He didn't expose anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
The gang had already been caught.
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He didn't expose anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
The gang had already been caught.
Don't you have huff post links to share?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I said I don't read British First material so he cant 100% accurate.
Furthermore the cause of death has not been determined. I stand corrected on the part that he may not have been murdered.
When did I last post a Huffington Post link?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
He didn't actually say you read anything, that's what you read into it, but if the cap fits ...
He did so, he said the British First stuff I read. Your just being silly now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I'm being silly? You're all over this thread with nonsense. From the bacon guy getting murdered by a Muslim prisoner to Huff Post links. :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
"It’s amazing what you can find out by doing 15 seconds of research instead of just believing what you read on Britain First’s Facebook page"
That's 100% correct.
Or do you prefer "one" as a pronoun?
I read it as "one" rather than "you" personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
Zackly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Well you could read it one way or another I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Plus, by deliberately breaking reporting restrictions he knows that regular media organisations will respect, he gets to pretend there's a conspiracy of silence covering up behind anything bad Muslims do. "Look at me, the brave reporter uncovering the truth". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SRHibs
"one" could. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
I apologise. I honestly wasn't meaning to insinuate you read Britain First nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
It was purely an example of how many people get their ill-informed views. I've lost count of the number of times I have had to explain to my own mother that she needs to read up on a subject before hitting the Share button on Facebook, or at minimum look at who the source is.
Your apology is warmly accepted!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Yes I jumped the gun a wee bit with my post. For what it's worth im sure Tommy Robinson would have liked the trial to collapse so he could gain leverage on it.
The regular media have previous as well in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
He wasn’t exposing them though. They were already on trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
What he was doing was prejudicing the case. Something he had a previous suspended sentence for. The judge just kicked in his sentence.
J
Islam is not compatible with any other religion....as they want to implement their laws wherever it steps.Quote:
Originally Posted by SRHibs
Look at History.
The bacon guy is true..happened in Bristol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Got a year in jail for putting abit of bacon on the mosques door handle.
Got murdered by a Radical Muslim.
I will find a link and post it.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/775026/BRISTOL-PROTEST-demonstrations-EDL-Anti-FA-kevin-crehan-bacon-mosque/amp
The strange thing is though,that when he was killed...it was on the news that he had been killed in jail.
Now its hard to find a reference to him being killed as such.
Fact is however...BBC are pro Muslim!
When does it ever pop up in mainstream media about there being a problem with the Muslim community in reference to them integrating.
Christ they even cant stand eachother(Sunni amd Shia)
"They" are a broad religion, made up of many sects and divisions, just as Christianity and Judaism. The majority are able to live in peace with the other Abrahamic religions. As with those religions, it's the fringe minorities that are dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
You can't generalise about any religion in the strength of extremists.
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The inquest into the guy's death doesn't start until December.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.c...e-7573478/amp/
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Look into history,and most places in the middle east werent originally Muslim.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
They come,they take over...they rule!
If you dont like it...You die!
That is fact!
That is why we are infidels....and they carry signs saying death to infidels!
Dangerous misinterpreted versions of the Koran are the blame!
But believe kalergi plan is real!
Islam is how it will be ruled!
Look at how things are going....and please tell me im wrong.
They... again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Why do you insist on conflating all of Islam with extremism? And why make up **** like the guy being murdered in prison? That does nobody any favours.
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Cause its their way or the highway....and that is also why you have no choice but to eat Halal meat wherever you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
This is a Christian country whether you like it or not.
But I guarantee that meat you had tonight WAS Halal.
And Zakat tax on it...which has links to terrorism.
That is fact...and basic research of any kind will prove im right.
Again with the assumptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
I haven't had meat in a long time. Basic research would prove I'm right [emoji16] As would research on the bacon guy....
Is the UK a Christian country? I'd say we were more pluralistic than that.
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Again,You dont give me facts to say im wrong...just twist it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
What I said is right.
Go back 100 or 80 years...would our forefathers that fought and died for this country(i lost alot of family during the war)....Would they of just bent over and accepted Islam taking over?
Of course they wouldnt!
Look at the mayor of most influencial cities!
What do they have in common my friend???
You were wrong about the bacon guy. I posted the link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
You are wrong about Islam. I've travelled extensively in Muslim countries, and seen first-hand that the majority are peaceful and decent people. Those who pervert that notion, on both sides, do the rest of us no favours at all.
As for the point about people dying in the war.... you do know about the 400,000 Muslims who fought in the British Army in WW1 yeah?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bir...s-10325190.amp
The mayors? I'm guessing that they're all democratically elected. Do I win a prize?
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Bacon guy was allover the news at the time..he had been killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Ive been to many Muslim countries too....Try going out the complex in future.
Being from somewhere else...its extremely dangerous.
Well Turkey,Tunisia,Algeria,Egypt,Pakistan.
Try there.
Radical Islam only really exploded at the fall of Saddam.
But look at the religious history of most countries in the middle east,and look at the Koran...then you will see.
My first Christmas away from home was when I was 18 and was made a lot more bearable by the many vocal Merry Christmas messages from the locals in Bahrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Nice people, just like the vast majority of people here who are far too nice to call you out for what you are.
Did you read the link I posted? The inquest into his death doesn't start until December. However, if you know the truth, you can save us all a lot of money and just tell the coroner yourself [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Oh.... I have never been in a "complex" in any Muslim country. Another prejudicial assumption trashed.
Must dash. My neighbours are just sitting down to eat. [emoji11]
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Paying them money in their country...how do you expect the locals tobe??Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Paying them money? I was working there and didn’t spend a penny. Keep digging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
This thread. FFS.
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Did you know that the Christians in the UDA and the Christians in the IRA weren't/aren't exactly the best of pals?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Is that different?
If Muslims are 'taking over' they are doing a pretty crap job.
Circa 5% of the population, 2.3% of MPs in the Commons, 1.2% of the members of the House of Lords, in the history of the Scottish Parliament there have been only 4 Muslims MSPs, Northern Ireland has never had a Muslim MLA, no Muslims make up the senior Judiciary team, there are approx 1075 Mosques in the UK compared to over 50000 Christian Churches, only 3.5% of senior positions in FTSE100 companies are held by any ethnic or cultural minority.....
Still you can get Halal meat in Tesco now so it's practically the same as living in Saudi Arabia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
WTF? You seriously need to read some history books. And some economic history too.
This post tells me you have never spent time with local People in these countries - the overriding feeling you get as a visitor is of the most incredible friendliness and welcome - it is beyond anything you experience in the West - you are welcomed into their home Like a family
Member...they feed you and look after you in a way that is of incredible warmth and caring ...and with a consistency that it is impossible not to notice in these parts of the world
Your views seem to be aligned to the propaganda of the right wing groups and media ....it is interesting that you talk and Islam as if it is a unified view , rather than extremists ..religious divides have caused almost every war since humans wandered the earth - and if you have noticed radical
Islam more since the fall of Saddam - have you ever considered that is primarily due to the monstrous impact of normal people in the Iraq and Afghanistan caused by the warfare brought on to them through allied bombing ?
Sounds like a Dave King style takeover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
As is typical from you, no facts to support anything - just hyperbole, hatred and lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
You're a narrow-minded little bigot, and you've not visited any of these places or you'd know how full of **** that post is.
I've travelled around Iran, Turkey, Morocco, and Egypt - I've embraced the cultures I've visited, eaten their food, respected their ways and have received nothing, NOTHING, but respect and hospitality back.
Sling your hook already.
I think comparisons to Christianity and cultures in other countries is slightly irrelevant. We really need to look at places in our own country with high Muslim populations to see if there are any issues and ask ourselves how we can solve them and think about what is going wrong. Christianity is on the decline in the UK while Islam is the fastest growing religion in Europe, with nearly 10% of the population expected to be Muslim in a decades time so intigration is going to be important.
Unfortunately, there are apparently big problems in Northern towns like Blackburn etc...where some communities have been allowed to separate into religious and racial divides and fear has taken over. Its a complex issue but I believe that part of solving this will be to challenge any beliefs within any community that present an obstacle to integration. While right wing views must be challenged, we mustn't be afraid to ask questions of Islam and talk about the mysoginistic, homophobic nature of some of its more radical followers.
