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Would they? Messi walked away from his national team before, and with the best will in the world, neither is going to win it. You could also round up all the quality players from countries that will likely never win silverware, like Haaland and co, what would they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
I’m not sure international football is that big a deal, might work on a few nationalities of players I guess.
If it does happen it would be over within 10 years. There’s only so long even the biggest clubs can go on playing in what would be a tourist league. It would really just be a case of how long non European tv crowds would remain interested in the same games every year without the competitive edge of a knockout competition.
So basically a European NFL or MLS. A franchise is guaranteed a place and sporting merit means nothing.
It's been on the cards for years. Good luck to them, will make no difference to my life.
It has a knockout element at the end and also a grand final game. It’s naive to think that they won’t be able to market a completion like that globally if they have the best players.Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
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A breakaway European Super League for the mega clubs would be the final nail in the coffin for the game of the past 150 years. Money would have won completely. It would also destroy the credibility of the remaining UEFA competitions.
What's the value of winning the Champions League when the best teams aren't involved?
What's the value of winning the EPL, La Liga etc when the best teams aren't involved?
I would not watch a single minute of it. A Harlem Globetrotters exhibition league, filled with the best players and teams, operating a cartel that is meaningless to all but a handful of massive names. It would be disastrous for the game.
Also it’s debatable whether they’d be able to enforce the international representation ban, would no doubt be challenged in European courts. Even the official statement says ‘could’ for that, much firmer on excluding the clubs from any other competition, which is probably more legally achievable.
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Serious dollars involved.
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£5 billion 😂 all right, cheerio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
EPL brings in more than £1bn a year so don’t see it as being that outrageous?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
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UEFA must do everything possible to block any such proposal. Tell the clubs it's a one way ticket: no return to the fold if it doesn't work.
From what I can see on social media the fans of the clubs involved are furious about the leaked plan as well. It's going to be 'tourist' driven. The fact the financial backers are a North American company says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
If football splits in 2 with a global elite of 20 or so clubs and 'the rest' I know where I would rather be. A total disregard for heritage, history and their own fanbases.
Cant believe Hearts aren't part of this. A mistake surely?
Who would be the broadcaster for this?
Why do people care?
Uefa and FIFA are corrupt to the core. All they care about is money. All the premier league care about is money. All the elite clubs care about is money. All the players and agents care about is money. None of this is exactly new. This certainly is going to be the death of football - football died along long time ago.
None of the above give a flying duck about us or other leagues our level. I couldn't give a flying duck about them. Let them do what they want, its going to have absolutely zero bearing on Hibernian or Scotland.
Finn Harps have made their statement 😁
Finn Harps wishes to confirm that the club has declined the invitation to compete in the proposed European Super League https://t.co/GMTpTa8azg
My mum's side of the family are in Manchester and are all United fans; a few are season ticket holders. I haven't spoken to any them today and will wait until there are concrete proposals. It will be a very sad moment for them, and me, if it happens. I have supported United all my life, but would have to wash my hands of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
It will collapse now.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
NFL is just the pro league in the states, college football is massive and generates a huge amount also and neither has relegation or promotion. It's just a money generator with punters wanting to watch the best teams every year come what may.
It will happen at some point. If the remaining clubs across Europe say fine off you go, but you're out domestically then there might be a re think or it may even fail longer term.
If UEFA bow to this as they have been doing, then it's just a stepping stone and will happen later down the line.
We may end up with 2 tier/ codes of football. Personally I would love a complete split because its stale now and is getting manipulated by the big teams. European football is massive even without the big 10-20 teams from 5 nations.
UEFA comps may even become less closed shops with multiple chances to suit the richest.
It would have consequences for the integrity of the entire sport. The pyramid system of rewarding achievement will be destroyed. The remaining UEFA competitions will be completely devalued, with the winners not being the best team. It will mean two competing governing bodies, with one representing just a handful of the biggest and richest clubs in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs
Hibs will never have the chance to maybe play one of those giants in European competition. Those dozen clubs are throwing their history out of the window; giving up everything they have achieved hitherto and starting over.
It's a disaster for the entire sport.
I disagree that it will have no bearing on Hibs but agree with the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs
Uefa have no god given right to a monopoly on organising competitions and with the level of corruption within it, it’s hard to feel sympathy for them.
It’s too late to stop this now, it will happen. Either quickly with a break away or over a few seasons under uefa.
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In their usual quiet, dignified fashion Hearts will have declined the invitation on ethical grounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Count
Agree with this. I'm against it in principle but Hibs and Scotland are my only real love in the football - the rest is window dressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antifa Hibs
The irony of FIFA and UEFA raging about this is the hilarious given how they have managed football in the last couple of decades.
If it happened (which immediately I doubt will) it will just be another television programme for me. I watch the EPL, Champions League, Bundesliga etc etc, Im a football nut and Im guessing it will just be something else to watch. It doesn't relate in any way to the team I support. Watching the Champions league now I enjoy a lot but doesnt impact or remotely have emotional pull that following Hibs does and that wouldnt change whether its a European Super League, A world league or a intergalactic super league. I'll still be a Hibs fan, still "hate" Hearts, still be sat here as I am now in my Hibs training top, drinking from my Hibs mug (about to be replaced with a wine glass), it wont really effect any of us that support non giant club teams. Our leagues could possibly attract lesser income from sponsorship I guess but in many leagues such as in Scotland that's relatively small anyway. As has been stated earlier it is immoral in respect of giving scant regard for the history and the integrity of the game, but sadly at the top table of football money has long been the dominating factor.
I'll watch the Champions league final, I'll watch EPL being won, but none of this compares to watching Hibs because its the team I support. Its about emotional attachment. The fans of those "Super" Clubs will never understand what winning the cup meant for Hibs in 2016, or Barrow getting back in football league after nearly 50 years absence, or Brora beating Hearts, Berwick beating Rangers, St Johnstone winning a cup, Blackpool getting to the Premier League, Fulham or Alaves getting to a Europa cup final etc etc etc.
I and many fans like me and you guys are much happier to support our teams, we might not be the best, but thats the point. To all of us whether you support Hibs, Hearts, Dunfermline, Partick Thistle, Blackpool, Leyton Orient, Shamrock Rovers, Elche et al its something deep inside almost a sense of belonging but to us our team is the best. Not neccessarily the best in the trophy cabinet but the best to us.
Sorry bit of a ramble and Ive not even opened the wine yet.
**** modern football and these super clubs
The thanks you get. The winners of World War one, saving Europe from eternal darkness, now excluded from a European super league.Quote:
Originally Posted by SideBurns
Gary Neville kicking off big time.
He’s spot on. So is Roy KeaneQuote:
Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
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Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
Well said both of them :top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Neville and Keane both spot on on this.
No fan of any club can actually want this pish