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None of that addresses what I suggested in my post - I think the full conspiracy is close to impossible, do you think that about what I've actually suggested?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Indeed - I'm not trying to prove what happened, I'm suggesting a scenario that seems possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
You can know what it means a categories them into theory with zero basis other than what if or theories with evidence. I like theories with evidence as they can be shown to be wrong like the covid vaccine had a chip in it, it didn't this is why. No evidence theories like what if covid was created by the WEF to kill us, you've no evidence other than what if so why even say it, it's can't be disproven as there is just a feelingQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
He says in the replies it took 12 seconds for the sniper to hear the first shot target and kill the attacker. There is videos of the sniper flinching when he hears the shot aiming and killing him. He probably saved other lives. There is zero other evidence to say anything elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Your theory a trained agent knowing he would be getting filmed from multiple angles, choose to risk giving up his career and freedom by seeing him and letting him shoot. If that is true it will come out his superiors and investigators would soon find out and he would know that. It seems far far more unlikely than the boring truth. If any evidence comes out that changes that obviously I'd lean a different way
The evidence I'm seeing is that the security services were fully aware that there was someone on that roof with a rifle yet they did nothing until fatal shots were fired. Why do you think that happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I'm no gun expert but another question I have is why so few shots?
The initial volley was only 3 shots with fairly long pauses between each. This followed a longer pause then the 2nd volley started
Surely you'd be firing as quickly as you possibly could knowing you have seconds to live?
I know the AR15 is 1 shot 1 pull but it seems way more measured than I imagine
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Poor planning. It was happening in real time and not in hindsight. People were shouting things at a Trump rally it would be hard to discern what they were saying. As soon as he shot he was killed 12 seconds later. It must be hard to secure a football pitch and a half away from Trump and Biden at all times. What evidence have you seen I've seen people shouting and pointing 130metres away from where all eyes were. I don't think ordinary police officers or forces let people dieQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
In Japan the ex PM was assassinated from 5 foot away in 2002, Slovakias PM shot from 5 feet away this year, Bolsanaro was stabbed in Brazil at a rally. It's hard to stop lunatics, unless they were all planned too
We're going to have to agree to disagree here - there are as many holes in your theory as there are in mine so it's all a bit pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
But I am NOT suggesting any of this was planned, I'm suggesting that one officer wanted Trump to be shot.
What isn't being said in all the speculation and counter speculation is that a police officer climbed up, the boy pointed his gun and the officer ducked below the roof. All before the first shot. Why did the security snipers not get the information?
Mines isn't a theory I'm just saying what is known a 20 year old shot at Trump and missed he was then killed. Yours and all the other suggestion has no evidence I've seen. There is always going to be things we don't know. The burden of proof is on those making the suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
You're theorising that the delay was down to poor planning and that the trained sniper with a dedicated sniper rifle couldn't take a shot while an untrained kid with an AR15 managed to very narrowly miss an admittedly huge orange target. That seems unlikely to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
And I'm now officially out.
According to AP it was a local police officer who went to check what the people were talking about. He had the gun pointed at him so jumped back down. It says Crooks quickly took the shot just after that, so he was rushed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
There is no way a local police officer in sees a gun, reports to his commanders, who passes to secret services to stop anything in time
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rally-assassination-attempt-db24c5bfbbe7d09fa2437c3c836bb434
I'm not theorising there was any delay. It happened in real time not instant replay looking back. From the video he flinched aimed killed the guy, seems very normal. Your theorising he wanted the president killed with no basisQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
This is why I'm out - we're going round in circles - there was a delay or the kid would never have taken the shot. That's a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
This is a good angle from above. Crooks was at the other side of a sloped roof from the sniper he was only seen when he went to the top and fired. This is happening in real time not in hindsight and it's unexpected https://x.com/2againsttyranny/status...65470995276084The videos show the sniper jump when a shot is fired, go to his hun kill him. Lots of evidence for that account is there any at all for he chose for the president to be assassinatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
I refer you to my previous posts. Please read and try to comprehend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
My mate on FB just posted this.
Trump pays tribute to the retired firefighter who took the bullet meant for him.
Absolute bonkers.
The word allegedly is that it was a shard of glass from the teleprompter hit by the bullet that caused Trumps injury and not the actual bullet but that would spoil the story tale.
There's a pic of Trump kissing a fireman's helmet.
Is that a euphemism?Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
And yet you already seem to have decided what went down and why. What is already backed by fact, why I'm guessing your theory is as good as the next man's at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I've not decided its the given series of events and I believe it. A 20 year old climbed up a building shot at Trump and missed as trump moved his head. He was spotted and killed. He Googled Trump and Bidens movements an opportunity came up he took it. A sad story pretty boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
As the days have gone I've not seen anything credible to change that rather than people saying what if or maybe. If evidence comes out that changes that I'd believe it. The opposite has happened to every theory I've seen though. If anything comes out that changes that and it would come out then I'll definitely post it here.
Haha, the pic was a fireman's jacket and helmet with Trump leaning over giving the helmet a kiss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colr
I posted it because there are many stories floating around and this was just another.
It was reported the explosive devices were found in the shooters car/house.Were they something a 20 year old nerd could acquire himself ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Trump is clearly trying to channel Dirk Lehman
😂😂 geniusQuote:
Originally Posted by Colr
I assume if poor young people in Syria can improvise explosives then young Americans with the Internet can. I've no idea though, I've not seen anything it was planted or he was put up to it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
oh boy https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status...90609505259808 Marjorie Greene is freakin nuts like the rest of them in the cult of Trump
Project 2025 https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1814095647135474126
Project 2025 is the production of the Heritage Foundation , a right wing pressure group not Trumps agenda.https://eu.usatoday.com/videos/news/...74485126007/Is it going to be the Democrats 2016 Steele dossier or 2020 Hunter Biden laptop a Russian plant .Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
His ear looks just fine.
Currently in the States and the amount of red “make America Great again” BB caps on yank heads is concerning
Biden withdraws!