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U20's Ireland v Scotland just kicking off, Ireland will win this and complete the grand slam, and wooden spoon for us
Under-20 Six Nations LIVE: Watch Ireland v Scotland plus score - Live - BBC Sport
Italy won in Wales earlier 27-20
done quite well to last a full 5 minutes 7-0 Ireland
FT 59-5 quite sad a watch
Another tough night for the Scotland Under 20s - just completely overpowered really, nothing they could do, that's just their level unfortunately.
That's 10 straight losses at that grade now, lost all five in the Six Nations last year and lost all five again this year. Conceded 25+ points in each of the 10 games.
So not much coming through it seems.
good article by Tom English Six Nations 2022: Scotland going backwards & to say otherwise is delusional - BBC Sport
doesn't say much about Townsend either that he hoped the story wouldn't break...as if the players wouldn't be spotted in Rose Street :rolleyes: let himself and Scottish Rugby down Hogg :agree: not to mention the others, finn russell AGAIN along with Price, Tuipulotu, Darcy Graham and Sam Johnson.
Hogg should consider announcing he's standing down, rather than have somebody else do it for him. Either way, it's hard to imagine him captaining this team. Can he stand in front of the rest of the squad and talk about standards when he, himself, has fallen so short?
Hogg and others like to talk about the good culture in the squad. Unquestionably, there are loads of terrific pros in that group - those are the ones you feel sorry for. They've been badly let down by the six - and by the management who took little or no action against them.
Perhaps Hogg will be rested for the summer tour and somebody else will be appointed to the role and that will be the succession done without a fanfare.
On the face of it a few beers after a win a week before the next game sounds like a very good idea in terms of relaxation for a few hours. Should have been run past the coaches or maybe it was and the players reneged and went anyway. Is the e any link to the pre match press conference English was referring to?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Personally I don't really see the issue with them going out, if they got absolutely hammered that's another story but is it really that bad to fly home after a victory in Rome and have a few beers with teammates? Seems like a storm in a teacup to me.
Agreed and sounds like Townsend is a dictator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
I bumped into the French boys outside Brewhemia in Edinburgh after they hammered Scotland. I even got a photo with the centre, Danty, who was outside having a smoke. It didn’t seem to do the French any harm!
That’s the rugby culture in France though, and given Finn plays there, it’s not surprising he see’s no issue with going out for a few beers after a win.
It was, according to the Exeter coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Stuart Hogg fell foul of Scotland 'ambiguity', says Exeter Chiefs' Rob Baxter - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/60863536
The players will have agreed the rules prior to the tournament and blatantly went against them. Sounds like they weren't happy with the "treatment" of or the celebration for Ali Price's 50th cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mcbizz1998
Tom Smith has died this evening at just 50 years old. Absolutely one of the greatest props to ever play for Scotland and the Lions. RIP
How sad is that. Brilliant player and was huge in the legendary Lions tour in South Africa with Telfer and McGeechan. Saw an interview not that long ago and he seemed like a very humble guy with a great sense of humour. RIP Tom.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
heartbreaking news
European Challenge Cup last 16
Lyon v Worcester Warriors
Toulon v Benetton
Edinburgh v Bath
Gloucester v Northampton Saints
Saracens v Cardiff
Biarritz Olympique v Wasps
London Irish v Castres
Newcastle Falcons v Glasgow Warriors
HT Newcastle Falcons 3 Glasgow Warriors 19
FT 17- 27
Glasgow away to Lyon in the QF
FT Edinburgh 41 Bath 19, great result, home to Wasps in the QF
Really good second half from us tonight. The referee was utterly awful though - not even a TMO saved him from some terrible decisions. Do French refs get taught offside, or do Bath have some kind of immunity?Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
That's still with us missing Ritchie, Darcy, Owsley, Nel...some really great depth in this current Edinburgh team.
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Originally Posted by Sylar
Try Edinburgh against bottom side Zebre after 45 seconds, converted 7-0
FT in S Africa Stormers 32 Glasgow 7
Six Nations fixtures 2023 (all times GMT)
Saturday 4 February
Wales v Ireland (14:15)
England v Scotland (16:45)
Sunday 5 February
Italy v France (15:00)
Saturday 11 February
Ireland v France (14:15)
Scotland v Wales (16:45)
Sunday 12 February
England v Italy (15:00)
Saturday 25 February
Italy v Ireland (14:15)
Wales v England (16:45)
Sunday 26 February
France v Scotland (15:00)
Saturday 11 March
Italy v Wales (14:15)
England v France (16:45)
Sunday 12 March
Scotland v Ireland (15:00)
Saturday 18 March
Scotland v Italy (12:30)
France v Wales (14:45)
Ireland v England (17:00)
I don`t really follow rugby but have just read about Spain`s expulsion from next year`s world cup .4 years ago they missed out on qualification for 2019 WC for some off field reason too . At that time it seemed very unfair , this time it seems to be down to incompetence of administrators . Anyway , apparently Rumania will take Spain`s place and Portugal are now in play playoffs
. Spanish problem concerned documents of a South African who had lived in Spain for a while before playing for Spain because of residence and questions about how long he`d lived in Spain without interruption . Reading Spanish sports paper Marca , another Spanish international from outside Spain ( France ) criticised the Spanish federation for incompetence but interestingly that drew many replies along the lines of ( Why criticise Spain as it`s the country that`s given you the chance to play international rugby? ). One other comment mentioned that Scotland had started a recent 6 Nations match with only 2 players who had been born in Scotland .
very tasty indeed, can't get much tougher imo....well, unless we replaced Fiji with S A, huge physical games
Autumn Nations Series 2022
Scotland v Australia (Saturday, 29 October, 17:30 GMT)
Scotland v Fiji (Saturday, 5 November, 13:00)
Scotland v New Zealand (Sunday, 13 November, 14:15)
Scotland v Argentina (Saturday, 19 November, 15:15)
A tough first defeat at the DAM last night against an admittedly very good Ulster side.
Almost grabbed the win at the death, but wasn't to be. Great to see the place sold out - was an incredible atmosphere at times.
How Ben Whitehouse earns a wage as a referee will forever be a mystery to me though - some of his decisions last nighth were absolutely awful.
Still, into the playoffs of the URC!
Ireland will play three games in November against..
South Africa
Fiji
Australia
they also have a 3-game series in New Zealand this summer
Edinburgh vs Glasgow tonight at BT Murrayfield in the final URC game of the season (and round 2 of the 1872 Cup).
Looking forward to it - both teams have named strong lineups, so it should be a cracker.
Edinburgh 17-10 down v Stormers just into the 2nd half.
total hammering for Glasgow earlier today by Leinster 76-14 FT
Edinburgh presently only getting beat in Cape Town 17-10 by Stormers after 46 mins, quite surprising really :greengrin
20-10, the game might be beyond them unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
25-10 Stormers
25-17
Try Edinburgh
nice seeing Senalta for the stormers the dude was great for SA 7's
28-17
1st state of origin on Wednesday morning for the RL peeps
Phil Bennett died aged 73. Great Welsh fly half. I remember him waltzing through Scots defence at Murrayfield to score. Rugby was brilliant in those days.
Incredible player. That welsh team was amazing. Bit before my time but growing up in Wales you sure hear about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
His play in that momentous try for Barbarians against All Blacks in Cardiff is sensational. Fantastic player. RIPQuote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
FT England 21 Barbarians 52, Barbarians played whole of the 2nd half with just 14 after will skelton became the first ever Barbarian to get a red card, a pretty harsh red card at that
always fun watching any eddie jones side getting a doin :greengrin
His face when the final whistle went was priceless.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
The back heel conversion was ridiculous :greengrin
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Originally Posted by Sylar
and he was going to do it a 2nd time right at the end but i think the referee had a wee wordie in his ear :(
anyway
Chile v Scotland A just starting on Premier Sports
HT 0-28
FT 5-45
I don't plan on moving very much on Saturday:
Japan vs France
New Zealand vs Ireland
Australia vs England
South Africa vs Wales
Argentina vs Scotland
I might well be utterly ******ed on the couch by the time Scotland kick off :greengrin
How are you watching them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Looking at the telly? 🤔Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
There’s always one 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
https://www.wheresthematch.com/live-rugby-union-on-tv/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
They're all on Sky Sports Action with the exception of Japan vs France, which is on Premier Sports.
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Originally Posted by Jones28
Once answered a similar question in a training room exercise by saying ‘with my eyes’, which completely flummoxed the person asking 😂
Hamish Watson picked up an injury at training and will miss the 1st test
Here we go! 🍺🍿🍺🍜😃🍺Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Contrasting national anthems there. 😀
Great start from Ireland, All Blacks getting well on top now. 21-5 just before HT.
28-5.
28-12
35-12, what a player that Savea is.
Some bonkers decisions throughout this game clearly always going the all blacks way. I thought they must have changed the rules on knock ons, but Ireland getting penalised so they can't have.
42-12
Missed the last few minutes of the Ireland game, in the boozer now so, should be plain sailing for a while! 🖒🍺🖒
Oz 0 England 6
3-6
Red card for Oz for a head butt, sheer stupidity, game over.
ref got that absolutely spot on there, yellow for the england player and a red for the stupid idiot, he will cost his side the game, eejit
6-6 ht
9-6, man advantage now for England.
9-11
9-14
16-14
Yellow card for England, interesting! 🤔
oooee try australia
21-14 70 mins, conversion to come
23-14
23-14
oh wow try aussies
converted 30-14 go the 14
30-19
30-21
30-14, cracking performance from the Aussies here.
30-19
30-21, great entertainment. 👏
aussies down to 13 for the last seconds
looks better if it's reported that the 13 beat the 15
another england try 30-26 kick to come
the 13 slipped up :greengrin
30-26
30-28 ft, great watch!
no rugby for 3 hours :(
How wrong can you be? 😃Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
SA decision making has been pretty poor in this game imo, 11-3 down and instead of going for touch with the penalty the dude took a certainly not easy kick at goals which he missed then near the posts he kicks it over to the wing where it was just a one-on-one and by no means his player would get it, which he didn't...anyway
wales leading 18-3
alwyn jones yellow card on 67 mins
wales down to 13 73 mins
Try SA 74 mins 29-24
wales down to 12 75 mins
wales try 29-29 have SA blown it...kick to come
oooohh slipped it wide
and yet again another terrible kick out of touch from a south african
deliberate knock-on by biggar pen SA on 81 mins
FT 32-29 pi$$er for the welsh
they go again next Sat
This is boring
we're like wee lost boys here truly awful so far, we do love giving away penalties don't we
35 mins and not been anywhere near the Argentinian try line
still, thankfully only 18-6 at the moment
my goodness, turner can't even throw a quick line-out ball straight
18-18, see what happens when townsend threatens to send them all home early from their holidays :greengrin
only a scottish rugby side could leak a try straight from the restart
The commentator referring to Argentina as “Los Pumas” every 2 mins is really annoying me [emoji23]
first time i've ever turned over from a scottish rugby game before the end
Ref is at it imo brutal. Every decision
Insipid, error-strewn and out of ideas too quickly.
I seen most of the games yesterday and I couldn't help but note we were the only home nation to not take their 'big' players with us - Hogg, Russell and Watson are major misses when they don't play.
I feel like a broken record, but it's time to move on from Townsend. Not because we lost a test yesterday, but because I consistently fail to see any improvement under his management. We're not progressing at all.
I fear for us in the Autumn Internationals if that same team turn up against the Wallabies, All Blacks and 'Los Pumas' (:greengrin) again.
Does anyone know when the schedule for the Commonwealth Games rugby 7s comes out? I have tickets for the 7s for Friday 29th. All I’ve been able to find is that games will be between 5:30PM and 10PM.
I need to buy train tickets to go back to London. I’d rather not plan on staying in Coventry until 10PM if Scotland’s last game that night is significantly earlier.
Scotland u20's hammered 55-17 by Georgia in the under-20 six nations summer series in Italy, 13th consecutive loss, 12-0 up at one stage then of course the usual collapse
what a state our game is in :bitchy: watching our 7's sides regularly it's really not that much of a surprise, we just can't seem to progress at this game
That's a terrible resultQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Scottish Rugby is a shambles below the National team, and to an extent the two pro sides. I could write hundreds if words on what a dysfunctional organisation it is especially if you are one if the smaller clubs. It is the demise of club rugby that is leading to the situation where our u23s etc are so poor. The national team we can prop up with foreigners but no one is going to come to Scotland to play u23.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
My club hasn't had a 2nd XV out regularly for at least 10 years. We used to run 3 XVs and an U18s. There are bigger clubs who used to run six or seven teams at the weekend who now only have two.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Its astounding that the Head of Scottish Rugby is paid almost £1million, how that can be justified beats me.
Yeah but he is seen as a success cos we are doing OK at mens international level and we had huge investment from BT. I have been involved with my local club for 40 years now as a player, club captain, coach, committe member etc and the SRU are a disgrace. We have never been so poorly supported and the league structures are stupid to put it mildly. We are unfortunately in Midlands league now having been in national league for a while too. The Midlands league us regional but we could, and have, had to play Orkney and Caithness in the same season before. Orkney is a full weekend and £000 of pounds for the club. Caithness is at best all day Saturday and most if Sunday gone. For a regional amateur game that is awful. I could go on for hours about how inept the SRU are when it comes to the championship committees. Only interested in the bigger clubs with no regard to smaller ones. We will always be a feeder club but we get no help anymore to continue to feed players towards the big clubs. Aw, man I shouldn't have started that rant, my blood pressure is going up and it'll never change. Still too many posh boys running rugby who can't see past private schools and the big city clubs I'm afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
I feel your pain ! Just yesterday I was speaking to a friend who attended a dinner where Ian Paxton where was one of the principle speakers. Let's just say that Packy was none too complimentary about Scottish Rugby's hierarchy! What I didn't realise was the fact that Ireland has twice as many registered rugby players as Scotland and attracting kids to the game seems to be an increasing problem since covid appeared on the scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Ireland is a huge success. We have friends who are members of Ennis rugby club, when they lived in Scotland they were members of our club. Ennis is no bigger than my club here and no more successful. They are a junior club in the Munster catchment area. They are teaming with kids of all ages and do really well at age grade, they also have a pathway through to bigger clubs, Munster academy and then Ireland. In Scotland your pathway is made much easier for you if you attend one of the private schools. I sent one of the kids I coached, a really good player from a real rugby family, to Caledonia selection. Got the report back and it read like it was a different kid they had been assessing. When the Caley squad was announced it was full of Dollar Academy, Morrisons Academy, Aberdeen Grammer, Stirling County etc. We then played a game against another Midlands club and i was reffing. Our kid told me that two of the opposition back row had been at Caley camp with him so I watched how they got on against each other. They were certainly not any better than our boy but they did have the advantage of being at one if the bigger clubs in the district and also went to a private school. It also appeared that the Caey coaches/selectors are already aware of these kids as they mostly work with private schools and the bigger clubs. We could definitely learn from what and how Ireland have done as it just feels like we are fishing in a small pond and making it even smaller by overlooking a lot of potential players. My pals in Ireland having seen both countries don't think there is the same old school tie issue in Ireland as in ScotlandQuote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
I promise that will be my last rant on the subject!!
I'm from the Borders where traditionally Rugby Union is taught in the Schools and is definitely looked upon as being the working man's sport. Times are changing though and I'd say that football is now gaining the upper hand which in time, can only have a detrimental effect on the numbers participating in rugby union.Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
Yeah, the borders probably bucks the trend fir the rest of Scotland. As you say though even the borders teams are starting to struggle a bit which is very sad to see. There should have been a 3rd pro team based in the bordersQuote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Ireland 10 up v All Blacks, NZ man sent off and currently down to 13 men. Discipline sadly lacking from The All Blacks so far.
10-7 ht.
Tough red card that. By the letter of the law it's a red but the move happened so fast I'm not sure he could have done much different. It us why the law was changed I suppose so he had to go
17-7
23-12 ft.
Flying start for England now too. 0-7.
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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
thanks for that insight into the game at grass roots, quite concerning the national side has to rely on so many players making their way from other countries and not so many from grass roots here.
England will beat the Aussies, wish i had been a little braver and included Ireland to beat the all blacks in my bet on the rugby today :)
16-0 England