Just got results, wife is positive, I’m negative. I work for the NHS so I’ve still to go to work, getting public transport. But I’ve to isolate when not at work? Work that one out.
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Just got results, wife is positive, I’m negative. I work for the NHS so I’ve still to go to work, getting public transport. But I’ve to isolate when not at work? Work that one out.
You must be on the wind up🤣🤣🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by Radium
He made a very fair point, why have we got thousands indoors in very busy shopping centers using public transport etc but 500 fans at an outdoor football match. You don’t need to have a scientific background to know that is total bull****.
I'm sure it makes perfect sense in somebody's headQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
I get going to work with negative LFT’s. But I’m safe to take public transport to work and back but can’t go to the shops? It’s ****ing laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
You're safe to go about your business with a negative test or maybe not so just work.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm_cabbaged
I'm guessing because shutting down that sector potentially decimates hundreds of thousands of jobsQuote:
Originally Posted by Col2
And with no forthcoming furlough....
I'm sure the science for stopping the spread of a highly transmissible disease would be simply close everything and keep everyone in there homes
Its the government's job to try and strike a balance between the 2 extremes
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Correct, work then home for 10 days since yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie
Because the needs of the wider public are served by shops and entertainment venues are simply not as important. Harsh truth. It’s a choice which was not opposed by any of the leaders in parliament who are likely fully briefed on what is actually happening in our critical services.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
His complaint is why them and no me. The answer, pandemic, lots of folk not at work and some of the other things being more important.
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Not sure of the veracity of the various slightly sensationalist reports of this but I'm left not sure what to think of it.
Cards on the table I'm treble jabbed having pretty much sought the vaccinations out at the earliest convenience but there is something about this that leaves me feeling slightly uncomfortable. I'm aware that nobody would be being forced here but nevertheless...
'Door-to-door teams armed with Covid jabs will be sent to the homes of unvaccinated Britons in plans being considered by Ministers'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-Britons.html
I'm sure that would make my mind up. Do they put steel shutters up if you refuse?Quote:
Originally Posted by stu in nottingham
Pretty much the method (as shown on British Pathé newsreels in ye olden days) used in third world countries: take jabs to people's houses/mud huts, persuade them to get vaccinated. Don't see anything wrong with this at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by stu in nottingham
... and cart them off to "facilities" if they don't succumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Don't see too much wrong with that either, providing it's re-education you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Lesson 1. A quandary: science or Des Swayne?
There was.no balance though. They closed down an outside activity already under control of vaccine passport and previously reduced attendance measures (eg 25%, masks, one way system, no food etc)……… but let an indoor activity remain untouched? They could have found a “proportionate” answer but instead said **** you to that sector (who are businesses as well remember) and who provide a huge release for people struggling eg mental health and isolation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
They then admitted there was no science behind the 500 number (Leitch). They did it on a whim, didn’t even acknowledge the impact and didn’t provide a single price of data to back it up at the time or afterwards. The deputy FM then made a comment about regretting the cup final going ahead as it was a potential super spreader. Again no data and frankly just amateur comments.
Let’s see how we feel when we are begging this lot to let’s us have a few thousand fans at a game early spring.
You have to remember the Scottish government don’t have a blank cheque to bail out all sectors affected by an imposed reduction in trading. Sports and football in particular will be a best use of limited funds with best effect for reduced transmission. There won’t be a science reason for 500 but there will be a financial one. Most clubs in Scotland will probably be able to function normally at that number. I’m not sure we should be taking it personally. Rugby is in the same boat. Night clubs too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
We had a twice daily update from NS and finance minister about the inability to borrow and the new money/old money financials. We all had to be dragged on that roller coaster when it should just be sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
I have no issues with decisions when they are made. I expect especially almost two years into this that the Scot Govt can provide some level of rationale and consistency. We have gone from 100 to zero over night re crowds. It could and will likely take months to get back to the same levels as before. I can’t wait to see the data, science and insight on that path.
The virus shows no level of consistency. This mutation different from the last and that one different from the one previous to that. Decisions are made as and when they are needed. In truth probably too late in most cases. It’s not just about slowing down transmission it’s also about keeping essential services going and for that matter the economy. All as best as can be but with one hand on the financial rudder tied behind their back. It literally can’t be just sorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Looks like England are going ahead with an unrestricted new year according to reports. It will be interesting on how both the Scottish and Welsh governments deal with the backlash if this happens.
Which reports are these Steve?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
If that should be the case I think it's much more about Johnson trying to keep his job than anything else.
It is interesting that the default position will be 'England must be right'Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I believe we have restrictions in 3 out of the 4 UK nations
Its weird that the 3 will automatically receive the backlash
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I know what you mean but England and especially London currently has highest infection rate. They would argue 3 nations went early and before studies on milder impacts came out. We were told it was doubling every 2 ish days. It doesn’t look anything like that unless we think the official figures are underestimated. Time will tell but even NS will struggle to argue a case for a proportionate set of restrictions in Scotland (500 fans) versus England (full attendances).Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Most folk I know are just going to get on with New Year, most goingout to house parties etc, the mixed messages of the UK and Scottish goverments kind of just confirms to people that nobody is in line with each other with one lot saying the data says this and the other something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
England will be encouraged by the hospital numbers London is by far the most unvaccinated. Icu very flat their and hospital numbers aren't rising in line with if it was a delta wave.
Looks to have peaked around a week ago there. Also reading it looks to have peaked in Denmark but sweeden a week away. Think we might be close to peak, that means numbers rising for another week on the dashboard.
Think your always better playing it safe than sorry, but waiting for the peak to happen before restrictions is mental
The prime minister is due to be briefed on the latest Covid data as he weighs whether to impose additional measures in England before the new year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59798814
There's are no mixed messages. If you live in Scotland you follow the rules there.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunasBoots
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Maybe they could ban tobacco, call time on the sale of alcohol? Perhaps limit car use to speeds of no more than 20mph everywhere, make compulsory healthy eating a thing and have all fatties undergo mandatory dietary re-education whilst they're at it ?
Disagree about the 20mph limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Spot on IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
https://news.upday.com/uk/pm-briefed...edium=referral
The Prime Minister is not expected to announce further restrictions to control the Omicron variant in England after being briefed on the impact Christmas had on Covid infections and hospital pressures.
Looks like no further restrictions to be implemented in England according to the Press Association.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray