Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Just Alf

Yup... omicron has reconnected the link between cases and hospitals that vaccinations had previously broken... not because of folks being admitted this time but because of staff self isolating reducing managable bed capacity.

I wonder if the talk of it burning out quicker will end up in the self isolation period being reduced back to 7 days to help reduce the impact.

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Too many people needing to go into hospital should be the only reason for hospitals being unable to cope.

If the only reason for hospitals being unable to cope is because of self isolation rules and they would be able to function much better if there were more staff at work instead of being at home self isolating then we need to rethink the rules around self isolation for a virus that's now causing far fewer people to be admitted to hospital - if indeed that is the case.

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Originally Posted by Just Alf

Yup... omicron has reconnected the link between cases and hospitals that vaccinations had previously broken... not because of folks being admitted this time but because of staff self isolating reducing managable bed capacity.

I wonder if the talk of it burning out quicker will end up in the self isolation period being reduced back to 7 days to help reduce the impact.


Edit.. PS I know I must sound like a broken record but it the numbers catching it that's the issue with this varient and a lot of folks seem fixated on hospitalisations etc which with omicron are only an issue (volume wise) if there's staff shortages.

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I said the other day consideration should be given to reducing self isolation to 7 days. I'm on day 6 now and positive line on LFT is almost non existent, by tomorrow it will be gone.

You could even include the caveat that people have to test out at day 7 using an LFT.

Rishi Sunak announces that hospitality firms hit by Covid will receive £1 billion in cash grants.

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Originally Posted by LaMotta

Looks like Boxing Day games now being restricted too.....

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How do you know this? Are you ITK :greengrin

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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce

How do you know this? Are you ITK :greengrin

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I think they are.

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Too many people needing to go into hospital should be the only reason for hospitals being unable to cope.

If the only reason for hospitals being unable to cope is because of self isolation rules and they would be able to function much better if there were more staff at work instead of being at home self isolating then we need to rethink the rules around self isolation for a virus that's now causing far fewer people to be admitted to hospital - if indeed that is the case.

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I don't disagree, it's not totally either/or though... capacity is being taken by covid patients and cases are driving staff shortages, both impact available capacity hence the 'pressure' on the NHS.

Reducing isolation time surely has to be a consideration to help reduce the staffing impact. The vaccination programme motoring along is a biggie that will get us out the other end though.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I said the other day consideration should be given to reducing self isolation to 7 days. I'm on day 6 now and positive line on LFT is almost non existent, by tomorrow it will be gone.

You could even include the caveat that people have to test out at day 7 using an LFT.

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100% :agree

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Yep.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Yep. Leitch spoke out about outdoor stadia being safe, so if she goes ahead with this, she’s now ignoring her own advisers.

Just got a half season ticket so ill be beyond angry if she targets sports with zero evidence base. Folk will just go to pubs, which has a greater risk. People who aren’t vaccinated/boosted will rightly be asking what the point is.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Yes me. We were told the vaccines where the way out of this. We got them and the passports to prove it.

You can understand why people have had enough and are finished with all this ****. Depending on what is said at this briefing today it's looking a certainty that the football will get shut down despite little or no evidence that cases have came from this sport.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Yes for two reasons, I’ve had three jabs plus I’ve already paid out for 3 ST’s for a whole season without seeing a game.

If I miss out on a substantial amount of games again I can see myself drifting away from the game after buying ST’s for around 30 years.

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Originally Posted by LaMotta

Looks like Boxing Day games now being restricted too.....

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Still maximum 1000 or has that been lowered? For all the difference it makes at ER, of course.

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Yep. Leitch spoke out about outdoor stadia being safe, so if she goes ahead with this, she’s now ignoring her own advisers.

Just got a half season ticket so ill be beyond angry if she targets sports with zero evidence base. Folk will just go to pubs, which has a greater risk. People who aren’t vaccinated/boosted will rightly be asking what the point is.

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Leitch said he was worried about fans mixing pre and post match in pubs and on transport, so his advice is hardly being ignored. Unless you are suggesting the grounds are open but all the pubs are shut before and after and folk are forced into private transport?

It must be like a bit of a dream for politicians of all colours in the Scottish Parliament. A chance to have a go at football fans and alcohol (primarily the 'wrong type' of alcohol) at the same time. If they could find a way to limit access to take aways they would have a full house on attacking their obsessions.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Anyone else gonna be absolutely seething soon if they stop crowds going to football again?

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Yeah will be absolutely furious

Got all 3 jabs, followed all rules and 2 years in can’t go and see my team play in an outdoor stadium

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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge

I think they are.

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Definitely

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...d-500-25754343

Daily Scottish update;

* 5,242 new cases since yesterday - 14.9% positivity rate
Decrease of 1 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday - 515
Decrease of 1 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday - 37
4,373,917 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 1,788 people since yesterday
3,997,192 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 3,550 people since yesterday
2,630,615 people have now received a booster vaccination - 69,135 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

* Public Health Scotland note there continues to be an impact on turnaround times between specimens being taken and results reported, due to larger volumes of tests being processed by labs.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...d-500-25754343

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Yawn.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...d-500-25754343

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So thatl be

Dundee utd away

Celtic away

Hearts at ER

Winter break

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Originally Posted by HendoDelivered

Yawn.

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Tired.

Presiding Officer asks for MSPs to be recalled on 29th December and 5th January.

Booster at lunchtime today. So far so good with even the arm not really giving me jip.. but obviously too early to know if I’ll be getting the s*** feeling.

Busy with appointments where I was today. Was there about half an hour which is the first time I’ve not just been in and out. Good, slick and comfortable process as always though.

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Originally Posted by WeeRussell

Booster at lunchtime today. So far so good with even the arm not really giving me jip.. but obviously too early to know if I’ll be getting the s*** feeling.

Busy with appointments where I was today. Was there about half an hour which is the first time I’ve not just been in and out. Good, slick and comfortable process as always though.

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My arm took 24 hours to stop being tender as

Felt fairly unwell for the same period too

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...d-500-25754343

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How is the Daily Record finding out before MSPs at Parliament?

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Originally Posted by James310

How is the Daily Record finding out before MSPs at Parliament?

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Everybody knows James. It's been all over Twitter for hours.

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Originally Posted by James310

How is the Daily Record finding out before MSPs at Parliament?

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I'm sure MSPs will have advance sight of her statement.

Pretty sure that's usually how things are done.

Football's an easy target for this kind of thing. Because of its high profile it allows the government to look like its taking major action, without actually inconveniencing the majority of the population. While there's thousands of folk in the country who go to games week in, week out we're still very much in a minority. You could see that in the summer when the Disgusted from Morningside types were writing letters to the papers saying grounds shouldn't reopen, even though ultimately doing so had very little impact on case numbers. Keeps those types happy.

Here we go. 🙄