Hecky's at the wheel

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26-11-2021, 11:34 AM
Mac_17

If he wasn't unlucky with injuries and Doidge missing his chances, he would probably still be here and doing well.

I liked him even though it didn't work out here. All the best to him.
26-11-2021, 11:55 AM
WhileTheChief..

Up there with Butcher and Duffy as my least favourite ever Hibs managers.

Con man who should never have set foot at ER.
26-11-2021, 12:00 PM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Up there with Butcher and Duffy as my least favourite ever Hibs managers.

Con man who should never have set foot at ER.

The cup tie against Celtic at home when Hecky was in charge, was one of the most negative performances I’ve ever seen at Easter Road from a Hibs team
It was embarrassing
26-11-2021, 12:04 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

The cup tie against Celtic at home when Hecky was in charge, was one of the most negative performances I’ve ever seen at Easter Road from a Hibs team
It was embarrassing

The last game we played v Celtc at home was every bit as bad imo.
26-11-2021, 12:26 PM
Tyler Durden

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Originally Posted by Viva_Palmeiras

Yup I was fortunate along with some others to visit the training centre when Hibs.net sponsorship funded the gps stuff. He was not much longer in charge and you got a bit of a sense of defensiveness but to be fair he fielded and handled the questions well and in details.

what I took from that was - he was intense, a deep thinker of the game. He talked about the importance of fitness and sports science - you’re not an athlete you just won’t be considered down South - so if we want to sell there essential. He also acknowledged it needed to be more that fitness and that psychology has a part to play. He didn’t come out and say a lot of the challengers were in the players heads but I think that’s what he was hinting at. Doidge could have been an example of that. Wasn’t Hanlon also injured? Decent hardworking guy. Wish him well.

This part is interesting as his Hibs team basically couldn't run. Vela, Mallan, Allan in midfield. Tom James at full back. Trying to play Newell as a winger FFS. It was mind boggling.

I was pretty hyped when he came in as I believed his philosophy would revolve around high pressing and intensity. He talked about that but the reality was the opposite and not one of his signings were in that mould.

Might do a lot better with the resources available at Sheff Utd to be fair, where the squad is already good enough for promotion.
26-11-2021, 12:30 PM
bigwheel

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Originally Posted by wookie70

The last game we played v Celtc at home was every bit as bad imo.

First half was …second half was completely
Different
26-11-2021, 12:43 PM
bigwheel

Hecky is interesting. The players loved him. Tactically he was said to be the best coach many of them have ever worked with . There was high hopes in the board that they had someone special . Yet , the football and the results were stinking .

It just never happened for us or him when he was at the helm.

You wonder if Doidge had scored a couple of those chances up at Aberdeen - would that have triggered a different set of results ? We will never know .

Once he left , victory up at Perth under May & Co, felt like such a wonderful relief .
26-11-2021, 12:45 PM
SHODAN

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

The cup tie against Celtic at home when Hecky was in charge, was one of the most negative performances I’ve ever seen at Easter Road from a Hibs team
It was embarrassing

Have to agree. It felt like our play was devised by someone who clearly didn't understand the dynamic up here.
28-11-2021, 04:24 PM
EI255

Good luck to him.

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28-11-2021, 04:30 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

First half was …second half was completely
Different

Aye, we just forgot to shout next goals the winner.
28-11-2021, 04:33 PM
bigwheel

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Originally Posted by wookie70

Aye, we just forgot to shout next goals the winner.

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28-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Up there with Butcher and Duffy as my least favourite ever Hibs managers.

Con man who should never have set foot at ER.

Same for me. He was terrible at Hibs. Players might have liked him, but he achieved the square root of F*** all and actually took us backwards.
28-11-2021, 04:51 PM
H18 SFR

Really liked the guy, wish him all the success in the world.
28-11-2021, 04:52 PM
heretoday

He had an interesting face. Puckish.
I imagine he's still got it.
28-11-2021, 05:00 PM
Renfrew_Hibby

Suspect they could go on a wee run now and get themselves up near the playoff spots.
28-11-2021, 05:01 PM
Iain G

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Up there with Butcher and Duffy as my least favourite ever Hibs managers.

Con man who should never have set foot at ER.

Worse than Calderwood? 🤷
28-11-2021, 05:03 PM
FilipinoHibs

Interesting that people say the players liked him. As soon as he left it was like the shackles came off. I often wondered if he gave them to much information to think about in games and that inhibited them.
28-11-2021, 05:49 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by Iain G

Worse than Calderwood? 🤷

Ooft, forgot all about him.

You’re right of course, he was the worst of the worst.

