The generic Hearts thread

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Originally Posted by Kojock

You say stupid humans....I say it's been created by highly intelligent physicists. I refuse to believe this pandemic was caused by someone eating bat soup or whatever. This is biological warfare designed by the perpetrators to bring powerful nations to their knees. There's one super power with a remarkably low number of cases reported despite having very strong travel, emigration, immigration and trade relationships with China. You do the maths.

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I’ve got a tin foil hat you can buy for £7,000.

Sounds expensive I know, but it repels all known pandemics, even autism.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

OK, Italy. How come it has a disproportionate amount of cases in relation to China? Italy population 60m - China population 1.2bn. Check cases and deaths and population demographic.

Ask yourself, who gains out of disaster capitalism? Break it, own it and change it.

How come people in various parts of the world are becoming infected without coming into contact with a spreader or any sign of the virus being resident?

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Chem trails🤯

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

OK, Italy. How come it has a disproportionate amount of cases in relation to China? Italy population 60m - China population 1.2bn. Check cases and deaths and population demographic.

Ask yourself, who gains out of disaster capitalism? Break it, own it and change it.

How come people in various parts of the world are becoming infected
without coming into contact with a spreader or any sign of the virus being resident?

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But again China and Iran are two of the least capitalist countries on earth? China own it already.

Italy has a far higher average population age, second to only Japan I think.
This is why so many are dieing.

How do you know if you have ever been in contact with a spreader? This is nigh on impossible?

Also the chances of China fully reporting their deaths accurately I would say are slim.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

I’ve got a tin foil hat you can buy for £7,000.

Sounds expensive I know, but it repels all known pandemics, even autism.

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Even Autism - WTF you on about.

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Originally Posted by Chip shop Joe

But again China and Iran are two of the least capitalist countries on earth? China own it already.

Italy has a far higher average population age, second to only Japan I think.
This is why so many are dieing.

How do you know if you have ever been in contact with a spreader? This is nigh on impossible?

Also the chances of China fully reporting their deaths accurately I would say are slim.

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Very slim indeed re China.
Italy does indeed have an older population.
CNN covered the odd occurrence.

Edinburgh Uni asked for funding three years ago to research and develop an antiviral for virus-X but were refused. This was reported this morning of BBC Scotland news. Of course, virus-X could be anything and quite easily be a generic funding stream however, the report and proceeding interview was a little enlightening.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Can all the conspiracy weirdos be moved to their own thread in the Holy ground board?


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Oh the irony :greengrin:wink:

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

I know. Which is why any decisions made should be aimed at making the impact as light as possible on as few clubs as possible. There is already talk of expanding the EPL to 22 teams next season to allow Leeds and West Brom promotion and allow the bottom EPL clubs survival into next season. Even if that doesn't happen I would imagine the compensation payments to single clubs would be huge. No prospect of that in Scotland, so ensuring as many clubs as possible, not to mention the league itself, can just keep trading to their maximum potential is where we have to go IMO.

For me that means if the league is cancelled then it has to be a 14 team premiership next season ... its not just about survival, its ensuring that we continue to have as many full time clubs as possible ..... there's no competition for Celtic now with every club in the premiership full time, imagine how bad it would be if half our full time clubs ended up part time? which could happen if this goes on for too long, some are teetering on the brink as it is.

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If there is a fourteen team top flight next season, how do you get back to twelve for future years? Do you relegate three clubs out of fourteen and promote one (in which case the top flight clubs will be against it) or relegate two with no promotion (in which case the championship clubs will be against it?

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

If anyone thinks the corona virus was due to bat soup, pangolins or any other exotic animal in China, you are effin out there! This virus has been engineered and delivered by nefarious means and has a set purpose! Think about pensions, public sector burden on taxes, bypassing unions and the rise of the compliant workforce.

This virus has a huge impact on society resulting in an unprecedented change that will suit those with money who want to protect the environment for themselves while ensuring the compliant workforce make them billions of pounds/dollars/yen etc in the process.

Think hard about this and much more out of the box before dismissing theories.

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3 trains of civilisation - you’re in the last carriage with all the other conspiracy theorist dragging everyone back and slowing it down with your a self absorbed p!sh.

Imho, there's no chance that the season will be completed by the end of June, in which case it'll be as you were and current standings will be used.

Ideally, you'd see Hearts relegated after the whole season has been completed, but I can't see how that can happen.

We might see clubs, desperate for cash, start to put pressure on the SPFL board to draw a conclusion long before June so that they can use prize money to survive.

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Originally Posted by greenlex

The season needs to be completed. If that impacts next season then that’s what should happen. If we can’t get playing till Oct/November we finish it then. Players come and go in any case. If their contracts are up they are up. Clubs will still be able to field teams with existing or new players but the season should be finished. We can scrap the cup and share the prize money 4 ways.

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Next season play each other twice.

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Why disrupt next season when we don't know when this season can be finished? And why keep the league but not the Cup?

It makes far more sense to call this season complete and allow everyone to plan for next season, with a probable start date of 1 August and possibly dropping the league cup to keep spare dates in case of any delay in starting (eg the October scenario you mention). It also means that you don't have the bizarre situation of clubs finishing the season with very different squads to those that started it.

The only games I would look to play are the three Scottish Cup games, but if that can't be done before the end of June then I'd write off this season's competition.

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Originally Posted by Roxyhibee

3 trains of civilisation - you’re in the last carriage with all the other conspiracy theorist dragging everyone back and slowing it down with your a self absorbed p!sh.

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Your analogy is garbage!

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Originally Posted by jacomo

I’ve got a tin foil hat you can buy for £7,000.

Sounds expensive I know, but it repels all known pandemics, even autism.

:agree:

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Autism? Beyond words.

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Originally Posted by Kojock

Even Autism - WTF you on about.

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Exactly shan patter - what a dinosaur - iirc the club run a team for kids on the autistic spectrum.

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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

Autism? Beyond words.

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I’m all for banter and having a laugh etc but that comment re Autism is beyond the pale. Would like to think the person would have the decency to remove the comment and apologise.

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Originally Posted by Kojock

I’m all for banter and having a laugh etc but that comment re Autism is beyond the pale. Would like to think the person would have the decency to remove the comment and apologise.

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TBF, autism was likely included because it is the subject of other crackpot conspiracy theories regarding vaccinations.


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Originally Posted by matty_f

Imho, there's no chance that the season will be completed by the end of June, in which case it'll be as you were and current standings will be used.

Ideally, you'd see Hearts relegated after the whole season has been completed, but I can't see how that can happen.

We might see clubs, desperate for cash, start to put pressure on the SPFL board to draw a conclusion long before June so that they can use prize money to survive.

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A decision needs to be made soon because clubs need to know whether to shut down for the season. They also need to know if they should be trying to get 1 month contract extensions for their out of contract players. That would need to be started now.


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Originally Posted by MrSmith

Your analogy is garbage!

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You just don’t understand it. Embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Kojock

I’m all for banter and having a laugh etc but that comment re Autism is beyond the pale. Would like to think the person would have the decency to remove the comment and apologise.

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That person is me, but the whoosh is yours.

It was a response to your nut job conspiracy theory - possibly in poor taste, but I have less and less tolerance for people who spew any kind of nonsense they want, just because it’s their opinion. Especially at a time of genuine global concern.

The idea that Coronavirus is a man made bio weapon is so lacking in evidence it’s comparable to anti-vaxxers claiming the MMR jab causes autism.

Why don’t you apologise for posting scurrilous rumours?

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

TBF, autism was likely included because it is the subject of other crackpot conspiracy theories regarding vaccinations.


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:agree:

Ozyhibby knows the score.

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

TBF, autism was likely included because it is the subject of other crackpot conspiracy theories regarding vaccinations.


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I'm really not sure this justifies the comment.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

If anyone thinks the corona virus was due to bat soup, pangolins or any other exotic animal in China, you are effin out there! This virus has been engineered and delivered by nefarious means and has a set purpose! Think about pensions, public sector burden on taxes, bypassing unions and the rise of the compliant workforce.

This virus has a huge impact on society resulting in an unprecedented change that will suit those with money who want to protect the environment for themselves while ensuring the compliant workforce make them billions of pounds/dollars/yen etc in the process.

Think hard about this and much more out of the box before dismissing theories.

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The worst affected region of Italy also happens to be the wealthiest so there goes that conspiracy theory as it’s having a devastiating impact on Lombardy, Italy’s financial hub!!

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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

I'm really not sure this justifies the comment.

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Whoosh to you too.

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Originally Posted by Roxyhibee

You just don’t understand it. Embarrassing.

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You sure are coming out with pish like that!

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Originally Posted by jacomo

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Ozyhibby knows the score.

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I don't think he does. Unless terrible analogies of severe
disabilities is something funny?

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

If anyone thinks the corona virus was due to bat soup, pangolins or any other exotic animal in China, you are effin out there! This virus has been engineered and delivered by nefarious means and has a set purpose! Think about pensions, public sector burden on taxes, bypassing unions and the rise of the compliant workforce.

This virus has a huge impact on society resulting in an unprecedented change that will suit those with money who want to protect the environment for themselves while ensuring the compliant workforce make them billions of pounds/dollars/yen etc in the process.

Think hard about this and much more out of the box before dismissing theories.

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Do you want one of my tin foil hats too?

You have no evidence for your, ahem, theory, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

I don't think he does. Unless terrible analogies of severe
disabilities is something funny?

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It’s gone over your head mate.

I was poking fun at conspiracy theorists, not people with autism.

Move on.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

Whoosh to you too.

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Yay. Woosh.

This is like when Detroit Hibs tried to justify calling people 'window lickers'.

I can only hope you never experience disabilities in your family.

Bizarre logic.

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Originally Posted by jacomo

It’s gone over your head mate.

I was poking fun at conspiracy theorists, not people with autism.

Move on.

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So why refer to autism?

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Originally Posted by SquashedFrogg

So why refer to autism?

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Because a favourite belief of conspiracy theorists is that the MMR vaccine cause autism.

Google Andrew Wakefield for more. Actually, don’t. I’m worried you will end up believing him.

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Originally Posted by MrSmith

You sure are coming out with pish like that!

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As far as I understand , your premise is that COViD19 is a man made virus, that is targeting not only the older demographic by design, but for some reason also diminishing the power of unions ..

Firstly , unions have little power is the world economy today .. and the capitalists have little to gain by destroying the equity value across the globe as has happened ...

As people have mentioned China has no unions

Perhaps more rationally , there have been a range of severe respiratory diseases over the last decades and this evolution is supported by researchers and epidemiology experts around the world ..

Happy to look at this through a different lens, but your uncorroborated assertions are weak without you having any substance to offer against the worlds scientific eco-system ...

So..”bat” away so to speak and give us some rationale , rather than speculation