Personally, I have no strong opinion as I live in a place that's about as ethnically diverse as a Hearts game so I don't see the problems (or positive things when a true multicultural society works) that others might do. One thing I do have is strong opinions on women's and gay rights and any belief that considers these groups, or anyone else to be inferior has no place in our modern society.
Nothing should be off the table when it comes to discussions moving forward as all it will lead to is more division, more mistrust and more alienated angry young men who become entrenched and extreme. Shutting down debate in the name of racial harmony or pretending everything is perfect hasn't worked in the past. How we do all this without upsetting certain people within certain beliefs is another matter.
Something to ponder is that Muslims are as much a victim to their ideology than anyone else.
A lot of muslims are indoctrinated into Islam at an early age and this is all they know. Granted that could be said about all religions.
How did we get from a thread about an 80's pop star and gay icon to talking pish about religous intolerance.
Up the 2468 motorway, surely 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
We have our own home grown religious extremists as well. Some prop up the government for the whole country......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-44328000
Excellent post, I've been trying to work out what to say on this thread for ages now but you have put it more succinctly than I ever couldQuote:
Originally Posted by Pete
Sing if you're happy that wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Geo_1875
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This could lead to war baby
Alternatively, it could be just Now Playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Fleece
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The Tommy Robinson news caused me to donate to the first two charities regardless of his actions or the home secretary's desire to keep this quiet. I think there are a lot of unreported cases of sexual grooming and violence spread right throughout almost every social group in almost every country on the planet. It's heartbreaking but some charities are working hard to educate people and help the victims.
I couldn't give a **** about Robinson or Sajid Javid's interests regarding these horrific crimes. They are probably just the tip of a large iceberg.
Lucy Faithful Foundation - £750
Safe and Sound Group - $1050
I made donations to Karuna Trust (based in UK but targeting India) after hearing about several political and/or religious gang rapes of young girls in India. I was so enraged at these stories that I wondered why we can't send the SAS to wipe out the perpetrators.
Karuna Trust has excellent patrons like Dame Judy Dench and Ben Kingsley who must have been touched while making movies out in India. I think this charity does some excellent work.
Karuna Trust (Specific project for Dalit female victims of violence) - $1000
I like to donate at home too where these problems don't make it much onto the happy news reports.
RAINN - $1000
Regardless of free speech or all the political capital that various individuals or groups try to make out of this we have to support the victims.
I am sure there are loads of other charities. Please recommend.
As i understand it future, on court property, including outdoor,different rules apply. It is frequently ignored as often we see people leaving court and journalists on the steps trying to get a photo/comment but technically they are in breach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
TR was on the public street and talking into his phone.
Irrespective of views on that individual, and yes he had a suspended sentence sure, but when it becomes normalised to just nick someone on the street for a phone call, then a complete media ban for days only lifted due to social media pressure we have reached a scary place indeed.
Of course people are just people, give me the child until they are 7 and all that. ideologies are the determinant.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
in Iran I believe there is a growing underground of secularism/atheism, but with apostacy being a death sentence, fear is understandable.
I see Morrissey has jumped to Robinson's defence! I used to love Morrissey but he seems to have taken a huge swing to the right which has put me off.
MR SPINACH: I wish to register a complaint!
MR GAMMON: Sorry, we're closed --
MR SPINACH: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this politician what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
MR GAMMON: Oh yes, the Tommy Robinson. What's wrong with it?
MR SPINACH: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. It's racist, that's what's wrong with it!
MR GAMMON: No, no, he's... er... taking an extreme stance to provoke debate.
MR SPINACH: Look, matey, I know a racist politician when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
MR GAMMON: He's not racist, he's provocative! Remarkable politician, the Tommy Robinson, innit. Beautiful verbiage.
MR SPINACH: The verbiage don't enter into it. He's a massive racist.
MR GAMMON: No, no, no! He's just provocative!
MR SPINACH: All right then! If he's provocative, I'll rouse him! [Shouts at the politician] Ello, Mr Yaxley Lennon! I've got a lovely deputation of Bangladeshi protestors for you --
[The politician reacts.]
MR GAMMON: There, that wasn't racist!
MR SPINACH: Oh, it was! He pulled a face! That politician is definitely racist, and when I purchased it not half an hour ago, you assured me that its ill-advised choice of language and regrettable actions were due to bad judgment caused by being weary from campaigning to save the English people!
