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If you are in the Europa League phase you have 8 league games to play (4 home/4 away). If you are in the Conference League phase you play 6 games (3 home/3 away).Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
If we finish 3rd and Celtic win the cup we will have a Europa League play-off second leg on 28 August, which is probably only a couple of days before the transfer window closes.
Depending on which tournament we are in, may go some way to determine how much money we spend in the transfer window.
So if we qualified for the Europa league we would play 10 games including the 2 legged play off, that would be tremendous
So is it possibly 10 games minimum if we got into Europa league..winning a playoff tie (home and away) and the 8 group games.
8 games minimum if we end up in Conference league - but easier chance to progress and win games.
You can see why these European competitions put a strain on a smaller squads with Scottish teams and league form.
We need to get another league win this season and feel like we could pretty much be there - everything crossed we could do it ideally before the Huns visit and we can have a final day celebration / appreciation/ send off for the squad in a sold out Easter Road.
If we finish fourth then we play Europa League qualifiers, if we lose then we drop down to Conference League qualifiersQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
https://x.com/footrankings/status/19...336775383?s=46
Latest update on projected pots
For potential away ties, Malmö or Brøndby would be ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Leipzig away would be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
We've already been there, i'd like someone different and sunny. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Green Man
They were both sunny the last time we played them, maybe you can’t remember it😂Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
True. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Top 5 of the potential away trips of most like to see based on a mixture of footballing reasons and location would be:Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Rayo Vallecano (Madrid)
Panathinaikos (Athens)
LASK (Linz, Austria)
Vitória S.C. (Portugal)
Lazio
I just found this on Twitter. I like how it mentions our European legacy.
https://x.com/UEFAObscura/status/192...etS6ogeIA&s=19
Take any of those but Lazio would be awesome. Rome is amazing, stadium is huge so we'd all get in no bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Plus when we play pro-fascist teams in light blue (yes I'm looking at you Rangers) we tend to win 3-2:flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
If we got a European away trip to Rome and the Olimpico I'd think I'd died and gone to heavenQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Check our coefficient score.....it's a sign!Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
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Originally Posted by Frazerbob
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Originally Posted by bingo70
I would take another crack at AEK Athens not only are they the lowest seeded team I feel we should have beat them last time we played them .. still think about Paco Luna’s header at the back post in the dying minutes of normal time
Nazio would be an awful trip. Not only are their fans right wing roasters, they're very, very stabby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
I'd love a trip away to royal antwerp personally.
Great info.
Question if all planets align, would we be seeded or unseeded in Europa qualifier?
Very much unseeded. The seedings are mostly based on a club's indivdual performance with a 20% baseline from the country rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2025.html
Getting one over the jambo roasters that are Union SG would be nice. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Edit: Surprised Qarabag would be unseeded. They've had a few good runs in recent years. Zoubir is still there I think.
I don’t know why but that’s quite a disappointing list imo. Only a small handful of teams in there I’d be excited about going away to so the chances of drawing them for an away tie are slim.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonC1875
Hopefully some movement in other leagues. Mallorca qualifying would be nice, Hibs away in Magaluf :greengrin
I love Rome, but I wouldnt want to be in a away support there. Call me a big jessie if you want but its a bit too stabby for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/23/shameful-rome-mayor-dismayed-after-lazio-thugs-attack-real-sociedad-fans
Based on those pots it would be possible to get
Lazio
Panathenaikos
Poznan
Bournemouth
Brondby
Some ties in there
if you are wondering about where we finish and what it brings us - get yer head round this !
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024...ons-scheme.png
for 25/26 Scotland is the 11th ranked nation - keys here
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html
So that means 3rd in league (Celtic win cup) =
Europa League play off game, if we lose that entry to Conference league group stage
3rd in league Dons win cup =
Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round
4th in league cup winners irrelevant =
Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round
5th in league cup winner Celtic =
Entry to Conference league Q2 round
I THINK!!!!
There are some places I just don't particularly fancy going to be an away fan in. Rome and Istanbul are an immediate two that spring to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
If we finish 4th we get the same as 3rd and Dons win cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
Some possible doings as well. La2io and Bournemouth would give me the fear to be honest. If we make the group stages of either competition the downside will be the strain playing these games will put on our squad, there's no doubt St Mirren, Killie and Hearts all suffered as a result. I've already seen folk talking about some of our players looking 'leggy' in the last few games and that's on the back of a season with no European football and no long run in either cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
It is what it is though and doings and knackered players aside, it would be great to see this club finally make a European group stage.
Drawing an Israeli club might be interesting. 👀
Really? Some brilliant trips in there. A few big teams and lots of more obscure destinations too. The more obscure the better. This has me VERY excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Hibs fans crack me up - potential for 4 away games till Xmas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Would rather anywhere in Europe away than some league cup trip to some lower league team like this season.
Exactly. Having travelled a fair bit with Scotland over the last 25 years, sometimes the least obvious trips are the best. All better than Dumbarton in the league cup!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Eh?
Lazio, Leipzig, Alkmaar, Lyon, Istanbul Basaksheir, Bournemouth, Antwerp, Poznan, Vittoria S.C, Besiktas, Malmo, Panathanikos, Brondby, Dinamo Minsk & Rayo Vallecano are not disappointing potential ties.
Not exact but nearly. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
4th in league, cup winner isn't irrelevant.
If we are 4th and the Dons are 3rd, the ranking is Celtc - Huns - Dons - Us - Utd, whoever wins the cup.
If we are 4th, the Dons win the cup and United are 3rd (unlikely), then the ranking is Celtc - Huns - Dons - Utd - Us
If we are 4th, Celtc win the cup and United are 3rd, it's Celtc - Huns - Utd - Us - Dons
If we are 5th the cup winner is irrelevant.
correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
Yeah I’ve removed Dundee Utd from the equation to save head space!
If we are in the Conference League qualifying round 3, or even worse qualifying round 2, our chances of reaching the League stages are very slim. Likely to come across a biggie in the play-off round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not In The Know
I’ve been at a game in the Olympic stadium tooQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Inside and outside the ground there’s loads of violence
Bournemouth is a bit meh and Minsk aren't allowed to play at home (sanctions on Belarus). Everything else. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Where do Minsk play European games now? Must be better than BelarusQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
The international team have been playing in Hungary but we're still waiting to hear where the Scotland game in September will be played. There's also been no fans at their games, although the SFA are trying to get some Scotland fans to the game, wherever it's played. Hearts played Dynamo Minsk in Azerbaijan. Not many countries are pally with Belarus at the moment so options are limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
I'd love to get back to Minsk.....one of my favourite Scotland away trips ever.
Agreed....anywhere with 'stan' in the name is the dream trip :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
If Bournemouth and Hibs both qualify, I'm assuming there will be changes that need to be made re BKFC?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Judging by what happened with Man City/Girona and Man City/Nice this year, it looks like Foley and Caswell would need to resign from our board, we couldn't transfer players between the two clubs and we couldn't share data through player databases, etc.
If away, will be played in a neutral (Poland or Hungary, at a guess), near empty stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee
One to avoid.
I'd be more than happy if we played Minsk in Hungary, that's a great trip. Heard Hungary is a beautiful country and certainly one I'd be happy to tick off the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Are we not ok because it's a less than 30% stake?Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
I don't think United & Nice could have been drawn together in the EL due to Ratcliffe owning Nice and only having 27.8% or something at united.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Could be wrong though.
Sure they would work it out, RB Leipzig and Salzburg have played each other in Europe a few timesQuote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Bournemouth would be a nightmare to get tickets but if it was one of the earlier games it could be a good trip. Jolly boys outings on the bus, drinking on the pier and a wee win on the 2p puggysQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
If we get beat tomorrow and Dundee utd beat St.Mirren it's both of us on 53 points ? They then have Aberdeen and Rangers whilst we have St.mirren and Rangers no danger is 3rd place done and dusted
Dundee Utd are 6 points behind us (7 if you include our far superior goal difference).Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Aw thank **** :greengrin Am blaming bet365 they have it wrong !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chorley Hibee
Yeah maybe me throwing Man City/Girona was a red herring - they are more of a true multi-club model.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16
Man City and Nice are more like our situation and it seems to be management influence that is key rather than the ownership of shares with us and I think you'd struggle to say BKFC don't have management influence with them having two board members. That said, IIRC the new articles of association seems to guarantee them places on the board so I'm not sure how we get round that. The SFA made it a condition of allowing the BKFC deal that we wouldn't have an issue if we qualified for European competition, so they must have a plan for this situation.
That’s a massive leap from what I said to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
Looking at who’s around the teams listed in their league tables I’d be hoping some of them could be replaced by others is all I’m saying really.
For example, I’d rather go to Florence and play Fiorentina or Turin to play Juve than go to Rome and play Nazio. I’d rather go to Mallorca or Seville than Madrid, Monaco, Nice or Lille than Lyon,Dortmund than Leipzig etc.
Nobody is suggesting they’d rather be in the league cup. But there’s very few teams or locations in there that I’d look at and go ‘man I wish I could watch Hibs play that team/in that location one day.’
If we start off in the Europa playoff and are drawn at home first is the AC/DC concert likely to mean we have to move dates?
Might sound a stupid question but might be requested by the police due to staff shortages and public transport.
Nah stupid question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
I’m sure this has been answered a lot already but now things are a bit clearer, can someone tell me what competition and stage we go in at if Aberdeen win the cup.
I know if Celtic win the cup we go into the Europa league play off then drop into the conference if we lose but not sure about what happens if Aberdeen win the cup.
We go into the 2nd qualifying round of conference I think. So that would be 3 ties to get into conf groups I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
“Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Third place becomes considerably more lucrative if Celtic win the Scottish Cup because that would mean the team in third taking the cup’s European spot in the Europa play-off. This is what guarantees league-stage football and rewards upwards of £5m because of the drop into the Conference League in the event of defeat.”
We would go into the Europe league 2nd qualifying round, hen there's a 3rd qualifying round, and then the play offQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Very much this. 👏Quote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Great, so we’ve definitely qualified for the Europa league and will at least have a stab at dropping down to the conference league play off if we lose in the Europa? Guaranteed at least two ties in Europe, more obviously if Celtic win the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Almost, if Aberdeen win the cup and we then lose Europa R2 would drop to Conference R3 then the play off as final round pre the Group. I think, all too confusing!Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I thought if we failed to win the Europa League play off we dropped right into the group stages of Conference League with guaranteed Europe until Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by bringbackbenny
I maybe wrong though!
Sorry I had meanr if Aberdeen win the cup. Will edit my replyQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
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Originally Posted by bringbackbenny
So we're guaranteed at least 2 qualifying ties, 1 in the Europa and 1 in the Conference, assuming we lose both?
"Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa."
So worst case scenario, Aberdeen win the cup -
▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)
Lose that & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round.
▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)
So guaranteed minimum 4 games - is my understanding.
Aye, spot on. Worst case scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I think this should be right, correct me if wrong!
If Aberdeen win the cup -
▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)
(Win & enter Europa League 3rd Qualifying round)
(Lose & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round)
▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of either Europa or Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)
(If in Europa & win enter Europa play off round, if in Europa & lose (or Conference & win) enter Conference play off round (21 Aug & 28 Aug).
If Celtic win the cup or we are successful in 3rd round of Europa above -
2 leg tie in Play Off Round of Europa (21 Aug & 28 Aug)
Win - enter Europa group stage.
Lose - enter Conference group stage.
Alternatively, if successful in 3rd round of Conference above -
2 leg tie in Play Off Round of Conference (21 Aug & 28 Aug)
Win - enter Conference group stage.
Aberdeen winning the cup looks highly unlikely but anything can happen
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So if Aberdeen win the cup, we'd have to negotiate 3 rounds to get a group stage. But, we're allowed to lose 1 of those rounds at some point and end up in the conference as opposed to European.
Yup - that’s it Aberdeen win cup. 2 home euro ties - 2 away euro ties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakedmanoncrack
Celtic win the cup then it’s either 10 games (5 home / 5 away - that’s if we win a difficult Europa league play off tie but rewards are you enter Europa league) or 8 games (4 home and 4 away - conference only play 3 home and 3 away plus Europa league playoffs which we would have lost ) minimum.
Don’t forget it’s the new big table format so 24 out of 36 teams qualify.
You need minimum 2 wins and a draw plus good goal difference to finish in top 24.
Win 3 games ( for example 2 home and 1 away) and you will get x2 more matches (home and away minimum).
We REALLY need Celtic to win the cup final.
Aberdeen 12/1 on betfair I think only red cards would stop celtic getting the treble
Yes, we can either go:Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
WWW - Europa League group
Or any of WWL, WLW, LWW to get to Conf League group
LL, LWL, or WLL we're oot.
All academic when the Dons lose the cup final. :pray:
Clearest I’ve seen it explained, lovely stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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The club should stick 500K on Aberdeen to win 6M as a saver then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Originally Posted by Nakedmanoncrack
Even if the incredibly unlikely happens and Aberdeen win the Cup, I'll be delighted with this for next season.
I'm not even gonna think about any other possible scenarios until after the Cup Final.
I’m the same, that’s why I’m pretty relaxed about Aberdeen winning the cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
From a financial perspective the group stages would be amazing but probably my best ever Hibs away day came at Villa park so it’s still possible to get a good draw in the play offs.
Hotel booked for 20th May 2026 in Istanbul😉 Book now to avoid stupid prices!
Those odds will be to win in 90 min. Don't know about Betfair, but on Bet365 Aberdeen are 11/2 to win the trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach Jon
For our Jambo friends the thread title refers to a large continental land mass east of here.
I take it even if Aberdeen win the cup, do we still get ECL group stage football til Xmas if we go out in the EL Qualifiers? Sorry if already covered.
Nope, we need to qualify.Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
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I remember there was a reply on a thread showing the potential Europa league play of opponents. Anybody got an updated version. Last update had no easy ties to say the least.
Potentially this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Solonleith1
Only a couple on that list to avoid are Braga & PAOK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
The rest of them, when at our best, we would have a decent chance. Particularly early in the season.
Im ever the optimist with Hibs but even I don’t see us beating the majority of the seeded teams over 2 legs. Judging by the lack of green ticks, none ore locked in yet for certain so hopefully an easier team or two make it in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Obviously be great to see Hibs in Europa league group but very tough games even if we can qualify. Maybe conference more realistic and get a couple of wins and a chance of getting through to next stage? Hopefully a couple of decent trips for the fans.
We beat PAOK last year :greengrin:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Aye, good shout, so we did.Quote:
Originally Posted by LewysGot2
Just Braga to avoid then.
And SalzburgQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
And Young Boys
And Midtylland
And Legia
And Sparta
And Anderlecht
And Dynamo
And Sherrif
IMO of course…they almost all have recent champions league experience in at least the playoff round.
That is it yes! Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Aye tough fixtures there but exciting times, providing Celtic do the business as expected.
Utrecht are a handy side too. 4th in the Eredivise currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
There are no easy ties at this level really.
That looks a tough list when you consider in the last few years at the same stage Aberdeen were knocked out by BK Hacken of Sweden and Hearts were papped out with a whimper by the bottom side in Switzerland at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernian Verse
If Aberdeen win the cup, we might only get one tie. Is that correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by HendoDelivered
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by S4uzee
If Aberdeen win the cup, we still get a Europa league play off tie, if we lose that we drop down to a conference league qualifying round.
We’ll definitely get two ties in Europe as a minimum now.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...32824f8f98.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Decent wee graphic of what we get if Aberdeen win the cup.
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We desperately need Celtic to win the cupQuote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw