Orange March

Is it not about time those Neanderthals gave up.. really wish they would just **** off.

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

A good decision by the courts. I'm wondering why the orange lodges have decided to call off their re routed marches. 😷 they're still allowed to march, but just not past a Catholic church.👌

I hope Cosla take the message throughout Scotland.

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The simple reason is that the whole point of the marches (a show of force to intimidate Scotland's catholic population) is defeated by not being allowed to pass Catholic Churches/areas.

The whole thing is a farce.

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Originally Posted by murray26

Is it not about time those Neanderthals gave up.. really wish they would just **** off.

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It's the elephant in the room. LGBT rights on the agenda :not worth, antisemitism uproar :not worth, rule out islamophobia :not worth, red card to racism :not worth

But anti catholic marches in Scotland - tolerated and acceptable.

What a ******g joke.

You would think that they have already made their point every other week at Ibrox.

Couldn't they all just mill about Ibrox for a couple of days like they did when they were trying to prevent the liquidation of the now defunct Glasgow rangers?

Hang around with like minded people, sing about who they hate then piss off home until the next time, having achieved the square root of F all except giving the rest of the post 17th century world a good laugh.

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Got caught at one (not listed on the parade website) today in Forth. They still don’t like metalcore bands at full volume 😂

No orange marches in Leith. I think their used to be up until the 90's. One of my brothers had a flat on Albert Place and hung his large Hibs flag which just happened to have a harp on it out the window as the march went past. They were raging and he actually had to take it in by order of Lothian and Border's finest :greengrin

I'm not against them marching but it seems to be far too often and up and down the same old routes. Also, their is no way they should be marching past Roman Catholic churches. It seems common practice for the marchers to time the parades past the churches when there is a Mass on.

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Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee

One of my brothers had a flat on Albert Place and hung his large Hibs flag which just happened to have a harp on it out the window as the march went past. They were raging

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Intolerance of musical instruments other than their own. Say No to instrumentalism :agree:

I was going to start a thread about Trump's visit to the UK but I see we've already got one here.

Broxburn is massively Orange, so it's no surprise. Plenty of good folk in such towns of course, but plenty of Loyalists tramps who cling to the 'this is oor country' mentality.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I think Devine is correct to an extent.

Since the restoration of the Scottish hierarchy in the 19th century Catholics have had a recognised governance in Scotland and, generally speaking, Catholics and Episcopalians can now worship openly and freely without intimidation or persecution. Again speaking generally there is societal equality and it's far less common for people to be denied education or work based on their religious background.

They have essentially been reduced to marching about the streets annoying people to demonstrate their 'superiority'. Trainspotting 2 sums it up nicely:

'The Battle of the Boyne was fought in 1690 between 2 rival claimants to the British and Irish thrones: James II, Catholic, and William of Orange, Protestant. The battle was decisive. The Protestants won. But 400 years later the uncompromising and victorious loyalists now feel estranged from the modern, secular United Kingdom. The sectarian songs have been banned but they still gather and remain loyal to the victory of 1690, and to a simpler, less tolerant time. But if anything else, history has down us very clearly these are people it is unwise to provoke.'

Anyway you' ll have to excuse me as I'm off to Mass now.

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Absolutely correct to say that institutional bigotry has been largely eradicated, but at street level it still persists in Scotland, as we all know. Progress has been made here too, but it will take another couple of generations (perhaps longer) before the anti-Catholic nonsense dissipates. I was raised Catholic, but, unlike yourself, I no longer have any religious belief. The west of Scotland is far worse, but we are not immune from sectarian nonsense, and yes, it does go both ways.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

Broxburn is massively Orange, so it's no surprise. Plenty of good folk in such towns of course, but plenty of Loyalists tramps who cling to the 'this is oor country' mentality.

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It's certainly staunch, mental that it's just outside the Edinburgh boundaries.

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Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee

No orange marches in Leith. I think their used to be up until the 90's. One of my brothers had a flat on Albert Place and hung his large Hibs flag which just happened to have a harp on it out the window as the march went past. They were raging and he actually had to take it in by order of Lothian and Border's finest :greengrin

I'm not against them marching but it seems to be far too often and up and down the same old routes. Also, their is no way they should be marching past Roman Catholic churches. It seems common practice for the marchers to time the parades past the churches when there is a Mass on.

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I hung a large Hibs flag from the scaffolding on Leith Walk in the 80s. Polis came up to the flat and told me to take it down. Provocation apparently

I see the, grand orange lodge of Scotland, have said they hire in the bands to play during the marches, this after a young lady was assaulted and spat at whilst trying to cross the road through the marchers.

Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

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Originally Posted by ronaldo7

I see the, grand orange lodge of Scotland, have said they hire in the bands to play during the marches, this after a young lady was assaulted and spat at whilst trying to cross the road through the marchers.

Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

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Is this their attempt ot deflect responsibility? That they merely hire bands full of knuckledraggers in para military uniforms to perform their KKKultyural tunes, bands full of morons that are no doubt fully paid up members of their tawdry, hateful organisation.

This pathetic excuse for a human tries to stop a middle aged lady from crossing the street with her message bags. When he failed at that he spat at her. He should be arrested. Is spitting at someone not assault ? Filthy disgusting typical orange walker.

Why is Broxburn so orange?

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Originally Posted by degenerated

Is this their attempt ot deflect responsibility? That they merely hire bands full of knuckledraggers in para military uniforms to perform their KKKultyural tunes, bands full of morons that are no doubt fully paid up members of their tawdry, hateful organisation.

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I thought the organising Committee for the marches were responsible for everyone at their March. Where were their stewards, that they were bragging about having last year.

Did it not suit their agenda, that you can't disrespect the March, by crossing the lines.

Why is this allowed to happen?

I have just seen the footage on the news. Beyond contempt. You can see that plenty of the other cowards saw it spitting, so surely he has been handed up to the police?

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Originally Posted by heretoday

Why is Broxburn so orange?

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It's not.

Every year the Grand Lodge trot out the same pish about the bands being hired guns. Who is responsible for hiring them? They don't just pitch up on the day and start playing beside the marches.

If the bands are solely responsible for playing the songs they shouldn't, spitting on people or whatever else then the obvious solution would be to stop hiring them. The reason they don't is obvious; they know their audience and the bands provide what they want. Search for 'under the bridge' on YouTube and there are countless videos of members of the OO giving it laldy when the bands belt out something like the Famine Song.

The Grand Lodge can protest (no pun intended) all they like but their members and the bands they hire are complicit in stirring up the anti social behaviour that surrounds their marches.

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

It's not.

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It ****ing is. Their annual 'big walk' is a full on hate-fest of neo-KKK, insular right wing bawbaggery. The lowest common denominator sums it up.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

It ****ing is. Their annual 'big walk' is a full on hate-fest of neo-KKK, insular right wing bawbaggery. The lowest common denominator sums it up.

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You're no even worth debating with.

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

It's not.

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It is.

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

You're no even worth debating with.

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That's fine, if that's your view, but, having had first hand experience, I stand by my view of Broxburn's religious bigotry, as manifested each July. Its insularity can match anything in the central belt, in my opinion. If that hurts your feelings, too bad. Confront those who still live in the seventeenth century.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

That's fine, if that's your view, but, having had first hand experience, I stand by my view of Broxburn's religious bigotry, as manifested each July. Its insularity can match anything in the central belt, in my opinion. If that hurts your feelings, too bad. Confront those who still live in the seventeenth century.

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I've lived here nearly 20 years. There is 1 annual march which closes the main street for a couple of hours.

In the time I have lived here its become obvious that there is far less enthusiasm for this one and only march per year. Indeed I'd say I've yet to meet anyone here who doesn't think the whole thing is rather silly and pointless.

If you've had first hand experience of sectarianism here than I cant say much about that but to use it to say 'Broxburn is Orange' is pushing it too far in my experience.

Having seen the likes of West Calder, Boness, Bathgate and oh my Armadale in action I know for a fact that Broxburn is nowhere near as bad as them at this time of the year.

If it was I'd have moved out a long time ago.

You're entitled to your opinion. I absolutely disagree with it.

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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee

I've lived here nearly 20 years. There is 1 annual march which closes the main street for a couple of hours.

In the time I have lived here its become obvious that there is far less enthusiasm for this one and only march per year. Indeed I'd say I've yet to meet anyone here who doesn't think the whole thing is rather silly and pointless.

If you've had first hand experience of sectarianism here than I cant say much about that but to use it to say 'Broxburn is Orange' is pushing it too far in my experience.

Having seen the likes of West Calder, Boness, Bathgate and oh my Armadale in action I know for a fact that Broxburn is nowhere near as bad as them at this time of the year.

If it was I'd have moved out a long time ago.

You're entitled to your opinion. I absolutely disagree with it.

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Oi, I'm from West Calder, 45 years and counting and I know a good 85% of the people here and I can categorically state that there's probably less than 100 people that way inclined if that,maybe a couple of decades ago there was a surge and they formed a flute band but most of those idiots have either grown up or deceased. I've no idea why they choose to walk our Main St, a few years ago there was apparently 108 bands marching down West Calder Main St and I've no idea why. I could understand if it was Harthill or Larkhall but I'm lost as to why West Calder. Obviously Broxburn has the same problem.

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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba

It ****ing is. Their annual 'big walk' is a full on hate-fest of neo-KKK, insular right wing bawbaggery. The lowest common denominator sums it up.

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It is not an annual walk, it’s a band contest.

Broxburn can be a bit East Lanarkshire rather than West Lothian but is not the Orange town you would like to present.

Large Celtic following and a nice dilution of Hibs fans who have moved into the area over the past 3 decades


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Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes

It's the elephant in the room. LGBT rights on the agenda :not worth, antisemitism uproar :not worth, rule out islamophobia :not worth, red card to racism :not worth

But anti catholic marches in Scotland - tolerated and acceptable.

What a ******g joke.

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It's our "thing", like guns in America or fox hunting in England. A reactionary national pasttime that is somehow completely ignored because there are too many people in this country that would go ape**** (including in positions of power) if it was banned, despite it being wholly bad for everyone involved and not involved.