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11-08-2023, 08:13 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Yes mate, exactly that. Hibs should welcome as many occasional attendees as possible, that’s how fan bases (and clubs) grow.

They didny other last night did they?
11-08-2023, 08:14 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

They dinny come back though. They turn up or villa, we likely take a pounding then they scream some abuse and disappear again, I'd rather they stayed away.

Villa away (if it happens) will be absolute carnage ticket wise. Going to be a lot of arguing and bickering.

The villa fans definitely won't be back. Some of ours will.
11-08-2023, 08:14 PM
007

Give them half to start with and see how our sales go for a couple of days before deciding if we get the other half or give it to them.
11-08-2023, 08:16 PM
Stairway 2 7

We should only take 13k for finals against the old firm then? Hibs will definitely split the stand. Many including families would want to see SJM and hibs against good opposition.
11-08-2023, 08:19 PM
Hermit Crab

Got to remember this 5% thing works both ways. We give them 1020, roughly 5% then they are then only obliged to give us 2100 at Villa park. Be careful what you wish for.

And 500 of them are gone right away for Hibs first menders then theres the sponsors and players allocations too. At least 700-800 gone before they go on sale to ST holders.
11-08-2023, 08:21 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

We should only take 13k for finals against the old firm then? Hibs will definitely split the stand. Many including families would want to see SJM and hibs against good opposition.

Last night was a good opposition team...
11-08-2023, 08:21 PM
Lancs Harp

We'll give them half the stand approx 1800 they will give us the usual visiting allocation of approx 3000.
11-08-2023, 08:22 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Why? So one game wonders can turn up then disappear again? Then the next week we are back to 14-15k fans at home including the away support.

What an idiotic reply.:rolleyes:
11-08-2023, 08:24 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

What an idiotic reply.:rolleyes:

In your opinion.
11-08-2023, 08:24 PM
Liberal Hibby

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Got to remember this 5% thing works both ways. We give them 1020, roughly 5% then they are then only obliged to give us 2100 at Villa park. Be careful what you wish for.

And 500 of them are gone right away for Hibs first menders then theres the sponsors and players allocations too. At least 700-800 gone before they go on sale to ST holders.

Half the Dunbar End is almost 10%.
11-08-2023, 08:25 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

If the Dunbar was split down the middle surely we wouldn't need a huge no man's land as if we were playing the Huns? Just 3 or 4 rows vertically.
I'd imagine they'd be a decent jovial spirit between two sets of fans with no beef between us.
18K Hibbies and 2K Villa sounds about right.

can the south stand be segregated between the 2 tiers?

or would there still be mixing inside the stand?
11-08-2023, 08:26 PM
ErinGoBraghHFC

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Originally Posted by Lancs Harp

We'll give them half the stand approx 1800 they will give us the usual visiting allocation of approx 3000.

Half the Dunbar end is roughly double the usual visiting allocation at Easter road btw, not our fault only four other teams have the demand to ask for more tickets. If we’re doubling the usual visitors allocation for Villa then they’ve no reason to complain imo

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11-08-2023, 08:26 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

In your opinion.

In my opinion it's quite a spiteful and elitist position that you've taken not to mention that it's against the interests of our team.
11-08-2023, 08:27 PM
EH54

Hibs should only offer up the full away end If Villa are willing to offer hibs a larger away section to accommodate us. ( still a long way to go though )
11-08-2023, 08:29 PM
Frazerbob

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

In your opinion.

In my opinion too. I find it bizarre that you'd rather give tickets to more away fans than Hibs fans. As someone else asked, should we request only 14k tickets for our next cup final?
11-08-2023, 08:30 PM
Frazerbob

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Originally Posted by EH54

Hibs should only offer up the full away end If Villa are willing to offer hibs a larger away section to accommodate us. ( still a long way to go though )

Agreed. I'd happily give them the full stand if they gave us 4-5k for the return.....for selfish reasons obviously!
11-08-2023, 08:33 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

In my opinion it's quite a spiteful and elitist position that you've taken not to mention that it's against the interests of our team.

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.
11-08-2023, 08:34 PM
Renfrew_Hibby

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Originally Posted by McD

can the south stand be segregated between the 2 tiers?

or would there still be mixing inside the stand?

The stand is designed to be segregated internally. Both upper and lower decks can be closed off. They were when the East was built and we split the stand for games with Hearts, Celtic and Rangers.
11-08-2023, 08:34 PM
Since452

I'd rather give Villa the bare minimum. We're going to be up it against playing them anyway without letting them have a big noisy away following. Would just be silly. In any case we need to finish the job in Switzerland.
11-08-2023, 08:35 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

And you'd like to punish them for it by giving tickets they could have to Villa fans.

It's spiteful, HC.
11-08-2023, 08:36 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

And there's another one.:rolleyes:
11-08-2023, 08:36 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

In my opinion too. I find it bizarre that you'd rather give tickets to more away fans than Hibs fans. As someone else asked, should we request only 14k tickets for our next cup final?

Nah, what will be worrying most people is that if we reduce the Villa allocation, they might do the same to us meaning less chance of a ticket for ST holders and zero chance for non ST holders. Thats whats really going on here.
11-08-2023, 08:37 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs

And there's another one.:rolleyes:

Block me then :rolleyes:
11-08-2023, 08:37 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

The stand is designed to be segregated internally. Both upper and lower decks can be closed off. They were when the East was built and we split the stand for games with Hearts, Celtic and Rangers.

In doing it that way it would mean we wouldn’t need to leave a number of seats empty as a segregation separator
11-08-2023, 08:38 PM
B.H.F.C

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

Folk want to go to the bigger games. Shock horror. The justification for splitting the stand is that we will easily sell the tickets to our OWN supporters.
11-08-2023, 08:39 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

I don't see it that way at all. If these fans who will fill the Dunbar end turned up to most home games then we would be guaranteed to split the stand. Right now I cant see the justification to do so. Last nights attendance was poor for a big European match.

the same principle would apply to cup finals as well using that logic mate - some people can’t make most home games but will be able to make the occasional game, of course they will try to do that for a big game over a run of the mill league match against Dundee
11-08-2023, 08:39 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by McD

In doing it that way it would mean we wouldn’t need to leave a number of seats empty as a segregation separator

Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.
11-08-2023, 08:41 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by McD

the same principle would apply to cup finals as well using that logic mate - some people can’t make most home games but will be able to make the occasional game, of course they will try to do that for a big game over a run of the mill league match against Dundee

And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...
11-08-2023, 08:42 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.

bit of confusion here, I was meaning if we segregated by having Hibs fans on the upper tier and villa fans in the lower, we’d not need to leave seats empty up the middle of the stand
11-08-2023, 08:42 PM
Lancs Harp

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Yeah we would, at least the central blocks both upper and lower tiers would need to remain largely empty for segregation.

Have you seen a European match at Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Spurs, City? Segregation is a line of stewards. No such European rule exists.
11-08-2023, 08:43 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby

If the Dunbar was split down the middle surely we wouldn't need a huge no man's land as if we were playing the Huns? Just 3 or 4 rows vertically.
I'd imagine they'd be a decent jovial spirit between two sets of fans with no beef between us.
18K Hibbies and 2K Villa sounds about right.

I’d expect that whilst there will be a majority seeking to enjoy a decent jovial spirit, you’ll get a fair bit of what you always get between English and Scottish clubs, which is relative carnage.

The police will be careful.
11-08-2023, 08:44 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...

that’s why I said that those fans who can only make an occasional match will look to try to make a big one rather than a run of the mill match against a poorer side, that’s human nature
11-08-2023, 08:44 PM
Mick O'Rourke

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Originally Posted by Since452

I'd rather give Villa the bare minimum. We're going to be up it against playing them anyway without letting them have a big noisy away following. Would just be silly. In any case we need to finish the job in Switzerland.

:agree:
My thoughts too.
The South full as we know can have a very vocal and noisy atmosphere.
If we do meet them, the Holy Ground will be rocking.
WE dont need them rockin as well..So bare minimum ticket allocation,i say.
11-08-2023, 08:46 PM
Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.
11-08-2023, 08:48 PM
Stairway 2 7

South stand is almost 20% of our capacity. Villa won't give us 8.5k anyway. They will be giving us about 6%, even if we give them half the stand they will be higher than that.
11-08-2023, 08:48 PM
ErinGoBraghHFC

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

That’s exactly the sort of opinion I’d expect from that poster tbf, more than a wee bit bizarre from time to time

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11-08-2023, 08:49 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by McD

bit of confusion here, I was meaning if we segregated by having Hibs fans on the upper tier and villa fans in the lower, we’d not need to leave seats empty up the middle of the stand

That can't happen.
11-08-2023, 08:49 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

That’s exactly the sort of opinion I’d expect from that poster tbf, more than a wee bit bizarre from time to time

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Straight out of the uber-fan playbook.
11-08-2023, 08:50 PM
007

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

Folk want to go to the bigger games. Shock horror. The justification for splitting the stand is that we will easily sell the tickets to our OWN supporters.

And the more folk we can get to the bigger games then the greater chance of encouraging some of them to then come to some of the less glamorous games.
11-08-2023, 08:58 PM
Renfrew_Hibby

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Originally Posted by Lancs Harp

Have you seen a European match at Liverpool, Arsenal, United, Spurs, City? Segregation is a line of stewards. No such European rule exists.

Yeah, half a dozen rows vertically at most. Not huge empty blocks as if we were playing der hun.
11-08-2023, 09:01 PM
Billy McKirdy

We couldn’t even fill our ends at Easter Road last night plus we’ve not even won through to the play off round yet anyway.
That lot from over the city has a waiting list for season tickets, on that basis we have no right to be demanding almost all of the stadium for our fans alone, I’m in the give them the whole south stand camp, not only do I think it’s the right thing to do, it will make the occasion itself much better for atmosphere.
I was at the 5-5 game in the south stand and it was a brilliant occasion but that was against the Orcs and the less of them in our stadium the better, we have a decent relationship with Villa, let’s keep it like that.
11-08-2023, 09:01 PM
BoomtownHibees

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

The same Hibs fan wanted the opposition to score against us at Hampden to speed up the departure of our manager so this doesn’t come as a surprise
11-08-2023, 09:01 PM
B.H.F.C

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Nah, what will be worrying most people is that if we reduce the Villa allocation, they might do the same to us meaning less chance of a ticket for ST holders and zero chance for non ST holders. Thats whats really going on here.

If we didn’t give them the full south, is which we wouldn’t, we won’t be reducing anything. We’d also be giving them a higher percentage of tickets than we’d get down there with half the stand.
11-08-2023, 09:02 PM
BoomtownHibees

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Originally Posted by Billy McKirdy

We couldn’t even fill our ends at Easter Road last night plus we’ve not even won through to the play off round yet anyway.
That lot from over the city has a waiting list for season tickets, on that basis we have no right to be demanding almost all of the stadium for our fans alone, I’m in the give them the whole south stand camp, not only do I think it’s the right thing to do, it will make the occasion itself much better for atmosphere.
I was at the 5-5 game in the south stand and it was a brilliant occasion but that was against the Orcs and the less of them in our stadium the better, we have a decent relationship with Villa, let’s keep it like that.

We have no right to sell more tickets to our own fans because Hearts have a waiting list??
11-08-2023, 09:03 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

That can't happen.

ah, my bad. I had asked if it could be done, and another poster suggested it could.

I’d asked as if it could be done, it would mean more seats could be sold as we wouldn’t need to keep any clear for segregation.
11-08-2023, 09:05 PM
Billy McKirdy

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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

We have no right to sell more tickets to our own fans because Hearts have a waiting list??

Maybe not my best argument but my point still stands, our fans are the most fickle around, a bad result and empty seats everywhere, truth is, we should do better than that as a support.
11-08-2023, 09:05 PM
jacomo

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

And the 'occasional' game just happens to be a semi or a final. Or Villa at home...

Again, yes, that’s how it is.

Especially with the Hibs, we seem to have a more volatile support than many clubs. Attendance can drop markedly after one poor result, but we can also fill half of Hampden.

But the baseline is getting bigger. There was an opinion when the new East was built that the extra capacity wasn’t needed… no one says that anymore.
11-08-2023, 09:06 PM
EH54

Just want to remind people, that the fans massively backed this team on Sunday with a home sell out. Only for many to go away bitterly disappointed again. The club holds a massive responsibility in ensuring fans continue to come back. Our supporters and fans don’t just attend and back the team when it’s a big game or a semi/finals.

Of course fans who can attend should attend but let’s not pretend hibs didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with the **** we seen on Sunday after fans massively backed the club again.

I would rather we got as many hibs fans into the ground for what would be a special occasion in the hope you build on the regulars have fans coming back for more etc…

Edited
11-08-2023, 09:06 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by McD

ah, my bad. I had asked if it could be done, and another poster suggested it could.

I’d asked as if it could be done, it would mean more seats could be sold as we wouldn’t need to keep any clear for segregation.

It can be split vertically inside but seats would need to be left free in order to do this on the stand side.
11-08-2023, 09:07 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

It can be split vertically inside but seats would need to be left free in order to do this on the stand side.

thanks, I was meaning horizontally splitting it though, wasn’t sure if it could be done or not
11-08-2023, 09:08 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by EH54

Just want to remind people, that the fans massively backed this team on Sunday with a home sell out. Only for many walk ups to go away bitterly disappointed again. The club holds a massive responsibility in ensuring fans continue to come back. Our supporters and fans don’t just attend and back the team when it’s a big game or a semi/finals.

Of course fans who can attend should attend but let’s not pretend hibs didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with the **** we seen on Sunday after fans massively backed the club again.

I would rather we got as many hibs fans into the ground for what would be a special occasion in the hope you build on the regulars have fans coming back for more etc…

Thats just silly, dont let Hibs fans in until they regularly turn up in bigger numbers, that will teach them.:faf:
11-08-2023, 09:08 PM
Hermit Crab

Quote:

Originally Posted by EH54

Just want to remind people, that the fans massively backed this team on Sunday with a home sell out. Only for many to go away bitterly disappointed again. The club holds a massive responsibility in ensuring fans continue to come back. Our supporters and fans don’t just attend and back the team when it’s a big game or a semi/finals.

Of course fans who can attend should attend but let’s not pretend hibs didn’t shoot themselves in the foot with the **** we seen on Sunday after fans massively backed the club again.

I would rather we got as many hibs fans into the ground for what would be a special occasion in the hope you build on the regulars have fans coming back for more etc…

Edited

Sold out? Half the Dunbar end was empty! Nowhere near a sell out.
11-08-2023, 09:10 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by Billy McKirdy

We couldn’t even fill our ends at Easter Road last night plus we’ve not even won through to the play off round yet anyway.
That lot from over the city has a waiting list for season tickets, on that basis we have no right to be demanding almost all of the stadium for our fans alone, I’m in the give them the whole south stand camp, not only do I think it’s the right thing to do, it will make the occasion itself much better for atmosphere.
I was at the 5-5 game in the south stand and it was a brilliant occasion but that was against the Orcs and the less of them in our stadium the better, we have a decent relationship with Villa, let’s keep it like that.

Good to realise that fellow Hibs fans would prefer total strangers from the Midlands to get tickets for a Hibs home game rather than people like me who simply can't get to every game because of where I live.

I'll happily pop along to York station to wave at any Villa fans from London on their way up to Edinburgh after which I'll go home and watch it on Hibs TV, like the worthless so called supporter I am.
11-08-2023, 09:12 PM
McD

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Sold out? Half the Dunbar end was empty! Nowhere near a sell out.

Home sell out - we weren’t selling tickets to Hibs fans for the Dunbar end.
11-08-2023, 09:13 PM
Billy McKirdy

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Good to realise that fellow Hibs fans would prefer total strangers from the Midlands to get tickets for a Hibs home game rather than people like me who simply can't get to every game because of where I live.

I'll happily pop along to York station to wave at any Villa fans from London on their way up to Edinburgh after which I'll go home and watch it on Hibs TV, like the worthless so called supporter I am.

Opinions mate, opinions.. if that’s your argument, let’s not have any villa fans at the game and maybe 20654 Hibs fans will miraculously turn up on the night.
11-08-2023, 09:16 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by Billy McKirdy

Opinions mate, opinions.. if that’s your argument, let’s not have any villa fans at the game and maybe 20654 Hibs fans will miraculously turn up on the night.

What opinion?

You'd rather villa fans went to the game instead of Hibs fans. That's a fact.

We should be encouraging as many Hibs fans to go to the game as we can.
11-08-2023, 09:17 PM
Frazerbob

Deary me, this thread is turning into a shocker!
11-08-2023, 09:17 PM
B.H.F.C

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Originally Posted by Billy McKirdy

Maybe not my best argument but my point still stands, our fans are the most fickle around, a bad result and empty seats everywhere, truth is, we should do better than that as a support.

It’s a terrible argument full stop. If you can sell the seats to Hibs fans, you sell them to Hibs fans. Every set of fans are fickle when they’re no very good. When Celtic weren’t very good under Delia they had whole sections closed and banners covering the empty seats. When Rangers were toiling first season in the championship we went there a couple of times and played in front of about 25,000.

Folk wanting to go to big games and big occasions is hardly a surprise.
11-08-2023, 09:22 PM
Billy McKirdy

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

It’s a terrible argument full stop. If you can sell the seats to Hibs fans, you sell them to Hibs fans. Every set of fans are fickle when they’re no very good. When Celtic weren’t very good under Delia they had whole sections closed and banners covering the empty seats. When Rangers were toiling first season in the championship we went there a couple of times and played in front of about 25,000.

Folk wanting to go to big games and big occasions is hardly a surprise.

Ok, we sell out our maximum allocation after villas minimum, fair enough, would love to see it happen, if that’s what happens.
Brilliant.
It’s all up in the air anyway, it’s half time in this round.
11-08-2023, 09:22 PM
Stairway 2 7

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Originally Posted by Frazerbob

Deary me, this thread is turning into a shocker!

It's so ridiculous I think many are trolling.
11-08-2023, 09:24 PM
Billy McKirdy

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

What opinion?

You'd rather villa fans went to the game instead of Hibs fans. That's a fact.

We should be encouraging as many Hibs fans to go to the game as we can.

I’d rather Hibs go through regardless, anyway, it’s a moot point, we’re not there…yet!!
11-08-2023, 09:24 PM
Stairway 2 7

I'm sure villa will give us around 6% and we'll give them around 9% half the stand. Both stadiums will sell out

Let's get there first
11-08-2023, 09:25 PM
Billy McKirdy

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

It's so ridiculous I think many are trolling.

I’m not trolling, I’m just not very good at this forum debating, that much is obvious.
Good night!! 👋
11-08-2023, 09:29 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

Is there not a bit of quid pro quo too in their reasoning. If we give Villa more then they may give us more so St holders would benefit from a once in a generation trip to a European game in England.

I'm not an uber fan any more but the Hibs fans I most value as those that go every week, those that go pretty much every week and then those that are ST holders and go to a reasonable number of away games. I'm probably out those groups now after a long time of being a part of them. If losing a few tickets for once in a blue moon Hibs fans means as many as possible of the Hibs fans that really support their club by putting there bums on a seat then that is a good thing imo. The biggest issue in that is we don't have any classification for fans barring the Hibs first group which is smaller than the allocation we will get for Villa and then ST holders which is far larger. I would hope other groups like Block 7 are not given any priority.

For that reason the allocation will be a lottery anyway for those outside the first group so lots of fans will miss out that really should get a ticket if the club hadn't abandoned a perfectly decent way of allocating tickets.
11-08-2023, 09:35 PM
Greenio

So we still have no idea if we are switching home/away games if both us n them get through?

Surely someone can say for certain what happens in this scenario?
11-08-2023, 09:41 PM
Stairway 2 7

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Originally Posted by wookie70

Is there not a bit of quid pro quo too in their reasoning. If we give Villa more then they may give us more so St holders would benefit from a once in a generation trip to a European game in England.

I'm not an uber fan any more but the Hibs fans I most value as those that go every week, those that go pretty much every week and then those that are ST holders and go to a reasonable number of away games. I'm probably out those groups now after a long time of being a part of them. If losing a few tickets for once in a blue moon Hibs fans means as many as possible of the Hibs fans that really support their club by putting there bums on a seat then that is a good thing imo. The biggest issue in that is we don't have any classification for fans barring the Hibs first group which is smaller than the allocation we will get for Villa and then ST holders which is far larger. I would hope other groups like Block 7 are not given any priority.

For that reason the allocation will be a lottery anyway for those outside the first group so lots of fans will miss out that really should get a ticket if the club hadn't abandoned a perfectly decent way of allocating tickets.

They will give us 6% maximum, its already online on their website section plan for the game with prices. They aren't going to cut that as we will give them at least that, probably closer to 9% half the stand
11-08-2023, 09:42 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

They will give us 6% maximum, its already online on their website section plan for the game with prices. They aren't going to cut that as we will give them at least that, probably closer to 9% half the stand

If there is no give and take from them then I would give them the exact same percentage
11-08-2023, 09:48 PM
Lancs Harp

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Originally Posted by wookie70

If there is no give and take from them then I would give them the exact same percentage

I think there's a minimum. Not sure if its the same split in Europe but for example the minimum ticket allocation for visiting teams in the EPL is 10% or 3000. The home team normally allocating which ofbthe two is lower.
11-08-2023, 09:50 PM
Jones28

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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

Why would it be silly? We’d sell that extra allocation for a game vs Villa to our own supporters no bother. I’m happy enough to lose a few rows of seating to segregation if it means more of our fans get a ticket.

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Me too, that’s what I’d want to happen anyway. I’m just not 100% certain it would.
11-08-2023, 09:51 PM
Jones28

Yikes, this thread has taken a turn..
11-08-2023, 09:54 PM
Trinity Hibee

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Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

We have no right to sell more tickets to our own fans because Hearts have a waiting list??

It gets even odder it seems
11-08-2023, 09:56 PM
blackpoolhibs

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

It gets even odder it seems

Perhaps those season ticket holders who cant get to the game should we get through, could donate them to Villa fans.
11-08-2023, 09:57 PM
Stairway 2 7

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Originally Posted by wookie70

If there is no give and take from them then I would give them the exact same percentage

We will have a maximum of about 2.8k as the section next to them are on sale already. Reasonable prices

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11-08-2023, 09:59 PM
Stairway 2 7

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Originally Posted by Lancs Harp

I think there's a minimum. Not sure if its the same split in Europe but for example the minimum ticket allocation for visiting teams in the EPL is 10% or 3000. The home team normally allocating which ofbthe two is lower.

5% in Europe. Their stadium is 42k
11-08-2023, 09:59 PM
cameronw-hfc

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Originally Posted by wookie70

Is there not a bit of quid pro quo too in their reasoning. If we give Villa more then they may give us more so St holders would benefit from a once in a generation trip to a European game in England.

I'm not an uber fan any more but the Hibs fans I most value as those that go every week, those that go pretty much every week and then those that are ST holders and go to a reasonable number of away games. I'm probably out those groups now after a long time of being a part of them. If losing a few tickets for once in a blue moon Hibs fans means as many as possible of the Hibs fans that really support their club by putting there bums on a seat then that is a good thing imo. The biggest issue in that is we don't have any classification for fans barring the Hibs first group which is smaller than the allocation we will get for Villa and then ST holders which is far larger. I would hope other groups like Block 7 are not given any priority.

For that reason the allocation will be a lottery anyway for those outside the first group so lots of fans will miss out that really should get a ticket if the club hadn't abandoned a perfectly decent way of allocating tickets.

Do Block 7 not do every home and away game as well as some girls games? Surely that sort of commitment deserves a bit of priority?
11-08-2023, 10:01 PM
hibee-boys

‘IF’ we get through that will be an almighty rush for tickets. Lucky if there is 2k left after comps/sponsorship/away season ticket holders🤔 I reckon we could have taken up double that amount of tickets.
11-08-2023, 10:02 PM
Hibbyradge

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

Do Block 7 not do every home and away game as well as some girls games? Surely that sort of commitment deserves a bit of priority?

Hibs fans should get priority over Villa fans as a matter of principle.

We have to give Villa 5% so if we can sell the rest to our own supporters, we should.
11-08-2023, 10:04 PM
cameronw-hfc

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

Hibs fans should get priority over Villa fans as a matter of principle.

We have to give Villa 5% so if we can sell the rest to our own supporters, we should.

I agree, my comment was referring to the poster that said block seven shouldn't get priority, when imo, they're the exact sort of fans that if we were giving priority, it should be to them
11-08-2023, 10:08 PM
Trinity Hibee

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

I agree, my comment was referring to the poster that said block seven shouldn't get priority, when imo, they're the exact sort of fans that if we were giving priority, it should be to them

With greatest of respect, I imagine many of block 7 will have been going to Hibs games for a lot less time than many ST holders so I don’t see how they should be given priority over others just because they sing/drum etc.

This has turned into probably the strangest discussion I’ve ever seen on here and that is saying something.
11-08-2023, 10:11 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc

I agree, my comment was referring to the poster that said block seven shouldn't get priority, when imo, they're the exact sort of fans that if we were giving priority, it should be to them

We were told at the AST holder relaunch night that block 7 would not be given priority over Hibs first members. I refuse to believe that though as they always get the same block at Tynecastle before everyone else get a chance to buy.
11-08-2023, 10:24 PM
ErinGoBraghHFC

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Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee

With greatest of respect, I imagine many of block 7 will have been going to Hibs games for a lot less time than many ST holders so I don’t see how they should be given priority over others just because they sing/drum etc.

This has turned into probably the strangest discussion I’ve ever seen on here and that is saying something.

Not even close to the strangest discussion I’ve seen on here, it does seems a bit pointless though. The strangest discussion by a fair distance is the good old Bojangs Barnet debacle. I so hope that was true.

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11-08-2023, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

Not even close to the strangest discussion I’ve seen on here, it does seems a bit pointless though. The strangest discussion by a fair distance is the good old Bojangs Barnet debacle. I so hope that was true.

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If that was the one when his agent tweeted just after he left then that was a classic. The weirdness was all the stuff he'd supposedly done. 😀
11-08-2023, 10:33 PM
hibee1875

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Once we consistently sell out home and away for a season or more (which we wont), then we will be in a position to start cutting allocations.

When have we ever given a European team the full stand? We’re not cutting anything
11-08-2023, 10:35 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

I was thinking similar, it's just weird. HC seems not only to hate the manager and the team but now also fellow fans. Not everyone can be an Überfan.
11-08-2023, 10:42 PM
Glory Lurker

Dinnae heave awa, boys. They're no deid yet.
11-08-2023, 10:45 PM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by hibee1875

When have we ever given a European team the full stand? We’re not cutting anything

When have we played a team in Europe capable of bringing 3800?
11-08-2023, 10:49 PM
Frazerbob

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

When have we played a team in Europe capable of bringing 3800?

Precisely, so there’s no precedent.
11-08-2023, 10:53 PM
tamig

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

They didny other last night did they?

There were only 13k there last night. That game didn’t hold the same attraction as a game against an EPL side boasting a club legend. You’re no really thinking this through very well.
11-08-2023, 10:57 PM
tamig

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Originally Posted by McD

can the south stand be segregated between the 2 tiers?

or would there still be mixing inside the stand?

The South Stand was split down the middle when the East was being built. Including visits from hertz and the hun.
11-08-2023, 10:59 PM
hibee1875

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

When have we played a team in Europe capable of bringing 3800?

Why does it matter how many they could bring.

Technically st mirren could have brought 3800. Did we cut their allocation to allow home fans in the south on Sunday?
11-08-2023, 11:13 PM
ErinGoBraghHFC

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Originally Posted by 007

If that was the one when his agent tweeted just after he left then that was a classic. The weirdness was all the stuff he'd supposedly done. [emoji3]

Oh no I’m referring to the supposed incident where the fire brigade had to attend. Also the chopper incident was a good one. I miss Bojang sometimes.

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11-08-2023, 11:22 PM
007

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Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC

Oh no I’m referring to the supposed incident where the fire brigade had to attend. Also the chopper incident was a good one. I miss Bojang sometimes.

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I think I must have missed that thread but all that came up again after the agent tweet. The chopper and the flatmate's girfriend. 😮
12-08-2023, 12:24 AM
NAE NOOKIE

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

In your opinion.

And mine.
12-08-2023, 12:38 AM
Hermit Crab

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

And mine.

Happy to chat about it over a pint in Lucerne, everyones got different views on things, some more controversial than others. :aok:
12-08-2023, 12:41 AM
NAE NOOKIE

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

It's mind boggling that a Hibs fan would deny other Hibs fans tickets for the benefit of opposition fans.

I genuinely can't believe that.

Me neither mate, seriously couldn't believe anybody would dream of suggesting such a thing.

Jeezo, I'm the first to criticise fans for not turning up, especially for big games like derbies or semi finals, or in fact the game on Thursday past. But the fact is that we have a fanbase well capable of selling out a home game with Aston Villa even without an away allocation being given to them. In the end these 'casual' fans are why we can sell 24,000 tickets for finals at Hampden and folk shouldn't forget that.

But if there is any prospect that we can have 18,000 of our own fans in the stadium for this game ( should it happen ) then that should be our first and only priority I simply can't believe any Hibs fan would seriously suggest giving Aston Villa the whole of the south at the expense of our own fans ... no matter how 'casual' they might be .. as you say, bloody mind boggling.

The way some folk are behaving you would think our average crowd was about 10,000 and not the 17,000 plus it was last season. Over 17,000 last Sunday for a league game against St Mirren FFS. Not an EPL giant with a modern day Hibs legend in it's midfield ... St Mirren.
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12-08-2023, 01:18 AM
NAE NOOKIE

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

Happy to chat about it over a pint in Lucerne, everyones got different views on things, some more controversial than others. :aok:

Well, I'll be in the boozer before our next home game if that helps :greengrin
12-08-2023, 02:34 AM
Fanforlife

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

When have we played a team in Europe capable of bringing 3800?

Liverpool twice,Leeds United twice.
12-08-2023, 05:34 AM
CentreLine

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Originally Posted by Fanforlife

Liverpool twice,Leeds United twice.

Absolutely right but both pre-segregation to be fair. Those were great days indeed
12-08-2023, 07:45 AM
Hibernian Verse

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Originally Posted by Hermit Crab

They dinny come back though. They turn up or villa, we likely take a pounding then they scream some abuse and disappear again, I'd rather they stayed away.

Villa away (if it happens) will be absolute carnage ticket wise. Going to be a lot of arguing and bickering.

Not for us HC :cb
12-08-2023, 07:50 AM
KeithTheHibby

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

I'm sure villa will give us around 6% and we'll give them around 9% half the stand. Both stadiums will sell out

Let's get there first

A sensible statement amongst a lot of rubbish 👏

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