For all I couldn’t stand PH, he doesn’t come close to Calderwood.
28-11-2021, 05:54 PM
Since452

I thought he was a very likeable guy and he's clearly a good coach. Not everyone liked him but that's life. Good luck to him. We've both moved on.
28-11-2021, 05:56 PM
Dmas

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Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs

Interesting that people say the players liked him. As soon as he left it was like the shackles came off. I often wondered if he gave them to much information to think about in games and that inhibited them.

I think it was the training and the man, im not convinced he could set a team up to win a football game but a lot of people even down Leeds raved about his coaching and he certainly wasn't anywhere close to the levels of ******** as the likes of butcher and calderwood, Hecky wasn't a bad guy just wasn't good enough.
28-11-2021, 05:57 PM
90274

Didn't mind him as manager, says something that he's been given that job at that level. Duffy, Mixu, Fenlon and Butcher all far far worse than him.
28-11-2021, 06:13 PM
Dr What If?

My memory of him was more that what he said is not what was happening on the pitch.....as someone already pointed out, a lot of talk about high intensity, high push....but a team that seemed predominantly slow and on the back foot.

FWIW, I think Hibs are one of the toughest gigs in Scotland for a manager. We are one of the big 5 and expectations reflect that. We have one of the best infrastructures in the country and (relatively speaking) we have a good sized support who turn out to watch the team. That said though, our player budget has lagged behind Aberdeen and Hearts, and is miles away that of the OF. Being a professional sport, you need to pay good money for good players - Heckingbottom (in my opinion) simply didn't have the budget to bring in the players that could play the game he wanted to play.....so he gambled and sadly it didn't pay off.

I wish him well. Success at Sheffield Utd doesn't mean we ditched a good manager and missed out, it just means we let go of a manager whose skill set didn't fit what was needed at Easter Road.
28-11-2021, 06:17 PM
cabbageandribs1875

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Originally Posted by Dmas

I think it was the training and the man, im not convinced he could set a team up to win a football game but a lot of people even down Leeds raved about his coaching and he certainly wasn't anywhere close to the levels of ******** as the likes of butcher and calderwood, Hecky wasn't a bad guy just wasn't good enough.

seriously ? he was sacked just 4 months into an 18 month contract, won just 4 games in 16, and as a veryyy long time follower of all things Leeds i was one of the many thousands glad to see the back of him,hence my big concern even when it was just rumoured Hibs were thinking about him.. a likeable guy though.
28-11-2021, 06:25 PM
Baader

One up front at home for Sheffield Utd for the foreseeable then...
28-11-2021, 06:45 PM
Dmas

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

seriously ? he was sacked just 4 months into an 18 month contract, won just 4 games in 16, and as a veryyy long time follower of all things Leeds i was one of the many thousands glad to see the back of him,hence my big concern even when it was just rumoured Hibs were thinking about him.. a likeable guy though.

nicknamed the PE Teacher by the fans cause players liked his coaching no?
28-11-2021, 07:29 PM
Pagan Hibernia

I’m grateful to him for the win at Tynecastle. But that’s about it.
28-11-2021, 07:37 PM
Cat Stanton

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Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia

I’m grateful to him for the win at Tynecastle. But that’s about it.

Got rid of/let leave both holding midfielders, Bartley and Milligan, and then pointed out (correctly) that we were powder puff in midfield...
28-11-2021, 07:49 PM
MWHIBBIES

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Originally Posted by Cat Stanton

Got rid of/let leave both holding midfielders, Bartley and Milligan, and then pointed out (correctly) that we were powder puff in midfield...

Neither of those 2 players was good enough. He was right to let both go.

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Originally Posted by 90274

Didn't mind him as manager, says something that he's been given that job at that level. Duffy, Mixu, Fenlon and Butcher all far far worse than him.

Mixu and fenlon were significantly better than butcher, Calderwood and Duffy.

Mixu and Fenlon got us some good results over Hearts and the OF. Fenlon had a couple of good runs in cup. We were utter crap under butcher, Duffy and Calderwood.
28-11-2021, 08:02 PM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by 90274

Didn't mind him as manager, says something that he's been given that job at that level. Duffy, Mixu, Fenlon and Butcher all far far worse than him.

He won 11 in 32 games and you “didn’t mind him” yet are chasing Jack Ross out the door on a regular basis and seem to utterly detest him. The mind boggles.
28-11-2021, 09:26 PM
Smartie

He might have come good in the end but made a few critical mistakes.

Loved a 451 that he just didn’t have the players to play. Didn’t understand the need to play in the front foot and attack weaker teams, especially at home. Made a mediocre midfield worse.

Worth remembering how much Doidge struggled at the start under him - and picked up as soon as he had a strike partner.

Hecky had a decent half season up to the summer then a minging start to his second season.

I don’t think he’s that different to Jack Ross and given time he might well have picked up. He was never going to be given that time though and it was right that he went.

Not sure he “got” Scottish football at all.

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