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Originally Posted by hibs#1
Angle v Styles for the title at Wrestlemania we can dream.
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
Angle v Styles for the title at Wrestlemania we can dream.
Got to give styles a big match that would do me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
That ending to Raw last night http://i.imgur.com/GkHkVKq.gif?1
Can see Taker or Goldberg or someone unexpected winning the rumble.
Hoping it's Taker to set up Cena-Taker.
Apparently wwe has pulled Angle from all events this weekend.
I have no idea who is going to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Could be Goldberg,Lesnar,undertaker,strowman,balor,Samoa Joe
Seen a lot of chat about orton and wyatt for potential winners aswell and of course there will be fewes surprise entries Im guessing angle will be one.
Feels thereally really going all out this year some years it's been painfully obvious who's going to win.
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
About 8 spots left. So a few smackdown guys like Kane and Crews with returns and some debuts with some legends.
I'll mark out if Angle and Omega (we can dream) end up in the Rumble on Sunday.
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Orton now favourite on paddy power.
Think angle will be there.don't think omega will be there on Sunday,I do think he will sign though.
No omega by the looks of it sadly.
Apparently a decision on Balor's status was due to be made by the medical team this week. I'd love to see him win it but I have no idea who is likely to, I heard rumours that they were changing their minds on a daily basis.
Hoping finn balor is back tonight.
With nakamura losing the title, I wouldn't be surprised to see him and Jo enter at some point.
Balor to win, but I've got a feeling it'll be the undertaker with Cena and reigns dethroning owens and styles.
Samoa Joe has got to be involved tonight somehow.hopefully balor will make it,tye dillinger will surely be number 10?
Still think angle will come out sure there will be an other couple of surprises don't think nakamura will be one.
Fancy x-pac to make an appearance.
As an aside how good is bobby roode's entrance?
Don't care what people say but having a great entrance that the fans can join in with is a massive part of getting over.
Orton is heavy favourite with sky bet (1/12) and Ladbrokes (1/8). So looks like he's winning it.
Balor second favourite with both.
The Orton one keeps coming up, but he's not really been featured in a royal rumble storyline which made me doubt it. It is a nice change to the last few years actually not knowing who's going to win before hand!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Would be really annoyed if Orton does win it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee62
I'm buzzing for tonight's ppv. Rumble's so unpredictable for once. AJ-Cena will have another great match. I have a feeling Angle will show up tonight and i'll mark out like a little kid again since Angle is one of my favourite wrestlers of all time.
I saw an interesting prediction by Mike Johnson (PW Insider reporter) re AJ-Cena. He predicted Kassius Ohno and Samoa Joe would come out to aid AJ and form some sort of indie club. Can't see it actually happening but it could be fun'Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
The actual Rumble was terrible.
John Cena's match was off the charts! Deserved 16 time champion.
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Originally Posted by HappyHanlon
The fact they had Roman enter the rumble and making him runner up again was worse than 2015. Would be willing to say if he won that the fans in the arena would have started a riot.
I enjoyed the rumble right up until number 30. Sitting here wondering if 30 would be Joe or balor and thinking they'd go on to win it, but instead we get reigns. Absolutely no need in him being in that match other than sticking the finger up to the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
It does leave it open for balor to win the universal championship at WM though, assuming it will be reigns v taker and cena v orton (for the millionth time).
I've just read a rumour that it will be Goldberg v Owens at Fastlane, and that universal title matches are not being advertised for any live events until wrestlemania. The implication being that Goldberg will win it in a few weeks and lesnar will get a shot at WM33. I would think this also means we're not getting any balor until after WM.
Dissapointed in the rumble no surprise entrants really then the main three are out in the higher numbers. The script writers have clearly stuck two fingers up at the fans given who won and no major suprises.
I think for wrestlemania it will be reigns v taker
Rollins v hhh
Orton v Cena again
Owens v Corbin
Not watched it yet but doesn't look too good from reports
Dobt get why they have strowman cost reigns the title then have reigns come out at no 30?don't know what they are trying to accomplish with that.
Other than glad to see tye dillinger debut hope he goes to smackdown and looking forward to watching styles vs cena
Dissapointed not to get Samoa Joe or balor at the rumble but I think Joe will debut this week.
Corbin and owens are on different rostersQuote:
Originally Posted by pontius pilate
I wonder how the bookies knew Orton was going to win it. Leaked info?
My guess is someone who knew who would win, put a massive wedge on and moved the markets.Quote:
Originally Posted by nellio
Interesting to see who appeared last night ....
