Tories are still lying *******s

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10-11-2021, 08:25 AM
matty_f

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Originally Posted by bigwheel

I think that’s your version of the situation. To me, Equality, diversity and inclusion remains a major topic . In everyday life and in the workplace people are much more aware of prejudice and inequalities. Delighted that’s the case…

Black Live matter fight goes on, and yes people are repurposing the term woke as a negative thing, but for me it remains a positive term. It was derived to note those who were becoming alert to the prejudices faced by many minorities. If you want to use it that way, then so be it…but it is a right if centre view of the term, which does nothing to recognise where is grew from.

We talk about current topics across all domains a lot on this forum. It’s driven by the news cycle. Just because we do so, doesn’t mean we care less about topics of last year, whether it’s about football, politics or prejudice….that’s just the nature of social forums…..

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10-11-2021, 08:27 AM
matty_f

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

You've just listed some reasons you think people voted Conservative. You could be right.

Maybe they didn't though. Maybe they voted for genuine, decent reasons?

Is voting for the party you trust most with the economy a trite reason, or a decent, genuine one?

It seems like this thread is painting all Conservatives with the same brush. There will be voters of many races, religions or levels of wealth that vote for all parties, Tories included.

You’d have to be ****ing mental to trust these Tories with anything, let alone the economy.
10-11-2021, 08:28 AM
Radium

https://twitter.com/louishenwood/sta...405522964?s=21

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10-11-2021, 08:43 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by matty_f

You’d have to be ****ing mental to trust these Tories with anything, let alone the economy.

To be fair they are doing a pretty decent job of transferring the wealth generated by the economic activity of the many into the hands of their chums and they all clearly trust each other.

Record number of billionaires and millionaires created during Covid.

I'm saying this as a response to you rather than a riposte to Whilethechief, a poster I encounter across a range of subjects and whose views I respect.

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10-11-2021, 10:26 AM
cabbageandribs1875

Andrew Bowie to quit his role in protest over sleaze scandal (thelondoneconomic.com)

Andrew Bowie is set to quit his role as the Conservative party’s vice-chairman with the party embroiled in a sleaze scandal.
The MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine told the Tory party on Tuesday he wanted to step down once a replacement was found

aye right, he was a cheerleader for the prince of Sleaze last week
10-11-2021, 10:44 AM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Andrew Bowie to quit his role in protest over sleaze scandal (thelondoneconomic.com)

Andrew Bowie is set to quit his role as the Conservative party’s vice-chairman with the party embroiled in a sleaze scandal.
The MP for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine told the Tory party on Tuesday he wanted to step down once a replacement was found

aye right, he was a cheerleader for the prince of Sleaze last week

Lining himself up to take out Ross?

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10-11-2021, 11:53 AM
WhileTheChief..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

To be fair they are doing a pretty decent job of transferring the wealth generated by the economic activity of the many into the hands of their chums and they all clearly trust each other.

Record number of billionaires and millionaires created during Covid.

I'm saying this as a response to you rather than a riposte to Whilethechief, a poster I encounter across a range of subjects and whose views I respect.

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Appreciate it!

I'm thinking I should back out of this one for a while and give folk some peace again.

Maybe I'll go take a peek in the Brexit thread instead, or the Indy one.....
10-11-2021, 01:59 PM
weecounty hibby

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Appreciate it!

I'm thinking I should back out of this one for a while and give folk some peace again.

Maybe I'll go take a peek in the Brexit thread instead, or the Indy one.....

No need to back off. Can't say I agree with much (any!) of your political stance but you at least put up a defence and that is to be applauded. Maybe we will all wear you down and before you know it you will be voting SNP and campaigning for Indy!!🙂
10-11-2021, 03:03 PM
Ozyhibby

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b1954972.html

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10-11-2021, 04:24 PM
WhileTheChief..

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

No need to back off. Can't say I agree with much (any!) of your political stance but you at least put up a defence and that is to be applauded. Maybe we will all wear you down and before you know it you will be voting SNP and campaigning for Indy!!🙂

I've got an open mind, crack on.

Folks been trying to convince me for 20 + years mind. Yet to hear a compelling enough argument for it.....

Oops, straying into a new territory there, I'll stop, don't want to distract y'all from the main topic here!!
10-11-2021, 04:32 PM
Moulin Yarns

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...ar-chargepoint

Let's spend £200,000 reinventing the wheel, so to speak.
10-11-2021, 04:41 PM
StevieC

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/3...ar-chargepoint

Let's spend £200,000 reinventing the wheel, so to speak.

For me, the car charging breakthrough will happen when they can design a charging system that can wirelessly charge, in the same way that some phones can be charged by simply laying them on a wireless charging pad.
10-11-2021, 04:57 PM
Jack

UK is not a corrupt country, says Boris Johnson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59238464

1. The UK is not a corrupt country, the tory party is corrupt.

2. The fact that the question was raised and has to be answered, at an international conference, should be a concern to us all [in the UK].
10-11-2021, 05:56 PM
Lendo

https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/stat...527920643?s=20

**** is about to get real for some toffs down south.
10-11-2021, 06:38 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I felt quite bad about not intending to vote in the last Scottish election so I went along and simply spoiled my ballot.

I still took part in the democratic process but made my point albeit in a way that is ultimately meaningless and futile. Come the next election if there aren't significant shifts from any of the 2 major parties I would seriously consider voting for then I will do the same again. I might have voted SSP on the list this year but they didn't stand candidates. I'm beyond voting for the least bad option now. They say you get more right wing as you get older but I find myself thinking increasingly radical thoughts. I'm fed up hearing about consensus and watching parties walk a tight rope trying to offer sops to people across the political spectrum.

I quite like the rhetoric and action from a few of the younger and new Labour MSPs, Pam Duncan-Glancy and particularly Mercedes Villalba. The latter has spoken well multiple times in Holyrood and seems very active locally. Hopefully a few of these types can find themselves closer to the real power of the party in the years to come.

Totally agree, I'm definitely going further left as I get older. I have voted SSP in the past and would consider doing so again but like you said they tend not to stand in my area either. I'll always go to the polling station and spoiling a paper is actively taking part in the process for me too. I wouldn't say it is meaningless spoiling a paper though, I would encourage anyone who thinks no-one standing is fit to represent them to spoil their paper rather than not vote. I would love spoilt papers to actually win a ballot, it may actually create some change
10-11-2021, 06:44 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

And even if it meant they didn't get elected at all?

That would be fine too. I get it is a collection of views so the Labour Party will not necessarily be as left as I would like but the current Party isn't a million miles away from the Tories of the 70s. I don't expect my perfect view of socialism to be reflected in the Labour Party but I want it to be recognisable as a Labour Party. How could I have any joy in wanting the Tories dressed in Red winning. I'd rather stick with my beliefs and a party that represents them keep arguing for them. I'll just have to wait for a Party like that to actually stand in my area.
10-11-2021, 06:48 PM
Callum_62

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Originally Posted by Lendo

https://twitter.com/brexit_sham/stat...527920643?s=20

**** is about to get real for some toffs down south.

Hahaha
Fking hell [emoji23][emoji23]

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10-11-2021, 07:17 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Callum_62

Hahaha
Fking hell [emoji23][emoji23]

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Just as soon as Rees Mogg sorts out the Small Children (Sweeping of Chimneys) Act he'll be full steam ahead on the entirely understandable hardship this Peer of the realm highlights.

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10-11-2021, 07:31 PM
Bostonhibby

https://twitter.com/philip_tudor/sta...Ypz-4pDdw&s=08

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11-11-2021, 09:58 AM
Radium

Tories are still lying *******s

https://youtu.be/kcMyoPC5rVA

Interview with Martin Bell looking at today compared to the ‘90s

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11-11-2021, 02:12 PM
cabbageandribs1875

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...14&oe=6191F3A2

great timing that was, eh

the comical Daily Express will probably concentrate on a can of irn-bru though
11-11-2021, 02:25 PM
Ozyhibby

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11-11-2021, 09:47 PM
Stairway 2 7

https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticsF...26666617606145

The MP who told Marcus Rashford to focus on the day job, has a second job
11-11-2021, 10:44 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Paul Dacre: a rigged appointment - Good Law Project

When it comes to the Prime Minister’s allies, there’s a pattern emerging in Downing Street. When Boris Johnson doesn’t like the outcome of an official process, he tries to rip up the rules and start again.
We saw it with the Owen Paterson scandal and we’re seeing it again now with the rigged appointment process for the new Chair of media regulator Ofcom.
Paul Dacre is the former editor of the Daily Mail of 26 years, and Johnson’s preferred candidate for the top job at Ofcom. He’s in a bit of a pickle though, given that an interview panel deemed Mr Dacre “not appointable” just a few months ago.

'kin stinks
12-11-2021, 06:06 AM
JimBHibees

Peterhead impact of Brexit. Why are we not hearing about this every day?.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar
12-11-2021, 07:15 AM
Alex Trager

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12-11-2021, 07:33 AM
Steven79

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Originally Posted by Alex Trager

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And yet England will still vote in them...

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12-11-2021, 07:54 AM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Alex Trager

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Thank christ he put those Remainer Elites in their place though.

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12-11-2021, 08:46 AM
grunt

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Peterhead impact of Brexit. Why are we not hearing about this every day?.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar

Article is from January of this year. Would be interesting to know what situation is now.
12-11-2021, 08:52 AM
Keith_M

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Peterhead impact of Brexit. Why are we not hearing about this every day?.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar

"The federation said the industry faces “mounting financial losses” since the Brexit deal they campaigned for was finally delivered. "

:hmmm:
12-11-2021, 12:42 PM
Radium

https://twitter.com/dominic2306/stat...162063872?s=21

The backstabbing contest continues.

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12-11-2021, 09:49 PM
degenerated

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Douglas Ross in the firing line now :greengrinAttachment 25274
12-11-2021, 10:17 PM
Ozyhibby

Corrupt to the core.

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13-11-2021, 05:45 AM
Crunchie

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Is there anyone else on this thread / forum that votes Conservative, is against Independence and was for Brexit?!!

Am i out here on my own??!!!

You're definitely not on your own, you've put over some great arguments and I've agreed with practically every word you've said. I've been working a lot this past week and not been able to post from work.

I'm not great at writing down what I want to get over but you've done it superbly well and hats off to you for that. Also for sticking in there amongst the snidey questions and remarks aimed at you for daring to have a centre right political viewpoint.

As someone else said you sound like the kind of bloke I could go for a pint with :aok:
13-11-2021, 09:24 AM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Crunchie

You're definitely not on your own, you've put over some great arguments and I've agreed with practically every word you've said. I've been working a lot this past week and not been able to post from work.

:

You've got a chance now to list all the "great arguments" put forward by Wtc.

Apart from the fact that he "hates socialism" which is his right, I must have missed them.

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13-11-2021, 09:41 AM
Ozyhibby

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13-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Kato

Shameless

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-over-finances

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13-11-2021, 03:48 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Kato

Shameless

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...-over-finances

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That’s just unbelievable. I worked in the public sector responsible for large sums of euro and national funding, and the procedures for tendering were absolutely watertight, there was no way of awarding contracts to mates etc. What has changed? And do these 3rd sector and private bodies not have contracts they are bound by or are they just being breached?
13-11-2021, 04:05 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

That’s just unbelievable. I worked in the public sector responsible for large sums of euro and national funding, and the procedures for tendering were absolutely watertight, there was no way of awarding contracts to mates etc. What has changed? And do these 3rd sector and private bodies not have contracts they are bound by or are they just being breached?

There is to be an inquiry so maybe all will be revealed.

Look at the characters involved. Most charities are obviously out there trying to do good but some are suspicious as.. always wondered about "tax breaks" and such.

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13-11-2021, 04:12 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by Kato

There is to be an inquiry so maybe all will be revealed.

Look at the characters involved. Most charities are obviously out there trying to do good but some are suspicious as.. always wondered about "tax breaks" and such.

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Damian Aspinall's father was,allegedly, responsible for the "disappearance" of Lord Lucan.
13-11-2021, 04:30 PM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kato

There is to be an inquiry so maybe all will be revealed.

Look at the characters involved. Most charities are obviously out there trying to do good but some are suspicious as.. always wondered about "tax breaks" and such.

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Wonder if Douglas Ross gets a tax break on his donation of one of his three salaries?

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13-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Smartie

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Damian Aspinall's father was,allegedly, responsible for the "disappearance" of Lord Lucan.

I must admit, this post has sent me down a thoroughly enjoyable rabbit hole for the past hour.
13-11-2021, 05:53 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by Smartie

I must admit, this post has sent me down a thoroughly enjoyable rabbit hole for the past hour.

The ITV show was pretty thorough. Might still be up.

An absolute cad.

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13-11-2021, 05:57 PM
hibsbollah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kato

The ITV show was pretty thorough. Might still be up.

An absolute cad.

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Bounder? Bad egg?
13-11-2021, 06:29 PM
Kato

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Bounder? Bad egg?

Shower. Scoundrel.

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13-11-2021, 09:50 PM
cabbageandribs1875

tomorrows observer

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13-11-2021, 09:55 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Martin Bell #ElectoralReform #FBPA #JohnsonOut on Twitter: "This is absolutely extraordinary. 7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them. Where is Sherlock Holmes?? https://t.co/17pVBpG76y" / Twitter

7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them

astonishing
14-11-2021, 08:43 AM
Lendo

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Martin Bell #ElectoralReform #FBPA #JohnsonOut on Twitter: "This is absolutely extraordinary. 7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them. Where is Sherlock Holmes?? https://t.co/17pVBpG76y" / Twitter

7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them

astonishing

“set up after furlough begin” makes the fraud even more apparent. Interested to see where this goes.
14-11-2021, 08:46 AM
hibsbollah

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

Martin Bell #ElectoralReform #FBPA #JohnsonOut on Twitter: "This is absolutely extraordinary. 7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them. Where is Sherlock Holmes?? https://t.co/17pVBpG76y" / Twitter

7,000 companies registered to only five addresses in London made claims to the furlough scheme between last December and June. Over that period they claimed up to £473 million between them

astonishing

Which five addresses? Is the relevant question here.
14-11-2021, 08:58 AM
Keith_M

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Which five addresses? Is the relevant question here.

10 Downing St

9 Downing St

8 Downing St

....etc...

Just a guess.
14-11-2021, 09:56 AM
Ozyhibby

Tories are still lying *******s

Another independent body under attack.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ction-watchdog

We are not exactly a full democracy anyway but this is making things a lot worse.

It’s also important for indyref 2 as the unionists are desperate to change the question. No surprise Gove is involved.

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14-11-2021, 11:33 AM
Radium

https://twitter.com/avmikhailova/sta...795605515?s=21

… but if I am clever about it, you don’t need to know…

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14-11-2021, 01:03 PM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

tomorrows observer

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https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...ca&oe=6196165D

Andrew Marr on the Arcuri allegations ‘salacious’ and ‘nothing really substantial’. Absolute joke. Have you HEARD what she’s accusing him of? Sex for favours. How is that insubstantial?

Still, Corbyn spied for Russia or pissed on the cenotaph or something didn’t he? Pass the salt…
14-11-2021, 01:49 PM
WhileTheChief..

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Andrew Marr on the Arcuri allegations ‘salacious’ and ‘nothing really substantial’. Absolute joke. Have you HEARD what she’s accusing him of? Sex for favours. How is that insubstantial?

Still, Corbyn spied for Russia or pissed on the cenotaph or something didn’t he? Pass the salt…

On Remembrance Sunday? Should be locked up for life.
14-11-2021, 05:32 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Nigerian anti-corruption tsar tells Boris Johnson: 'There are thieves and there are receivers, London is most notorious safe haven for looted funds in the world today' - Finance Uncovered

Professor Sadiq Isah Radda, who is the executive secretary of the Presidential Advisory Committee Against Corruption in Nigeria, told the British Prime Minister that London was actually “the most notorious safe haven for looted funds in the world today”

He said his country was suffering “monumental damage” from corruption, adding: “There are no thieves without receivers. Without safe havens for looted funds, Nigeria and Africa will not be this corrupt.

:agree:
14-11-2021, 06:23 PM
Kato

A boot in the nads to a levelling up promise

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/bo...re_article-top

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14-11-2021, 07:11 PM
Hibernia&Alba

It was nailed on that Lord Snooty would be neck deep in all of this. Hector needs to give him the Sevco treatment.

https://youtu.be/ahQuXqkc-g8
14-11-2021, 07:59 PM
JimBHibees

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Andrew Marr on the Arcuri allegations ‘salacious’ and ‘nothing really substantial’. Absolute joke. Have you HEARD what she’s accusing him of? Sex for favours. How is that insubstantial?

Still, Corbyn spied for Russia or pissed on the cenotaph or something didn’t he? Pass the salt…

Get the impression Marr is trying to protect a forthcoming honour.
14-11-2021, 09:08 PM
NORTHERNHIBBY

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Get the impression Marr is trying to protect a forthcoming honour.

His programme had a very strange narrative this morning. The newspaper review was more telling the guests what their opinions were and the interview with the,
Labour Party deputy leader was bizarre to say the least. I thought that he was choking on the questions given how tenuous the links that he was trying to make. Almost like he was asking under orders.
14-11-2021, 09:17 PM
Bostonhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBHibees

Get the impression Marr is trying to protect a forthcoming honour.

Could he play the Laura Keunsberg role?

Main requirement seems to be going all starry eyed and tongue tied around Bozo

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14-11-2021, 10:01 PM
Kato

Quote:

Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY

Almost like he was asking under orders.

Editorial. He'll be charged with leading a line or letting loose according to his producers editorial. Newspaper articles are the same. I don't think a flagship BBC political programme should be so heavily trimmed though.

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15-11-2021, 03:57 PM
Keith_M

As yet more evidence comes forward about just how corrupt the current and former members of this Tory Government are, I lose even more respect for people that express their right to vote for them.

"Half of all ministers who have left office in the Boris Johnson or Theresa May governments later took up posts with companies relevant to their former government jobs

...

Patrick McLoughlin, a former transport secretary, now lists remunerated employment with Airlines UK, an industry lobbying body, and XRail, a railway services company

...

Former health ministers including Lord O’Shaughnessy, Nicola Blackwood and Steve Brine took jobs with private health companies, while the former energy minister John Hayes accepted a role at an energy company."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...mer-department
15-11-2021, 04:34 PM
Ozyhibby

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Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.

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15-11-2021, 04:56 PM
Hibrandenburg

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.

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I've never understood how making it faster and easier to get to London from other cities would benefit those cities, surely easier access to London would only exasperate the brain drain from those areas and deprive local businesses of first choice employees.
15-11-2021, 05:14 PM
Northernhibee

Apparently the PM thinks Starmer is ‘pathetic’ as he has decided to 'congratulate the UK and somehow at the sametime attack myself'
15-11-2021, 05:26 PM
Just Alf

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

I've never understood how making it faster and easier to get to London from other cities would benefit those cities, surely easier access to London would only exasperate the brain drain from those areas and deprive local businesses of first choice employees.

I still remember the promises around the Euro Tunnel project "jump on a train in Scotland and get off in Paris"

Was a bit peeved when the "Scotland" bit actually meant euro Central between Edinburgh and Glasgow rather than direct from each city... but you can imagine my dismay when they decided to end the route in Central London!
15-11-2021, 06:12 PM
cabbageandribs1875

No 10 faces legal challenge to PM’s support for Priti Patel on bullying claims | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

The government faces a legal challenge to Boris Johnson’s decision to back Priti Patel over bullying allegations, throwing a fresh spotlight on the prime minister’s approach to ethics in public life.
Alex Allan, Johnson’s independent adviser on the ministerial code, resigned last year after the prime minister chose not to act on a critical report about Patel.
After a Cabinet Office investigation, citing instances in which she had shouted and sworn at staff, Allan found Patel had displayed “behaviour that can be described as bullying” and that she had “not consistently met the high standards expected of her”.
His report suggested she had breached the ministerial code, even if unintentionally.

vile little thing, part of a vile cabinet, led by the most vile crime minister
15-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

No 10 faces legal challenge to PM’s support for Priti Patel on bullying claims | Boris Johnson | The Guardian

The government faces a legal challenge to Boris Johnson’s decision to back Priti Patel over bullying allegations, throwing a fresh spotlight on the prime minister’s approach to ethics in public life.
Alex Allan, Johnson’s independent adviser on the ministerial code, resigned last year after the prime minister chose not to act on a critical report about Patel.
After a Cabinet Office investigation, citing instances in which she had shouted and sworn at staff, Allan found Patel had displayed “behaviour that can be described as bullying” and that she had “not consistently met the high standards expected of her”.
His report suggested she had breached the ministerial code, even if unintentionally.

vile little thing, part of a vile cabinet, led by the most vile crime minister

Bozo obviously expects a much higher standard of bullying than was achieved here.

As the self appointed judge and jury of what is and isn't right in a democracy he decided early on that the viper that is Patel fell short, and could not therefore be found guilty of bullying in the nasty party sense.

https://mobile.twitter.com/peoplesmo...331586?lang=en

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15-11-2021, 07:28 PM
Kato

It's not just the paid advocacy surrounding "2nd jobs" and directorships. Add in the free jollies, beanos and spiffing days out - in return for speeches and questions.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...stry-by-28-mps

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15-11-2021, 07:39 PM
Stairway 2 7

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a0960e6f82.jpg

Levelling up cancelled. That means it will never go on to Edinburgh now either even though we are having to pay for it.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1460340238811811842

Loads of northern local papers M.E.N ect all doing the same front page in protest tomorrow. Huge own goal alienating the North, good
15-11-2021, 07:55 PM
greenlex

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

https://mobile.twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1460340238811811842

Loads of northern local papers M.E.N ect all doing the same front page in protest tomorrow. Huge own goal alienating the North, good

They probably know the games up and will struggle to keep the wool over their eyes and just said **** it.
15-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Kato

Its almost as though "levelling up" and the phrase "Northern Powerhouse" has the same gravitas as Trump talking about opening American coal mines.

Total con merchants. Grifters, but get kudos because they "talk about it".

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16-11-2021, 07:20 AM
Bostonhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kato

Its almost as though "levelling up" and the phrase "Northern Powerhouse" has the same gravitas as Trump talking about opening American coal mines.

Total con merchants. Grifters, but get kudos because they "talk about it".

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Bozo has already moved onto the next photo opportunity and soundbite, no point in spending too much time being associated with the latest u turn.

Full focus will be on powerfully levelling houses up North. Just as soon as they can find a bus long enough to put it on the side of.

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16-11-2021, 07:23 AM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Bozo has already moved onto the next photo opportunity and soundbite, no point in spending too much time being associated with the latest u turn.

Full focus will be on powerfully levelling houses up North. Just as soon as they can find a bus long enough to put it on the side of.

Johnson might not be in post long enough, now that a senior Tory's turned on his lovable old rogue of a pater.
16-11-2021, 07:42 AM
Bostonhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

Johnson might not be in post long enough, now that a senior Tory's turned on his lovable old rogue of a pater.

Standard practice, con them at the election, wheels come off before the next election, hide behind a new messiah who instantly becomes an unelected leader, sing their praises and get the snouts back in the trough.

Gove's been remarkably well hidden lately.

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16-11-2021, 08:59 AM
Northernhibee

Stanley Johnson accused of sexual harassment on two occasions, one in 2003, one in 2009.
16-11-2021, 09:00 AM
Northernhibee

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/11/16/v...olitical-ally/
16-11-2021, 09:46 AM
Pretty Boy

The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

Who does Harmsworth want in? Satan?
16-11-2021, 09:51 AM
Kato

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

Who does Harmsworth want in? Satan?

Yes, or "Gove" as he's known in this dimension.

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16-11-2021, 09:53 AM
Northernhibee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETuwuKX...g&name=900x900

Tweet sent from a Conservative councillor yesterday. He's apologised for his "political tweet".
16-11-2021, 10:30 AM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETuwuKX...g&name=900x900

Tweet sent from a Conservative councillor yesterday. He's apologised for his "political tweet".

Disgusting. Goering levels of propaganda there.
16-11-2021, 10:31 AM
hibsbollah

Interesting stuff in The Times with the letter from the five most recent Cabinet Secretaries.

Standards rules should be tightened to constrain 'bad people' in government, all living ex cabinet secretaries declare

The Times this morning publishes a letter (paywall) signed by all living former cabinet secretaries. The main points are moderately interesting although, because they are all English civil servants accustomed to communicating by implication and nuance, the real message is much stronger than a superficial reading suggests.

In their letter, the five mandarins - Lord Butler of Brockwell, Lord Wilson of Dinton, Lord O’Donnell, Lord Turnbull and Lord Sedwill - say the government should implement the recommendations in the recent report from the Committee on Standards in Public Life. They say the commissioner for public appointments and the independent adviser on ministerial interests should be put on a statutory basis, and that rules about former ministers taking up business jobs need to be strengthened.

On the ministerial code, they say it should be “strictly enforced”, but with a mechanism for recognising “that some breaches are more important than others”. The committee report says there should be a range of sanctions available for ministers who break the code, including apologies, fines and resignation.

But the letter gets most interesting at the end. The five peers go on:

Rules, though, will only take us so far. Good people will behave well. Bad people may find ways round whatever rules there are, and we should aim to frame regulations to make cheating them harder. But ultimately we need all in positions of trust to set an example: as Lord Evans of Weardale [chair of the Committee on Standards in Public Life] said, our political system is a common good that we all have a responsibility to preserve and improve.

Peter Hennessy, the historian and crossbench peer, is credited with coining what he calls the “good chaps theory of government”. What he means by this is that, because large parts of the British constitution are not codified (or at least weren’t - it has changed a bit in recent years), and depend on informal norms, the whole system depends on the assumption that the key players will behave decently. What the former cabinet secretaries seem to be saying is that this no longer applies, and that tighter rules are needed because the “bad people theory of govenrment” is the one that applies now.

Who could they possibly be referring to? You don’t need to be as clever as Hennessy to guess, although the ex-mandarins don’t say in their letter. On the Today programme this morning Nick Robinson was similarly coy when he asked Lord O’Donnell what might be done about a theoretical prime minister “who is not much interested in what the rules say”. Could rules ever force someone like that to uphold standards? O’Donnell replied:

Well ... you could do quite a lot by rules and by legislation, by forcing people to behave in certain ways. But, ideally, you want people who have a strong instinct for public sector ethos and for obeying the rules. Good people make for good governance.
16-11-2021, 11:39 AM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Disgusting. Goering levels of propaganda there.

Meanwhile in the real world the nasty party has a fundraiser who actually does appear to think like an actual Nazi.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...721.html%3famp

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16-11-2021, 12:26 PM
CropleyWasGod

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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby

Meanwhile in the real world the nasty party has a fundraiser who actually does appear to think like an actual Nazi.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...721.html%3famp

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I'm guessing that,as heir to the throne of Rosebery, he's a Jambo.😉
16-11-2021, 12:31 PM
SHODAN

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

The Mail seem to be going increasingly anti Johnson.

Who does Harmsworth want in? Satan?

Liz Truss probably.
16-11-2021, 12:45 PM
Bostonhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I'm guessing that,as heir to the throne of Rosebery, he's a Jambo.[emoji6]

You don't say[emoji6]

Caspian primrose is a flump? The sort of guy the wore their pink and yellow fondant fancy top in reverence of?[emoji23]

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16-11-2021, 03:47 PM
WhileTheChief..

You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003
16-11-2021, 03:51 PM
Northernhibee

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003

Maybe more so if they hadn't filled their pockets beforehand and it would end up inevitable that this would be the case...
16-11-2021, 04:01 PM
cabbageandribs1875

Stanley Johnson accused of inappropriately touching Tory MP Caroline Nokes (msn.com)

A senior Conservative MP and a journalist have both accused Stanley Johnson of inappropriately touching them.

no surprise in the slightest his son is a grubby repugnant little man as well
16-11-2021, 04:05 PM
wookie70

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

You gotta be pleased with Boris for this....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59311003

Corbyn policy adopted by PM. He was probably a bit pee'd off that other had beaten him to the trough and filled themselves up while he was busy running the country(into the ground)
16-11-2021, 05:03 PM
hibsbollah

Quote:

Originally Posted by wookie70

Corbyn policy adopted by PM. He was probably a bit pee'd off that other had beaten him to the trough and filled themselves up while he was busy running the country(into the ground)

Some of Labours 'radical left' 2019 manifesto now looks decidedly moderate. There was a lot of debate at the start of 2021 about a £15 minimum wage, Corbyn was only calling for £10. A commitment to a Second Brexit Referendum was also in that manifesto, a debate which is of course untouchable for Labour, these days you're more likely to get them to support the Palestinians publicly than say anything negative about Brexit, sad to say.
16-11-2021, 05:08 PM
wookie70

Quote:

Originally Posted by hibsbollah

Some of Labours 'radical left' 2019 manifesto now looks decidedly moderate. There was a lot of debate at the start of 2021 about a £15 minimum wage, Corbyn was only calling for £10. A commitment to a Second Brexit Referendum was also in that manifesto, a debate which is of course untouchable for Labour, these days you're more likely to get them to support the Palestinians publicly than say anything negative about Brexit, sad to say.

The Tories also likely to start prattling on about Green jobs and rebuilding the economy on sustainability. We could have been well ahead of the curve if we had a PM that was more concerned with the country than he was with wallpaper and foreign holidays. The UK like the US is an absolute basket case when it comes to politics. A few dodgy photoshop images of a Cossack hat(with help from the national broadcaster) and that is enough to get a man whose head is filled ear to ear with diarrhoea elected.
16-11-2021, 09:43 PM
Stairway 2 7

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ying-rlhjqhc9x

Tories are revolting..
16-11-2021, 09:52 PM
CapitalGreen

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ying-rlhjqhc9x

Tories are revolting..

You gotta be displeased with the Tories for this…
16-11-2021, 10:02 PM
Kato

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapitalGreen

You gotta be displeased with the Tories for this…

A lot of new tory MP's representing constituencies that have been ignored and taken for granted for 40 years and have voted in Conservative representatives. Partly down to the promises of how much better it will be now we are out of the EU and partly on the promised bonus of "levelling up".

How are they feeling now that their leaders are being revealed as crooks and twisters?

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16-11-2021, 10:23 PM
wookie70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kato

A lot of new tory MP's representing constituencies that have been ignored and taken for granted for 40 years and have voted in Conservative representatives. Partly down to the promises of how much better it will be now we are out of the EU and partly on the promised bonus of "levelling up".

How are they feeling now that their leaders are being revealed as crooks and twisters?

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They are either feeling like idiots or if they aren't they are feeling unsurprised. The Tories are doing what the Tories do, the reverse Robin Hood, with corruption at its core.
17-11-2021, 03:11 AM
Hibrandenburg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kato

A lot of new tory MP's representing constituencies that have been ignored and taken for granted for 40 years and have voted in Conservative representatives. Partly down to the promises of how much better it will be now we are out of the EU and partly on the promised bonus of "levelling up".

How are they feeling now that their leaders are being revealed as crooks and twisters?

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They're British crooks and twisters, so I'd imagine they're feeling fine. Anyone who still thinks that Brexit and the Tories haven't received a huge boost because of xenophobia, has their head up their erchie.
17-11-2021, 07:32 AM
Bostonhibby

What's the difference between Red Wall Tory voters and Jennifer Arcuri?

Both used and abused by Bozo but only one got a free holiday and hand out from the UK tax payer.

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17-11-2021, 08:09 AM
hibsbollah

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Originally Posted by Northernhibee

Stanley Johnson accused of sexual harassment on two occasions, one in 2003, one in 2009.

The BBC are contractually obliged to not use the words ‘sexual assault’ in this case. Remember, guys, when we’re reporting creeps we like, we call it ‘inappropriate touching’.
17-11-2021, 08:22 AM
Radium

https://twitter.com/privateeyenews/s...212490756?s=21

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