MR GAMMON: Well he's probably... pining for free speech.
MR SPINACH: Pining for free speech? What kind of talk is that? And why did he try to start a protest outside the Court before I even got him home? He's bleeding racist!
MR GAMMON: He's not racist, he's... opinionated!
MR SPINACH: He is not opinionated! He's a massive racist! He's prejudiced! He's intolerant! He's xenophobically sectarian! He's a huge illiberal! He displays bias pursuant to the shade of dermatological integuement of a subject! He's so far right he's halfway back to left again! THIS IS A BIGOTED POLITICIAN!
MR GAMMON [wilting]: Well, I'd better replace it then. How about this Boris Johnson?
MR SPINACH: Is he racist?
MR GAMMON [unwillingly]: ...a bit.
MR SPINACH: Well he's no bleeding better than the other one, is he?
MR GAMMON: I've got a shop soiled Jeremy Corbyn.
MR SPINACH: Shop soiled? How can you tell?
MR GAMMON: I think we're getting away from the original point of the joke, here, sir.
MR SPINACH: And it's getting silly.
MR GAMMON: All right, let's stop.
:agree: Quite frightening evidence of how the narrow-minded cannot be swayed regardless of what's put in front of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
As for the retort about paying them money. Even if that had been the case... is it now being suggested that muslims in general are nice, welcoming, peace-loving guys when they're making money.. but turn into axe-wielding savages who want to take over the world as soon as the money stops?!
Absolutely brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
:applause: :top marks
It is. Obviously not my work :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
You could have kept shtum so more Kudos on its way to you. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I just wish I could see Cleese and Palin doing it.
95% if Robinson supporters are either middle aged football thugs, people of lowIQ or criminals. And almost exclusively male.
They are incapable of telling the difference between race and religion. The fact is that no rapists are Muslims. The minute a person claiming to be Muslim commits rape, they merely prove that they are not a follower of Islam.
I'm not sure that follows.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Lots of people break their own religion's rules. Catholics go to confession and receive forgiveness afterwards.
A simpleton's explanation of events.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
Did you really need to insult?Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeTeam
As far as I'm aware, Muslims cannot go to an Imam for confession...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Think the point is that there is no such thing as perfection in any religion. All followers have weak and "wrong" moments. By themselves, that doesn't necessarily render them excluded from their particular faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranraer
On your particular point, some Muslims can get dispensation from Imams, for example during Ramadan it's possible to be excused by reason of health and other issues.
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:aok: cheers for that. I had confession just last week and after it forgot to ask the Priest cause he seems to know a lot about other religions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
That wasn't my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranraer
Folk break their religion's rules all the time, it's called sinning. They still identify themselves as Christian, Jewish, Muslim etc.
My reference to confession was to underline that point.
Murderers, rapists, peadophiles, burglars etc don't get excommunicated, actually or spiritually, as soon as they commit a crime.
Yeah sorry man I think I missed the point there :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I coveted my neighbour's ass last week, and I haven't had the Wee Frees tanning my windows yet.
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They are waiting on you turning the other cheek :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I see there was riots at the free Tommy March today. Which is strange because
1) his name isn't Tommy
2) I Thought they hated folk "coming over here and not respecting the law"
or is it just the first part that's the problem?
The guy who harps on about "muslims" disrespecting our laws consistently disrespects and breaks our laws on a daily basis. The guy is a picture of hypocrisy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
A day to be proud of. Nazi salutes on the UK's streets, attacks and running riots with our police. Journalists beaten up, medics assaulted, drunken crowds cheering on openly fascist speeches and an attempt to storm Whitehall. Proud day for the British people. This is what the start of the end looks like, we've seen it happen all around the world where hate gains the upper hand and chaos ensues. The lesson from history is not that the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews, the lesson from history is to understand why millions of ordinary Germans thought it was acceptable to do so. We're walking blindly into civil war and some are even encouraging it. Well you reap what you sow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Just seen this getting shared about Facebook..
I am not ashamed of being a Tommy Robinson fan because Ive seen what he's about and not just copied someone's ignorant opinion.I find a lot of people either have false opinions of Tommy Robinson or don't know much about him. Here's a few FACTS to fill the gaps.
Tommy grew up in Luton a very multicultural Town. He had friends from all race and religions growing up, even 3 Muslims at his wedding. Early teenage years he noticed early signs of Pakistani grooming gangs so set up the EDL to make people aware of radical Islam spreading around the Country. EDL became the biggest group of it's kind in Europe and this made him a target for the police.He changed his name to Tommy Robinson to try isolate his family from any attacks. He is constantly harrassed and followed by haters and police. Yes he has a criminal record, grossly exaggerated by the
haters, mainly for being drunk,football fighting, attacking an inmate who going to pour boiling water on him, trying to enter America for a rally on another passport, attacking a man waving an ISIS flag next to a policeman who did nothing, attacking an EDL member for being a far right Nazi, arrested on a dying childs charity walk when clearly attacked and luckily caught on film, mortgage fraud where actually wasn't him but a family member but came to a compromise with police if they left his family alone he would plead guilty and do a small sentence, arrested for contempt of court for shouting at paedo rapists in court. So hardly a big time criminal in fact most arrests quite honourable ! Left EDL when out from prison because the far right had taken over. Actually he's hated by far right as much as muslims. Now he basically tries to inform the public of what is actually going on in this Country that the Police, Media and Government don't want us to know about so he is a massive target .He states facts about Islam, it's beliefs and objectives. He has now been imprisoned again for doing a live stream video outside a court only stating facts that was on the BBC website after clearly being seen asking a policemen outside the court if he was OK to do this. So 13 months and sent to Hull moderate prison.
There was a massive 30,000 protest in London with backing from all over the world with no media coverage. Weekend after massive march the decision straight from the Home Secretary Sajid Javid (😕) to move him to highly volatile muslim predominant prison was made. They want him to disappear. His popularity has gone global now and the media are trying to hide it.
So if anyone wanted a quick Summary to who this Hitler character is there you have it. Me personally think he's just a bit of a rogue who loves his Country and its values and in his words is happy to sacrifice his life if it means his kids grow up in a safer world . Constantly portrayed as a far right racist which is clearly not true . How can he be spreading hate if he's just stating facts ? He's done many campaigns for rape victims, dying children trips to Florida , injured soldiers, charity work etc etc. He should be ****ing Knighted but the average man on the street just knows what they are fed by the media. I suppose you have to be a bit of a rogue to have the bravery to do what he does.
If you don't care about your Country I'm sorry to bore you. 🍺
The honourable arrests bit is superb. Went to jail for mortgage fraud but it wasn’t him, he just lied in court and to the police so they’d think it was him. Which also makes him a fanny. And I’m so glad the statement was finished with a pint emoji, it fits the stereotypical TR fan persona “lads lads lads, pints pints pints” very well.
I make it at least 9 criminal charges in that paragraph. He’s a real lovable rogue is oor Tommy, he’s just misunderstood and victimised.
"He should be Knighted."
:angelic:
You mean like their prophet...that doesnt have a prophecy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RIP
I assume you unfollowed this character?Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
That’s a belter, the highlights being the points you mentioned
The thing about right-wingers facts is that they are usually big, fat lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Trager
Mein Kampf is quite explicit on the value of telling big lies as a political strategy and they all seem to follow this philosophy.
Why have we got a six page thread on a waste of oxygen like Robinson? Anyone who assumes the name of a notorious football hooligan isn't to be take seriously. A total ned with penchant for self-publicity. Other than demagoguery, I don't see what he contributes to anything.
The thing that you and most people dont understand in fairness....Enoch Powell was right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
British couples generally have about 2 kids.
Muslims couple about 9.
Do the Maths there...and figure out what will happen.
Its already happening
Look at history!
In this lifetime,unless something is done...UK will become another Islamic state!
Simple multiplying explains this!
Uh huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
https://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...e-times-census
"Almost a tenth of babies and toddlers in England and Wales are Muslim"
So, I'm doing my maths. That means that 90% aren't.
What about all those children born to Muslims who will decide they don't give a flying **** about religion and become part of the atheist masses? Should we be concerned about growing atheism in the UK?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
They'll be Muslamic atheists, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Please tell me this an ironic post and not representative of your true beliefs? I'd expect to read this kind of crap on a Rangers forum, but never thought I'd see it on a Hibs one. I really hope it's just dark humour on your part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Next to agnostic Buddostanis they're the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
what percentage of the overall population is muslim?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
As it says in the link, 5%.Quote:
Originally Posted by beensaidbefore
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You'll be proud that your style is a replica of Trump's. Inappropriate exclamation marks galore. I don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Thanks. can't open link on my phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
A wild guess here, but did you happen to vote for Brexit by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
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[emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by beensaidbefore
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So what, Who cares ?? The country will evolve to whatever it becomes.....and the good ethos of communities will shine through....many years ago there wasn't such a thing as "Britain" , there were different cultures in tribes...., Picts, celts, Anglo saxons....change happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
you simply have a hate for people of another religion...frankly, it is barbaric....
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The Rangers forums are still making that point about Irish catholics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
There are less than 3 million Muslims in the UK.
There are around 5 million Catholics.
I did the maths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
If the Muslamics are having 9 kids, the Taigs are having 15.
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A few weeks ago we had a Baptist Minister comes to our Church for Mass. He read the Gospel reading then gave the homily afterwards. He opened by saying it was a pleasure to be with us and that one of the members of his own Church had remarked it was a ‘miracle’ he was partaking in a Catholic Mass and that our Priest would be making a reciprocal visit to their Church a week later. Whilst there is an emphasis on miracles in the Christian faith on this occasion it wasn’t a miracle. It was hard work and a good dose of common sense. For a few years several of the churches in the area have worked together to engage in ecumenical activities and community projects. There’s a couple of Catholic Churches, 2 or 3 Church of Scotland, a Baptist and an Episcopalian. As such there’s an understanding amongst those who attend the respective Churches that working together has benefits and that ultimately our beliefs are pretty similar.
In the time that has passed since our Priest met with an Imam from a Glasgow Mosque. His name escapes me but apparently he was seen as a bit revolutionary because he was one of the 1st in the UK to preach exclusively in English as opposed to Arabic. He visited the Church and wrote a few nice words in the visitor book. There was also a meeting with a Rabbi from the Synagogue in Edinburgh and he extended an invite for anyone interested to go and visit and be shown around the Synagogue and learn about the Jewish service, he said he hoped a few of his regular attendees could also come and have a look around the Church and try to understand Catholicism a bit better.
It made me think that I really don’t recall ever interacting with a Jewish person in over a decade. I had one mate at Uni who was Jewish and that’s it. Likewise I have no Muslim friends and only a couple of very distant acquaintances. I wonder how typical that is? How many people get their views on other faiths, or those of no faith, from indirect secondary sources? How much does the media, mainstream or otherwise, influence our opinion of those who are ‘different’ from us? I wonder how many of Robinson’s followers interact closely with Muslims on a daily or weekly basis and whether they do so with with an open mind.
Dishonesty and the ignorance of others are powerful tools for those who wish to influence people for their own agendas. Listening to and learning about people of different faiths and those of no faith are the best weapons there are to combat that.
Are Muslims not British :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
Just a guess, but I suspect his concern hasn’t really anything to do with religion and he’s more concerned about a decreasing percentage of proppa British white folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
My Dad was a minister in Bo'ness way back. All the ministers and Catholic priest used to meet monthly to share and support each other. Unfortunately the Catholic Priest used to have the windows in his house smashed in fairly regularly so the support was mainly for him. It was a very forward thinking meeting though especially given the amount of bigotry at that time. I'd like to think that the same kindness and understanding would be extended to any other religious leaders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I have attended all kinds of churches temples etc. Am going to a mosque next month but have to go with my friends husband cos it's strictly seperated by gender as was the Hindu temple I attended. Would be nice to see that eradicated but am genuinely looking forward to my visit.
His posts are laughable tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
But but bit where are they REALLY from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye
It really is a shame you crawled back out from underneath your rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan69
This forum is a much better place without you on it.
Take your bigotry and **** off already.
No. Lapsed Episcopalians are the worst. (hangs head in shame)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
About any Catholics. They may love discrimination, but they don't pick and choose between the Catholics, and now they have the Muslims; that's three billion people to slander in one go. Good times. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr