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Palmer makes the game look effortless, he’s a brilliant player.
On what basis? He's a hugely popular player with his team-mates and has been a terrific servant to Everton and England. I've always liked him as a player. Cracking keeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I don’t get the Pickford hate either, he’s got the eccentricity people used to love in goalkeepers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
I don't think VAR even looked at it? Strong tackle but he took the ball cleanly and it was no more than a booking. I'd be disappointed if a Hibs player got sent off in a derby for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Not in today’s game. Even if you win the ball you can’t go through an opponent that high with that level of force.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
They did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cr5dm1gny9ro
Ah, OK. Yet deemed the tackle no worse than a yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
And PGMOL said they got it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
For me, the referee can be excused, as he only saw it once. VAR can't, as they saw it many times.
How disappointing was Spurs there … Ange in trouble .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Looks like curtains for Ange at the end of the season. They might just get rid of him after they're knocked out of the Europa League which will be 2 weeks tonight if they keep playing like that.
No chance a leg breaker follow through and knew what he was doing absolute stick on red as the efs now agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
It’s Monty time
I think Ange was wrong in it was a poor decision to disallowed their goal but don’t understand why it took as long as it did to make a decision on it .
Absolutely clear foul no idea what he was talking about. Agree made no sense it took so long the commentators seemed to be suggesting the ref was saying something about a glancing blow which didn’t agree with.Assuming commentators can hear the discussion. Wonder if var hear the commentary as think that could influence decisions if they do. What is clear Spurs are very poor. Can’t remember the last time i seen Son have a good game for them and imo never a captain. Ange nearing the exit door imoQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Ange surely gone at end of season. He cracks under pressure which we also saw at Celtic briefly. Always quick to blame someone else or VAR. Injuries or not, he hasn’t adapted his squad to play in EPL game which is pretty poor at that level. I keep hearing people say he sticks to his principles but actually he just comes across as stubborn. You need to find different ways to win games.
His post match interviews are amusing and often excruciating to watch. He's the most prickly manager out there when things aren't going well. Must be a nightmare to live with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
He obviously thinks he’s being funny but as you say it’s just a difficult watchQuote:
Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia
Yeah, although I didn't think it merited a booking, it was definitely a foul. The TV showed him looking at a replay whilst the VAR check was going on and him being very angry. I couldn't work out why as it was a clear foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Commentary definitely do hear VAR. That's the reason we don't have to suffer Andy Walker on Sky up here any more. He repeated something he heard VAR say that was a bit questionable and the SFA went mental at Sky for him going public with it. Good that he's off the airwaves but he was only repeating what the VAR team had said - again a clear sign most of these refs don't like any accountability.
Edit:
https://news.stv.tv/sport/sky-sports...out-var-claims
He heard them say that giving an offside decision would give the refereeing team an "easy way out".
The guy's family have been receiving death threats for it:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c4gr3ryxdpko
There really are some morons out there.
FWIW I've seen a lot worse tackles than that. He was fully focused on the ball, not his opponent. Similar to a Porto tackle at Ibrox which he was red-carded for when in fact a yellow would have sufficed.
It’s a shocker of a tackle and a yellow absolutely didn’t suffice imo. Much like the Porteous one at Ibrox which was also a shocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Only because of Gerrard's reaction to it. Hibs actually appealed the red card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Last night the tackle looked worse than it actually was due to the Liverpool player pulling out just as the Everton player committed himself to the challenge. There was no malice.
And it was turned down, because it was a shocker.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
It didn’t ’look worse’ because of anything other than Tarkowskis actions. It was a horrific tackle.
The Porteous one at Ibrox was nowhere near as bad as that IMO. The Porteous one against them at ER was more comparable for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The challenge was shocking and Trakowski knew exactly what he was doing. He endangered a player going in a full pelt and high. Mac Allisters foot is planted and going nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
I’m not sure what images or footage you’ve seen but this image says enough for me.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c0c01ad98d.jpg
If Mac Allister's pulled out the tackle, could be said that means Tarkowski's had to go looking even further for that contact which in turn makes it look even worse. Think he's meant to do him - the screen grabs of his face doesn't do him many favours either.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Plus the ref has about five looks at it to see if it even resembles a foul. Then all of a sudden it's a booking??! Nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
They were both as bad as each other imo although have numerous differentiating factors. Tarkowski made a serious amount of contact for starters, however he also very cleanly won the ball. Porteous barely touches the ball and even when he does it’s in the process of going over the top of it. Porteous also approaches it with much more speed and intensity, two of the factors taken into consideration for serious foul play which are:Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Speed
Intensity
Force
Degree of control
Point and extent of contact
I’d suggest Porteous’ was worse in the speed, intensity and degree of control and he’s lucky in terms of force that he didn’t make much contact or else it would have been worse in terms of force as well.
On the point of the Tarkowski challenge, I can’t believe anyone can be of the opinion a yellow was a suitable punishment, short of just wanting to show how against modern football they are.
Var did look at it for a few seconds , deemed only a yellow by none other than mr Paul tierney ,Jurgens mate absolutely has a grudge against us total walloper
I've seen the actual footage, not an picture taken after he'd won the ball cleanly (which is what the image you've posted shows and is therefore highly misleading). I get that under today's rules you have to try to not to have your studs showing in a tackle, but it's a tough ask in the heat of a big game and often players will get their timing wrong. The reaction to this has been way OTT. As the guy's wife says "death threats aren't passion, they're pathetic."Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Again, a highly selective take. If you were to freeze the images of most professional footballers going into a tackle, or even just kicking or heading the ball you'll not see them smiling sweetly. Same goes for pretty much any competitive team sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broken Gnome
The only two incidents I can recall where a facial expression in a picture matches the intent were Neil Simpson's assault on Ian Durrant and Graeme Souness doing likewise to George McCluskey.
I have watched footage at time and numerous time after and it doesn’t get any better every time I’ve watched it. That challenge is a potential career ending one and regardless of what game etc it is, it’s a red every single day of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Agree about the reaction with the death threats etc are totally out of order and those responsible should be dealt with accordingly.
As for the image it’s not misleading to me, he knows, his facial expression shows, he’s off the ground etc and is endangering an opponent regardless if he touched the ball first. He actually follows through with all his might
He’s seen it himself so I’ve no idea how he thinks it’s the wrong decision. He also went on about if something is clear and obvious why did it take so long , simple answer is it shouldn’t have and should have been decided on in about 30 seconds…Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Spurs were poor and Son seems to be past his best which must be a concern as he was one if not their main player in recent times . Incredible how quiet Solanke was as well which is probably done to them as a team in they just didn’t do enough.
I agree with most of your post but the facial expression bit doesnt show or prove anything, you can make facial expressions mean anything you want them to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
In this instance getting the ball is totally irrelevant. I don’t think it’s even anything that is a recent thing. Going for someone with your studs, that high, with that type of force is something that deserves a red card. That’s what he did, he went to do the boy and tried to disguise it as getting the ball. It wasn’t just that timing was out or anything like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Deaths threats for something like that though. Folk are mental.
Scotland ladies lose 4-0 to Germany. Always going to be a tough game but the performance was largely dreadful.
I don't agree with that at all. That would be a remarkably tricky thing to pull off. He got the ball because that was his intention and is hardly an irrelevance. He was no doubt fired up by the occasion but I don't think he went in with any intent to injure his opponent. The Liverpool lad accepted his apology.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
The intent was absolutely there, he knew exactly what he was doing. Ticked every box for a red card irrespective of him kicking the ball first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
Nonsense Penalty for Everton there.
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I'm watching the Luton v Leeds game so can't comment on the penalty but I must say Moyes is doing exactly what he was brought back to do and just shows what a very good manager he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Personally thought it was defender on wrong side continues pull into the boxQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
English Championship is so close this season between 3 teams . That’s Burnley top for now ,might be wrong but were they not a good few points behind the top two at one point?
We'll just have to disagree on that. Having seen it again this morning I'm not even 100% convinced he should have been booked. His focus is entirely on winning the ball, which he does convincingly, and it's pure momentum which carries him into his opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
My dad after telling me hertz tv is showing a rugby game right now . Somethings never change 😆
Leeds going to blow automatic permotion if they don't get a grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Their forms not been great recently alright , think that’s 3 draws in their last 3 games .Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Both teams that could apply pressure on hearts for that 6th spot are losing
Hence they are the luckiest bassas in the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
Sheep wining. Hoping RC can do us a favour here and even get a draw.
Dundee and killie both winning and keeping the jambos top 6 hopes alive
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hearts will secure top six tomorrow with a win
which i'm sure they will get
What would a draw do for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
- Airdrieonians 2-1 Partick Thistle
- Dunfermline Athletic 0-1 Hamilton Academical
- Falkirk 5-0 Greenock Morton
- Livingston 3-0 Queen's Park
- Raith Rovers 1-0 Ayr United
- Annan Athletic 0-2 Queen of the South
- Cove Rangers 0-3 Inverness CT
- Kelty Hearts 0-6 Dumbarton
- Montrose 0-1 Arbroath
- Stenhousemuir 1-4 Alloa Athletic
- Edinburgh City 2-1 Clyde
- Elgin City 0-2 Stirling Albion
- Forfar Athletic 1-0 East Fife
- Peterhead 5-0 Bonnyrigg Rose
- Spartans 2-1 Stranraer
West Ham 2 Bournemouth 2
Bournemouth really could do with a few Hibs players
with huge transfer fees
Brilliant result !!! Well done everyone.
They're 1 point ahead of St mirren and motherwell so it would come down to bext week . If they lose and either of those 2 win they're bottom 6Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson
Why so sure? Critchley hasn't been impressive in the fames where there's a bit of pressure on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Villa up 1-0. Rogers has developed into a top class player...
Vente is in action at 8pm, away to the team who are bottom of the league and have a -32 goal difference.
Hopefully he can increase his tally.
Aberdeen hitting some good form just in time to face the Diets at Hampden
Just saw the Motherwell red card. The way they were talking about it on the radio it was a huge injustice. It was absolutely spot on. He made the clearance and could easily have avoided the contact but didn’t and followed through. I don’t see it as controversial in the slightest.
Funny I didn’t think it was a red cardQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
The tackle on Halliday last week at Aberdeen was far worse, and the dons player stayed on
Inconsistency
Both were reds for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Fair enough, Motherwell been done thenQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Zwole 2-0 up after 35 mins, Vente with 1 goal so far. 1 more needed to go joint 2nd top scorer in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Loadsahmooooooney 💶💷💶💷💶Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
:agree: They are on a run of 8/9 games with the only defeat being at Celtic Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
The Motherwell red card looked incredibly harsh. A coming together during the follow through from a clearance.
The second "red" is quite humorous- away down the tunnel before VAR overrules it!Quote:
Originally Posted by danhibees1875
You called it at the time and youre quite right watching it on MOTD now. Awful decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
One of the teams on my coupon today was Wrexham and I watched the game , Burton had a man sent off 10 minutes in which was a bad start for them considering they are fighting against relegation..
While I was wanting Wrexham to win I did feel a bit sorry for Burton who showed great character and spirit until they lost a penalty in the 71st minute which ex-Hibs striker Fletcher scored . I missed the penalty incident only to see it later , anyone think it’s a penalty ? (1:40 in) …
https://www.skysports.com/football/v...one-highlights
Go and tell me how you kick a ball without following though, it's physically impossible to do it and the law of motion explains this.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
So have we think it would have meant Aberdeen playing with ten from first halfQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
He had time to try and stop the follow through and didn’t. He could have and did nothing to mitigate following through. It’s a deliberate action thus endangering the opponent. There was time to try and avoid it and he didn’t even try.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Lennon complaining about a ref, who knew :greengrin
St Johnstone 1 v 0 Celtic
Balodis
My point is you cannot stop a follow through when kicking a ball, it goes against the law of motion.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
STJ really giving them a game
Don't think Brenda bothered to watch our game against St J last week. Unbelievable that Celtic are not pressing them at the back
His main flaw is his arrogance. You saw it when we played them at ER, started that game with the wrong team and persisted with it too long thinking it was just enough to show up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheffhibee
Exactly right, that arrogance has spread to their players as well, too many thinking they just have to turn up and pick up the pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Get it sorted, we need them to win the cup
Probably as poor a performance from Celtic as I’ve seen , Kuhn and Jota haven’t done much on the wings and Engels looks like a player they paid well OTT for .
Chris Sutton is like a Celtic fan with a mic just willing the baw into the Saintees net
F#cking joke !
whats the deal with the guy running round speaking to the ball boys? im guessing to slow the play down when the balls out so doe that mean we don't have to have them sitting on cones like we do?
I’m getting increasingly worried that Celtic aren’t going to win the cup.
The Jota that has come back is the twin brother of the one who left, definitely not the same guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
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Is that not what he is?:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Same, they seem to have chucked it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
St Johnstone probably won’t hold out till the end but they’re right in Celtic’s face and it’s effective.
I get that but he was also near enough at a standstill with little forward motion other than the kick. He didn’t even try not to get his man. I can see why under the laws of the game it’s a red. It won’t however surprise me to see it appealed and won.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
my goodness just tuned in, sellick do have their bad days/performances huh
would be nice if it happened more often when playing us
boy are they missing Kyogo
Who for? 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
We just have to do the job and finish 3rd, but unfortunately they don't appear to have the same ruthlessnes they had earlier in the season. Hopefully, Hampden brings out the best of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
It's been a long season. They're under no real danger from Rangers, thanks to the likes of us. They have been a bit sloppy of late, when the pressure is off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
As we see them do constantly, and did in our cup tie, they will be on it when silverware is at stake.
Don't worry about that.
Celtic have been shockingly bad in this game so far.
Treble on the line at Hampden they’ll be a different beast. Our win yesterday has them thinking the league is easily in the bag. It is but still needs to be won. It is but it’s a mindset rather than application or ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
As I understand it they put the balls on the cones rather than giving the balls to the players. Players are supposed to retrieve them from the cones. There should already be balls on the cones but I do see some empty ones. Sone jiggery pokery going on in Perth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
Top save from the keeper