(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by J-C

Should've seen their faces when I suggested giving Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona etc back to Mexico instead of building a wall.

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California as well

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Originally Posted by JimBHibees

There is no equivalence between Trump and Biden though

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Biden has a history of being the Mob's man in Baltimore.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Biden has a history of being the Mob's man in Baltimore.

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Even so 😄

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Originally Posted by s.a.m

A few months back, the Democrats did a poll of 'gettable' voters in some of the swing states. They excluded people from the sample who had voted for Trump or were likely to, and tried to find out what they knew about some of his more extreme statements. And basically, most of them hadn't heard or read any of it.

It's known that one of the most important factors in voters' choice is where they get their news and information, with Trump voters likely to be getting their info /disinfo from social media or the more extreme cable outlets, rather than newspaper journalism or mainstream news programmes where the extreme right and the conspiracy theorists have a strong foothold. In the more fragmented media landscape we have now, it's going to be really important for the Democrats (and the non-right in the UK and elsewhere) to learn how to use it and to take information to where people are at now.

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Takes a lot of money. The Russians spand millions promoting far right and a few far left entities world wide. Whatever causes friction, divides. The main themes they put are emotionally driven lies, so that's a lot to combat and undermines any message.

Russian influence is reported in the UK but has barely gained any traction. The incidents and narratives of what has happened since Blair offered the Oiligarchs a home in the UK (and a home in a UK offshore dependency for their cash) to when the Reform supporting Facebook pages were taken down last week is still an untold story for the public, but it's all part of the same story.

Labour need to bring it to the fore. Doesn't have to be big headlines. Do something like audit MI5/6, don't just publish the Russia report but recommence it with a broader remit - remember they were tasked NOT to look for evidence which is fishy as.


To back the idea up that there is undoubtedly Russian interference, Boris Johnson, husband of "The Conservative Friends of Russia" founder Carrie Symonds, said with his mouth that wasn't any, not a sausage. Which means there must have been.

Labour won't be surrounded by friends when they arrive in power. They have to plant their feet a bit.

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Originally Posted by Kato

Takes a lot of money. The Russians spand millions promoting far right and a few far left entities world wide. Whatever causes friction, divides. The main themes they put are emotionally driven lies, so that's a lot to combat and undermines any message.

Russian influence is reported in the UK but has barely gained any traction. The incidents and narratives of what has happened since Blair offered the Oiligarchs a home in the UK (and a home in a UK offshore dependency for their cash) to when the Reform supporting Facebook pages were taken down last week is still an untold story for the public, but it's all part of the same story.

Labour need to bring it to the fore. Doesn't have to be big headlines. Do something like audit MI5/6, don't just publish the Russia report but recommence it with a broader remit - remember they were tasked NOT to look for evidence which is fishy as.


To back the idea up that there is undoubtedly Russian interference, Boris Johnson, husband of "The Conservative Friends of Russia" founder Carrie Symonds, said with his mouth that wasn't any, not a sausage. Which means there must have been.

Labour won't be surrounded by friends when they arrive in power. They have to plant their feet a bit.

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Johnstons behaviour when foreign secretary was bizarre

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Originally Posted by Kato

Takes a lot of money. The Russians spand millions promoting far right and a few far left entities world wide. Whatever causes friction, divides. The main themes they put are emotionally driven lies, so that's a lot to combat and undermines any message.

Russian influence is reported in the UK but has barely gained any traction. The incidents and narratives of what has happened since Blair offered the Oiligarchs a home in the UK (and a home in a UK offshore dependency for their cash) to when the Reform supporting Facebook pages were taken down last week is still an untold story for the public, but it's all part of the same story.

Labour need to bring it to the fore. Doesn't have to be big headlines. Do something like audit MI5/6, don't just publish the Russia report but recommence it with a broader remit - remember they were tasked NOT to look for evidence which is fishy as.


To back the idea up that there is undoubtedly Russian interference, Boris Johnson, husband of "The Conservative Friends of Russia" founder Carrie Symonds, said with his mouth that wasn't any, not a sausage. Which means there must have been.

Labour won't be surrounded by friends when they arrive in power. They have to plant their feet a bit.

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"Russian influence is reported in the UK but has barely gained any traction."

Seriously? They payrolled Brexit and helped fund the crooks that have been governing the UK for over a decade.

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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg

"Russian influence is reported in the UK but has barely gained any traction."

Seriously? They payrolled Brexit and helped fund the crooks that have been governing the UK for over a decade.

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I'm talking about the actual reporting of what has happened. The traction it has in the culture is what needs the media's attention.

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https://x.com/skynews/status/1808525...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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I don’t bet at all these days but still keep an eye on the odds of various things out of interest.

Joe Biden is up at 7/1 to win the US election which seems crazy seeing as he’s still stating the intention to stand.

Kamal Harris only 4/1 for someone not current standing and Trump very low odds.

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Originally Posted by Paul1642

I don’t bet at all these days but still keep an eye on the odds of various things out of interest.

Joe Biden is up at 7/1 to win the US election which seems crazy seeing as he’s still stating the intention to stand.

Kamal Harris only 4/1 for someone not current standing and Trump very low odds.

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I think Biden will stand down before the end of the month and Harris will be President.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

I think Biden will stand down before the end of the month and Harris will be President.


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Another completely incoherent speech from him for the 4th of July and BBC reporting that democrat donors are threatening to pull funding. Can’t see him lasting much longer.

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Originally Posted by Paul1642

Another completely incoherent speech from him for the 4th of July and BBC reporting that democrat donors are threatening to pull funding. Can’t see him lasting much longer.

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Surely the answer is for Biden to step down both from the election race and maybe even as president citing I'll health brought on by the stress of the additional workload the election is adding to his already stressful job.
Let Harris step up in his place both as nominee and acting president.

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Originally Posted by Just Alf

Surely the answer is for Biden to step down both from the election race and maybe even as president citing I'll health brought on by the stress of the additional workload the election is adding to his already stressful job.
Let Harris step up in his place both as nominee and acting president.

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Harris should be the ideal candidate and I thought he would have passed the baton to her mid term already. She’s been pretty anonymous though. I eonder why.

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Originally Posted by Colr

Harris should be the ideal candidate and I thought he would have passed the baton to her mid term already. She’s been pretty anonymous though. I eonder why.

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It’s pretty normal though. The vice president doesn’t really have a role in the US unless the President dies. That’s all they are really for.


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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

It’s pretty normal though. The vice president doesn’t really have a role in the US unless the President dies. That’s all they are really for.


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LBJ was a good stand in.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

It’s pretty normal though. The vice president doesn’t really have a role in the US unless the President dies. That’s all they are really for.


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Or they can invoke the 25th I think it is and make the president stand down?

Or am I watching too much TV?

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Originally Posted by Hibs4185

Or they can invoke the 25th I think it is and make the president stand down?

Or am I watching too much TV?

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Has that ever happened before?

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Originally Posted by Colr

Has that ever happened before?

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Don’t think so but on Biden’s performances, there would be a change of success. Although they’d never do it as it would be political suicide for the GOP to exploit

https://x.com/joebiden/status/180931...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

If you have to say it ……


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another 250 Epstein files were released last week, here is Katie Johnson divulging what Epstein and that beast Trump done to her, she was aged just 13 years old, �������������� on X: "This is Katie Johnson. She was 13. It’s hard to watch but she described being raped and losing her virginity to Donald Trump while crying and begging him to stop. After, he was mad that she was crying. https://t.co/VDd0y7JfQq" / X


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GR_cdXVW...g&name=900x900
Denise Wheeler ���� on X: "4 yrs ago, Anonymous leaked these documents detailing Trump underage rape settlements. The cases go way beyond those reported in the mainstream press with Epstein. It is so sickening & shows that Trump has a disturbing taste for children. https://t.co/F9JeN2lBeC" / X

**** sake slip ups like this we all do but not now when the pressure is on, it's a shame as he's 100 times the man trump ever was or will be

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1811517934751056038
Biden introduces Zelenskyy as "President Putin,"

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

**** sake slip ups like this we all do but not now when the pressure is on, it's a shame as he's 100 times the man trump ever was or will be

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1811517934751056038
Biden introduces Zelenskyy as "President Putin,"

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Not long now. Will be fascinating to watch how they do the handover. Straight to Harris or a contested convention?


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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

**** sake slip ups like this we all do but not now when the pressure is on, it's a shame as he's 100 times the man trump ever was or will be

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1811517934751056038
Biden introduces Zelenskyy as "President Putin,"

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Someone close needs to do some kind of intervention.

Can’t see him surviving this,sad to see for anybody but it’s clear his marbles have gone

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Originally Posted by jamie_1875

Someone close needs to do some kind of intervention.

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His wife would be best. He’ll know himself though. The donors are already making moves.


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an hour later he called vice-president Kamala Harris "vice-president Trump" in front of a national TV audience



Trump has been pretty quiet since the release of those epstein files but he's made a lot of name gaffes as well

Harry Sisson on X: "Here are 3 minutes straight of Donald Trump confusing people and messing up people’s names. I’m sure the Republicans won’t talk about this though! https://t.co/GORqIizdNl" / X



what a choice for the yanks :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Willis1875

Can’t see him surviving this,sad to see for anybody but it’s clear his marbles have gone

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He’s just getting old. Happens to everyone. Clearly a decision needs to be taken out of his hands difficult as that may be

When you introduce Zelenskiy as "President Putin", then surely you've really lost it.

Time to stand down, Mr Biden.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

His wife would be best. He’ll know himself though. The donors are already making moves.


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Kind of think it may be better if not his wife but high ranking democrats

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

an hour later he called vice-president Kamala Harris "vice-president Trump" in front of a national TV audience



Trump has been pretty quiet since the release of those epstein files but he's made a lot of name gaffes as well

Harry Sisson on X: "Here are 3 minutes straight of Donald Trump confusing people and messing up people’s names. I’m sure the Republicans won’t talk about this though! https://t.co/GORqIizdNl" / X



what a choice for the yanks :rolleyes:

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Yes trump not great with names either 😄