Duffy

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Originally Posted by Andy74

I’m basing it on him being wrong and me being right.😀

And no, footballers do not have ‘bubbles’ or any other interpretation of being kept away from other people.

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You might want to make the SG and the SFA aware of that. There is clear guidance for the players when it comes to staying clear of the public.

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

You might want to make the SG and the SFA aware of that. There is clear guidance for the players when it comes to staying clear of the public.

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You should probably look it up.

When Hibs players finish training of a day what do you think happens?

Are they all living together and interacting with no one or are they seeing their families, going to Sainsbury’s or whatever?

Once outside the club they are under the same rules as everyone else.

The exemption is for travelling abroad for training and competition which allows them not to isolate when they return, regardless of their transport method.

In Duffy’s case, he travelled home from a training trip, he did not have to isolate as he was exempt and then he passed a test. He would also have had to have been cleared by the tracers in relation to the positive test they had.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

You should probably look it up.

When Hibs players finish training of a day what do you think happens?

Are they all living together and interacting with no one or are they seeing their families, going to Sainsbury’s or whatever?

Once outside the club they are under the same rules as everyone else.

The exemption is for travelling abroad for training and competition which allows them not to isolate when they return, regardless of their transport method.

In Duffy’s case, he travelled home from a training trip, he did not have to isolate as he was exempt and then he passed a test. He would also have had to have been cleared by the tracers in relation to the positive test they had.

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I don’t need to look it up. The Scottish government and the SFA make it clear that there is a ‘bubble’ for the elite sportspersons, they’ve mentioned it many a time, most notably when it came to the Aberdeen 8. The players all have far more stringent measures in place than what we have, the clubs allude to this all the time. That results in them spending as little time as possible with the public.

Teams also have to fly away from any public, not take public transport, ensure they are in a hotel with no contact with the public, eating areas with no public, yet spending 8 hours on a plane is somehow ok? The same public that have to quarantine on arrival (testing doesn’t matter otherwise they’d be doing testing in airports to keep the country moving), elite sportspersons are exempt due to the protocols in place, once they are breached or broken (ie mingling with public in a hotel or flying home in a plane full of random members of the public) then the exemptions shouldn’t stand. In this case any testing won’t be reliable for the sake of the trip for at least a week.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

You should probably look it up.

When Hibs players finish training of a day what do you think happens?

Are they all living together and interacting with no one or are they seeing their families, going to Sainsbury’s or whatever?

Once outside the club they are under the same rules as everyone else.

The exemption is for travelling abroad for training and competition which allows them not to isolate when they return, regardless of their transport method.

In Duffy’s case, he travelled home from a training trip, he did not have to isolate as he was exempt and then he passed a test. He would also have had to have been cleared by the tracers in relation to the positive test they had.

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Andy I found myself agreeing with you on all this then I thought about Bolingoli - he flew to and from Spain and didn’t quarantine on his return and it resulted in uproar and him being punted. What’s the difference?

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

I don’t need to look it up. The Scottish government and the SFA make it clear that there is a ‘bubble’ for the elite sportspersons, they’ve mentioned it many a time, most notably when it came to the Aberdeen 8. The players all have far more stringent measures in place than what we have, the clubs allude to this all the time. That results in them spending as little time as possible with the public.

Teams also have to fly away from any public, not take public transport, ensure they are in a hotel with no contact with the public, eating areas with no public, yet spending 8 hours on a plane is somehow ok? The same public that have to quarantine on arrival (testing doesn’t matter otherwise they’d be doing testing in airports to keep the country moving), elite sportspersons are exempt due to the protocols in place, once they are breached or broken (ie mingling with public in a hotel or flying home in a plane full of random members of the public) then the exemptions shouldn’t stand. In this case any testing won’t be reliable for the sake of the trip for at least a week.

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Sorry, but you’re wrong on that.

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

Andy I found myself agreeing with you on all this then I thought about Bolingoli - he flew to and from Spain and didn’t quarantine on his return and it resulted in uproar and him being punted. What’s the difference?

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He went on a holiday basically, didn’t tell the club and didn’t isolate as I recall.

He wasn’t there for training or competition!

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Originally Posted by Andy74

He went on a holiday basically, didn’t tell the club and didn’t isolate as I recall.

He wasn’t there for training or competition!

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Yet is an elite sportsperson getting tested regularly.

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

Yet is an elite sportsperson getting tested regularly.

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The circumstances aren’t really comparable.

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Originally Posted by superfurryhibby

The circumstances aren’t really comparable.

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They’re not, however he’s not at any more risk going to Spain than Duffy was flying back from Dubai.. All he had to do was turn around and said he fancied a few days warm weather training and he’d be fine.

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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman

Good assist for the equaliser.

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Glad he played..cracking player 😂

After Kennedy’s comments, Hibs should at the very least be asking the authorities for an explanation as to why Duffy was able to play.

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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs

Andy I found myself agreeing with you on all this then I thought about Bolingoli - he flew to and from Spain and didn’t quarantine on his return and it resulted in uproar and him being punted. What’s the difference?

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Maybe his parent club will recall him..at least thats what Celtic must be hoping

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Originally Posted by Andy74

He went on a holiday basically, didn’t tell the club and didn’t isolate as I recall.

He wasn’t there for training or competition!

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👍🏼 I thought it would be that.

He should’ve done a 5k and he’d have been ok.

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Originally Posted by hibbysam

Yet is an elite sportsperson getting tested regularly.

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It is the purpose of the trip that matters.

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Originally Posted by angus hibby

After Kennedy’s comments, Hibs should at the very least be asking the authorities for an explanation as to why Duffy was able to play.

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I think Hibs will understand this. Kennedy has just mis spoken.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

It is the purpose of the trip that matters.

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My slightly tongue in cheek point is that there is no more risk with Bolingoli travelling back to and from Spain than Duffy from Dubai. It can’t be proven safe to go on a public flight to or from a known hotspot is my issue, therefore no amount of negative tests can prove that Duffy was safe (positive tests on from anyone on the plane won’t come for at least a few days).