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Originally Posted by pontius pilate
AJ vs Cena was easily the highlight of the night. Rumble itself was pretty pedestrian, except for the short period of Goldberg, was disappointed there was no surprise/touted names at all.
agree with your picks for WM except possibly Owens vs Corbin, think it might be Owens vs Jericho, as an end to their partnership, possibly linked into the above rumour of Goldberg taking the universal title (Jericho tries to interfere and fails/causes Owens to lose)
Also heard it could be Orton v Wyatt at WM Wyatt to face cena at next ppv setting up that match for WM
Styles vs cena was very good.hopefully they use aj well going forward he absolutely is one of the best in the world cena for all the criticism is very entertaining.
I didn't think the rumble was that bad I actually enjoyed it granted I didn't start with high hopes due to all the reports.
Not a classic but enjoyable.apart from shoving reigns down everyone's throat,he could be a star but his booking is all wrong.
Don't have high hopes for the Wrestlemania
The matches that are rumoured don't fill me with confidence
Styles vs mcmahon.
Taker vs reigns.
Now there are rumours of cena being in a mixed gender tag match sound *****.
The next smackdown PPV is an elimination chamber, which will make it easier to put the title on wyatt. I'm still not convinced though, I'm fully expecting cena v orton...Quote:
Originally Posted by pontius pilate
Rollins appears to have reinjured his knee, news sites suggesting it's real and not storyline.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo:boo hoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee62
Here's the WM card if things don't change. Have to laugh at some of the matches.
Bill Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar for the Universal title
Undertaker vs. Reigns. (Passing the Torch)
HHH vs. Seth Rollins. "Obviously this is in jeopardy right now."
Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton for the WWE title
Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens likely for US Title
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
Big Show vs. Shaquille O’Neal
Charlotte vs. Bayley vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon.
To be honest, some of those matches aren't as bad as they could have been. Although my opinion is likely to change dep being on who wins some of those. if reigns had been booked differently from the start I wouldn't mind him beating taker but he's not what the McMahon's wish he was! However, assuming lesnar beats goldberg, the idea of balor or Joe v lesnar is quite interesting! I wonder if balor v Joe is a possibility too...?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
The last rumour I heard was that Rollins was facing 2 months out, which would mean he returns right on WM... risky!
Sounds like rollins will make it which is good
Hope they look after Samoa Joe think he'll be a great addition to the raw main event.
By the looks of it Goldberg will beat owens.
Wtf is the point of that? He's unlikely to be here in 6 months never mind 6 years. Build owens up. He's the future.
For him to drop it to Lesnar. Who in turn is apparently to keep until summerslam then drop it to the next guy (roman reigns again)Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
The title does need some prestige but they could have had that if they had let owens destroy Lesnar or Goldberg then have the next guy beat him then you have 2 new stars.
Guys like Lesnar Goldberg the rock hhh undertaker etc. will always be popular no matter how many loses they take its the younger guys that need the big wins.
Look at Chris jericho arguably the most popular guy at the minute and he hardly ever wins.
Bray wyatt new wwe champion.pleased for the guy one of the best characters they have.still don't get why they let styles lose at the rumble should have lost it last night,I like cena but he didn't need to win for 2 weeks,not against cena tying or beating flairs record just not when it made more sense.
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
That chamber match was out-****ing-standing. Cena-AJ rivalry is amazing on every level. These guys should be main-evening wrestlemania.
I wish AJ was 5/10 years younger as he would be the next face of the company.
Happy for Wyatt. Guy deserves it.
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Absolutely styles vs cena should main event Wrestlemania think vince has missed a trick here.
To be fair still think he can go for a good few years guy looks in great condition still.he is the best wrestler In the world right now.
Cena v AJ has been amazing, although I imagine it will be put on the back burner now for a period. I've never liked Cena's character but you can't deny he can put on great matches with the right people. I heard a rumour of him being in a mixed tag match with Nikki Bella at 'mania and AJ wrestling Shane.
The prospect of Reigns beating Lesnar for the Universal title is awful, he really needs to turn heel if he is to become the face Vince wants him to be, similar to what The Rock did in the 90s. It also makes me worry what exactly they plan to do with Balor and Owens.
Looks like the hardys are returning. Kurt angle has said he will wrestle again and balor nearly back from injury the roster is starting to get stacked.shelton Benjamin should return when he is fit aswell.
Don't think mick foley is going to be there much longer I think he has to get surgery of dome sort,so wonder who will replace him.
Also braun strowman should beat roman reigns on Sunday but I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
All of those in bold will end up on Smackdown.
That would be the best option. I do reckon angle will go to Raw that's were all the part timers go,Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I'm still buzzing Angle will be wrestling in WWE again. http://i.imgur.com/zUFISpo.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Wonder if Goldberg will stick around after WM.
Think if they give him enough money he will.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I don't mind him sticking around even if only for 2/3 matches a year.
Not sure if I'm alone but anything involving Randy Orton ends up borderline unwatchable nowadays. Hated the segment on SD.
That segment was pretty decent. Can see AJ getting screwed out of the title match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Cena basically admitted last night he wanted Taker at wrestlemania.
Fast Lane tonight.
Big odds on Strowman to beat Roman.
1/8 he should beat reigns that's the right decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
Can see Taker involved tonight and Jericho to cost Owens the title tonight.
Well that was crap. We gonna have a 15 second main event at Wrestlemania :faf:
I know it's nuts.that's the only thing can building towards is for Lesnar to squash him 😐Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Knew Goldberg was winning but the fact it was that short again is ridiculous. He must not be cleared to wrestle longer matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
That to me felt like a big **** you to the younger talent.
Problem is, if owens hangs with oldberg, then it ruins the credibility of Lesnar as he got taken out in 5 seconds served well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Feel bad for owens though. Has helped carry raw since balor got injured and has lost a good slot at wrestlemania for two part timers.
As for reigns beating strowman.... why???
Goldberg must be cleared to wrestle or he wouldn't have taken an F5 tonight. They booked themselves into a corner with the short match against Lesnar, the only saving grace is that Owens was distracted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Vince clearly thinks Reigns is already on the superstar level alongside the likes of Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Cena, HHH, etc. Only explanation for his booking and the wrestle mania match he's getting. I'd expect him to win at WM too and wouldn't rule out him beating Lesnar for the title down the road. That's the way he's being booked at the expense of better, more popular wrestlers.
I am looking forward to Lesnar v Goldberg and Owens v Jericho even if I don't like the buildup or like where its heading after. I like the look of Rollins v HHH too but I expect Reigns v 'Taker to be disappointing and I don't see where Balor fits in at all, maybe the battle royal?
So we're getting AJ v Shane.
Think after WM I can see myself taking a break from it unless Angle returns which is likely.
They have so many great talents and they to write some good/great storylines/matches but then they come out with some crap aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Going into Wrestlemania I think they should put strowman and balor together neither seems to be doing anything.or balor vs Samoa Joe?
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Originally Posted by hibs#1
They could have had Taker-Cena, AJ-Orton for the smackdown title, Balor-Roman for the raw title, Strowman v Taker etc.
Apparently 13 matches for WM. Possibly Balor v Joe added too. Roman is gonna get booed to **** when he beats Taker. :greengrin
Bill Goldberg vs. Brock Lesnar for the Universal title.
Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton for the WWE title
Undertaker vs. Roman Reigns
Seth Rollins vs. HHH
Chris Jericho vs. Kevin Owens for the U.S. title
John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. The Miz & Maryse
A.J. Styles vs. Shane McMahon
Dean Ambrose vs. Baron Corbin for the IC title
Bayley vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks for the women’s title on Raw
Alexa Bliss vs. Natalya vs. Becky Lynch vs. Mickie James vs. Carmella vs. ? for the Smackdown women’s title.
Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson v Sheamus & Cesaro or Enzo Amore & Big Cass
Neville vs. Austin Aries for the cruiserweight title
Andre the Giant Battle Royal.
Finn Balor v Samoa Joe
The thing about AJ v Shane: it could be a really entertaining match although its not likely to be high technical quality as we're used to from AJ. But the whole attraction of Shane as a wrestler is his daredevil stunts, what is he going to be able to do in a match without any stipulations against a technical wrestler?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Anyone know if The Rock is planning on setting fire to some stuff this year?
Finn balor returned last night so is obviously cleared.
Good news.
Reigns to beat taker then Lesnar to beat Goldberg then reigns beats Lesnar and still nobody will care.
I don't even dislike reigns and I do think him beating undertaker is the right choice but they can't keep giving reigns all the big wins.could have at least let strowman beat him at fast lane which was the sensible idea.
The aj styles vs Shane match whilst no ideal it will still be a prominent match and could be fun I do like Shane but this wasn't my first choice for aj.Aslong as aj wins I'll tolerate it and of course they keep pushing him afterwords I'd say him and jericho are the most over on the roster currently.
Not against the miz cena tag match,just a singles match would have done.if cena is leaving again miz has to win the guy is killing it this past year.I don't mind seeing nikki and maryse rolling about togheter 😜
Think they are waiting to make sure rollins makes it 1st to see what they do with balor think it'll be either balor vs Joe or hhh.
Paige. Wow
Read about that. Her career is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenSQH
I think she may have been excused if it was only private Videos and Pictures, even though they may be as hardcore as possible because its not her fault if someone hacks them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
However I cant see WWE being too happy to see the NXT title belt being used like that. Thats the part that I think settles her fate.
Im sure I heard Xavier has a wife that hes been with for years too so Im sure he could be in trouble for his part in the tag team video.
Wonder if they will take any action against Xavier seeing he's still on tv and no doubt the crowd will be shouting stuff at him.
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Originally Posted by nellio
Raw will be interesting tonight if there's any chants directed at Xavier.
Asuka will be handing the title back to them pronto.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarrenSQH
I do feel sorry paige though can't be nice having stuff like that plastered over the Internet and I'm sure they aren't doing anything that other people will be doing.
I'd imagine she will be done now.
He was on it in a backstage segment for a few minutes. Big E says "You got something to tell us" to which Xavier says "Yes... I cant wait for these great matches at wrestle mania" or something to that effect so big E clearly having a laugh with him there.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Got caught up with the last couple of rows and smackdownse
I'd say they are building most of the fueds pretty well ko/y2j wyatt/orton hhh/rollins ambrise/corbin not overly fussed with goldberg/Lesnar but should be fun enough and even though I wasnt interested at 1st styles vs mcmahon is building up surprisingly well.
But I just can't get into taker vs reigns taker just looks and moves terribly and reigns needs a total over haul just like his cousins on smackdown.
They should have had reigns vs strowman or strowman vs big show at Wrestlemania.
Also find it weird they don't have anything for strowman,balor Joe or zayn right now.also enjoy cena vs miz should have been a singles match and Aries vs neville should be great aswell.
Angle to be GM and Nakamura to be called up on the Raw after Wrestlemania. :hyper
Well that's the raw build for mania finished and no plans for joe or balor.
Wrestlemania tomorrow night :hyper
AJ v Shane
KO v Y2J
HHH v Rollins
Roman v Taker
Apparently Roman v Taker is going on last.
In orlando Steven, full of WWE fans going to this. They take it way too serious a guy on the bus told me he paid 2000 for 4 tickets WTFQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Roughly 400 pound per ticket. Not that bad for 8 or so hours entertainment at the very highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
Equivalent of the champions league final mind.
Drew Galloway has joined nxt.
I'm not a hardcore fan but I sometimes watch it with the kids so I may be talking pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
That Roman Reigns guy is absolutely rubbish. It seems like they are trying to make him a star but he just has no charisma and creates no interest.
Only way i would go to a wrestlemania is if it's held in Wembley.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
That's scandalous prices. :confused:
They're trying to make them the next Cena, Rock etc of the company. That will be confirmed tonight if he goves over Taker. Outside WWE the guy has charisma etc but WWE won't let him be himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
To be fair, it's the right result if he goes over taker. Taker is the companies past, reigns is (like it or not) the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Think Rollins and balor will be the biggest stars soon enough.
I agree it's the right result. Taker is finished but the reaction tonight if he goes over Taker will be worse than the royal rumble win in 2015.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
You have guys like Roman, Seth, Balor, Corbin, Wyatt, Strowman, Owens, Zayn, Nakamura, Styles etc to carry the next few years with veterans like Y2J, HHH, Rock, Cena, Orton etc helping them along.
Should have been wyatt going over taker tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I'm guessing he's done after tonight apparently they are going on last plus they have Jim Ross doing commentary for it.
Delete delete delete, that was class
Great ppv overall. First 3 hours were the best i've seen for a long time in Wrestlemania.
Pre-Show:
Neville-Aries 8/10 - Great match to start the pre-show with.
Battle Royal 3/10 - Mojo winning makes no sense to me, would have been better if Zayn or Braun won it
Ambrose v Corbin 5/10 - First of all why was this on the pre-show?, Felt sorry for Ambrose going from WWE Champion to pre-show wrestlemania in 8 months.
Main Show:
AJ v Shane 8/10 - Great match as expected, that shooting star from Shane was brilliant but right man won here.
Owens v Y2J 7/10 - Another good match where Owens got his Wrestlemania moment.
Raw's Women Championship 6/10 - Bayley got her moment but not a high standard match as i expected.
Raw's Tag Team Championship 10/10 - The Hardy's pop when they came out was :top marks , also best match of the night for me. Jeff's still got it :hyper
Cena and Nikki v Miz and Maryse 5/10 - Pretty terrible match but congrats to Cena and Nikki on their engagement though. :aok:
Seth v HHH 7/10 - Another enjoyable match of the evening. HHH put over Seth and Stephanie took a bump through the table.
Orton v Wyatt 3/10 - This match felt rushed and worst match of the night for me.
Lesnar v Goldberg 9/10 - 2nd best match of the night for me even if it was only 4:45mins.
Smackdown's women's match 3/10 - Noami won the title in her hometown that's all that happened
Roman v Taker 5/10 - match was pretty terrible but Taker is pretty much done now going by the ending :(.
Overall 8/10 for the ppv. Best WM for a few years i think. Raw will be interesting tonight.
Pretty much my thoughts too, although I've not seen the cruiserweight match yet. I feel sorry for the smackdown women, their match was so pushed for time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
It's a poor match for taker to retire on, although they did the actual retirement part really well. He obviously couldn't have as good a match as in the past because of his physical issues but reigns is not the right person. Taker retiring is more a moment for the older fans than the younger fans, and reigns is definitely appealing to the wrong demographic for that.
Just watched it. Didn't think it was great but certainly didn't think it was rubbish either. No real stand out match for me but a few 7/10's. Even the short matches were decent considering they never had much time.
The Cena stuff was just the utter pits though
Only watched parts so far.
Tag team match was great hardy boyz are still awesome and everybody else played there part well.hope they keep sheamus and cesaro together turned into a great team.
Hhh v rollins was great rollins is great in the ring.I've always hhh aswell no matter what anyone says about him he always gets in great shape puts his body on the line.
Styles vs Shane O'mac was good aswell styles is one of if not the best in the world and Shane is always entertaining.styles winning was right same as rollins.
Brock vs Goldberg was booked perfectly that's what you want to see from them again Lesnar winning was right.I'll probably be in the minority but hope Goldberg still has another couple matches.
Taker vs reigns not great not terrible but you can taker is really struggling.(not reigns fault)he probably should have finished after the hhh he'll in a cell match.but the the retirement bit was great and the result was correct taker deserves his retirement he owes nobody anything and has had some great moments over the years.
Now on to roman reigns.I can see why they want him as the main guy but they have pushed him all wrong he should got a really slow push instead they rushed it also I think he is still able save it if they charge some stuff.like his gear his music and his attitude he should be booked as uncaring bad ass.I would have had him absolutely demolish with the steel chair taker at the end.the raw crowd tonight will give him a torrid time could be some of the loudest boos ever.
Will watch the rest later.also wtf mojo rawley? You have big show,strowman,zayn,Samoa Joe,balor and others not doing much but they pick mojo ****** rawley?
Hopefully Balor, Nakamura, Angle all debut/return tonight. :hyper
I'm hoping so, but the latest rumour is that Nakamura is headed to smackdown with cena taking more time off. Dillinger and almas are also expected to debut this week after drew Galloway went back to nxt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I really hope they turn reigns heel but I can't see it.
Balor back.
The revival debut.
New gm on raw. Don't believe me? It's true. It's damn true.
Best raw for a long time. :hyperQuote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Smackdown will be the same tonight.
Can see AJ going to Raw and someline like Seth moving.
Reigns got a nice warm welcome 😂
Dillinger and nakamura on smackdown.
Aye that was pretty good fun. As was the cheering for Stephanie getting put through the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1
Angle got some reaction too.
Nakamura's entrance was awesome.
Did AJ turn face last night?
If so can we get AJ v Nakamura for WWE Championship at next year's WM please :hyper
Not sure what there doing with aj he gets cheered probably more than anyone on the roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
But aj vs nakamura would be great but apparently the main event for next year is already reigns vs Lesnar 😢
I liked it when vince came out and the crowd loudly chanted roman sucks he hated it his face was a picture he'll still push him too the moon anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Think I may have to watch Raw and Smackdown again. Both were that good.
WWE Live in Glasgow next month. Tempted to head through for this again but want to see who's on Smackdown first after the draft on monday.
Thought Mania was average (30 and 31 were better IMO).
Reigns is just sooo boring, including in the right. Compared to Goldberg, even now, Reigns' spear is truly awful. As us that superman punch!
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Originally Posted by Steve-O
Aslong I've said before they really don't help him with his booking or moves as you say nor his attire and entrance music.
Should just book him as a dick and let him change up his moves moveset a bit.superman punch is lame.
Drew Galloway/mcintrye Is in nxt now.
Strowman flipping the ambulance 😅
And getting cheered for attempted murder 😅
Strowman is just brilliant.
But good to see AJ is staying on Smackdown :hyper
The bit where he launched the gurney off a ledge was awesome. I was properly marking out.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs#1