

There will be a phonecall happening I'd imagine. Massive fan of Jack Ross but not sure why he had to speak out although don't think he said anything wrong. Wasn't helpful though.

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

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Originally Posted by hibeejeebies

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

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Scottish football podcast sportsound allows you to listen to aftermatch of games including interviews

Well said Maloney. Ross perfectly entitled to his opinion and to voice it in public but he knew what he was doing when it became I talk to my mate Martin everyday telling him what to do. That’s nothing more than an attempt to undermine Maloney. Think a number of players will have a similar relationship with Ross. Expect more of them to get emptied. Those great mates of Ross are also the ones who ultimately got him sacked……

Well said Shaun

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Originally Posted by GonzoReturns

Well said Maloney. Ross perfectly entitled to his opinion and to voice it in public but he knew what he was doing when it became I talk to my mate Martin everyday telling him what to do. That’s nothing more than an attempt to undermine Maloney. Think a number of players will have a similar relationship with Ross. Expect more of them to get emptied. Those great mates of Ross are also the ones who ultimately got him sacked……

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Spot on they liked him that much they got him the sack. Sounds like too many knew they were on a cushy number knowing they would play irrespective of performance

Firstly, for what it’s worth, I liked Ross as our manager and was disappointed for him when he was shown the door, but I think he is out of order to make the sort of comments suggested here ( I haven’t read them but get the gist). He sounds like a bitter man and, in my opinion, has lost some sympathy and respect.

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Originally Posted by hibeejeebies

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

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Maloney comments on Ross at 36:19.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bjh056

Ross was trying to hawk one of our players in the media and heavily implied he still had Martin Boyles ear.

I would have been raging if I was Maloney as well.

Everyone knows football is like any other business and people look for advice from ex managers, colleagues etc but a former manager actively involving himself in the media furore surrounding an ongoing transfer situation is poor stuff. Ross wouldn't have liked Neil Lennon or Alan Stubbs trying to talk up Boyle to Celtic in the media.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Ross was trying to hawk one of our players in the media and heavily implied he still had Martin Boyles ear.

I would have been raging if I was Maloney as well.

Everyone knows football is like any other business and people look for advice from ex managers, colleagues etc but a former manager actively involving himself in an ongoing transfer situation is poor stuff.

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I think if he didn't say he was speaking to Martin about it then fine

The fact he did is the disrespectful part Maloney talks about I think

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Much as I was neither happy nor sad at Ross leaving the article in the paper did him no favours. I can see the point of him not getting to lead the team out at hampden but he was on a horrendous run and he knows that only ends up one way. P45. We have won 3 league games,drawn one,lost to the celtic who we very rarely take something from away and negotiated a tough cup tie minus loads of players due to injury and suspension.
Wrong time for Ross to appear in the papers IMHO. The results have shown it was the right decision and as for Boyle very naughty stirring the pot there. Its up to hibs,as it would have been if he'd been in charge, to proceed as they see fit. If the bid doesnt match their valuation then no. End of. Plus if we sell Boyle only 10 days to get a replacement in.
.net has become so negative these days I can go days without looking. The bounce is far fairer now IMHO. Mcginn back for well,porteous after that game our new signings will soon gel. Onwards and upwards
Ggtth.

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Originally Posted by Jim44

Firstly, for what it’s worth, I liked Ross as our manager and was disappointed for him when he was shown the door, but I think he is out of order to make the sort of comments suggested here ( I haven’t read them but get the gist). He sounds like a bitter man and, in my opinion, has lost some sympathy and respect.

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100% agree. On the eve of a tricky cup game. He's an intellegent guy, he knew what he was doing there. Obviously still pissed off. Supported Jack Ross massivley when he was our manager but he isn't any more so he can do one. Hibs are the important thing. Behind our current manager on this.

I stuck up ror Ross right to the end. He's gone now and I fully support the new manager. I get that Ross will have been asked questions but he could easily have kept some if that to himself. Totally understand why Maloney would be a bit pissed off

Don’t understand why Maloney has made this a “thing”. Boyle was already finalising his move by the time the article emerged. Didn’t affect any element of it .

Can understand people on here wanting to protect Hibs, but still think Maloney has come across overly sensitive on it .

Could be interesting at times though, if Maloney is going to pick people up for things they do and things they say like this - could be some good after match interviews ….

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

Don’t understand why Maloney has made this a “thing”. Boyle was already finalising his move by the time the article emerged. Didn’t affect any element of it .

Can understand people on here wanting to protect Hibs, but still think Maloney has come across overly sensitive on it .

Could be interesting at times though, if Maloney is going to pick people up for things they do and things they say like this - could be some good after match interviews ….

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I can see both sides of your point actually. I agree that while JRs comments weren't overly critical, they weren't really helpful and perhaps didn't warrant a response but maybe Maloney is just playing the game hear and letting us supporters know that there is a fight in him if needed. We've already seen comments on here that he might be a soft touch so hopefully that puts that to bed.

After Boyle's comments after Ross left, I wonder if he told his agent to get it sorted and wanted out.