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10-04-2020, 01:19 PM
SouthMoroccoStu

Do we know when we’ll know the full results?
10-04-2020, 01:20 PM
DaveF

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Originally Posted by J.S

But they will...the whole club will.

They are serial whiners. Personally I'll take great pleasure in reminding any of them how ***** they have been.

If they go down then we must capitalise. I'm more concerned about that, than those fuds.
10-04-2020, 01:20 PM
SteveHFC

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6 minutes ago, Jamboelite said:Ross County based on their recent form and financial position will be voting yes.

I would like to think if we can prove clubs have been bullied into voting yes that this would strengthen a legal case.

Ultimately though we have been stitched up as have Partick.

Oh and **** Hibs and their ****house owner and CEO.

Budge better tell her to **** off on anything in future....which is good cause i hate this cosy cosy relationship.

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10-04-2020, 01:21 PM
Brightside

I'd hold off for now. There is no quote from Hibs in that report and the Evening News are hardly known for quality scoops.
10-04-2020, 01:25 PM
NAE NOOKIE

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

No danger reconstruction gets through. Teams aren’t going to vote to receive less money on the back of all this.

Probably not as things stand. It all depends on whether clubs were prepared to look again at how the TV and prize money is shared and how the fixtures were worked out.

If the pre split season was home and away that gives each club 26 fixtures ... then a split of 6/8 also played home and away. That gives the top 6 a total of 36 fixtures with a guaranteed 18 at home and the bottom 8 a total of 40 fixtures with a guarantee of 20 at home.

It guarantees the Ugly sisters and the TV folk their wished for 4 derby matches and to fix the possible unbalance of fixtures versus season ticket outlay for teams in the bottom 8 they could be required to charge no more than £10 a ticket for their last two home games.

As an aside ... that first set of home and away fixtures also does away with the unfair pre split schedule we currently have, which can only be a bonus.
10-04-2020, 01:31 PM
RoYO!

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Probably not as things stand. It all depends on whether clubs were prepared to look again at how the TV and prize money is shared and how the fixtures were worked out.

If the pre split season was home and away that gives each club 26 fixtures ... then a split of 6/8 also played home and away. That gives the top 6 a total of 36 fixtures with a guaranteed 18 at home and the bottom 8 a total of 40 fixtures with a guarantee of 20 at home.

It guarantees the Ugly sisters and the TV folk their wished for 4 derby matches and to fix the possible unbalance of fixtures versus season ticket outlay for teams in the bottom 8 they could be required to charge no more than £10 a ticket for their last two home games.

As an aside ... that first set of home and away fixtures also does away with the unfair pre split schedule we currently have, which can only be a bonus.

Yes, but with one glaring hole in the plan...

Hearts stay up.

It's a no from me!
10-04-2020, 01:33 PM
Hibeesmad

Hearts are going down. Celebrations imminent.
10-04-2020, 01:34 PM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Probably not as things stand. It all depends on whether clubs were prepared to look again at how the TV and prize money is shared and how the fixtures were worked out.

If the pre split season was home and away that gives each club 26 fixtures ... then a split of 6/8 also played home and away. That gives the top 6 a total of 36 fixtures with a guaranteed 18 at home and the bottom 8 a total of 40 fixtures with a guarantee of 20 at home.

It guarantees the Ugly sisters and the TV folk their wished for 4 derby matches and to fix the possible unbalance of fixtures versus season ticket outlay for teams in the bottom 8 they could be required to charge no more than £10 a ticket for their last two home games.

As an aside ... that first set of home and away fixtures also does away with the unfair pre split schedule we currently have, which can only be a bonus.

I think any vote on changing the way the prize money is divided up requires 11/12 clubs to vote for it so it’s a non starter.
10-04-2020, 01:36 PM
Gloucester Hibs

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Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Probably not as things stand. It all depends on whether clubs were prepared to look again at how the TV and prize money is shared and how the fixtures were worked out.

If the pre split season was home and away that gives each club 26 fixtures ... then a split of 6/8 also played home and away. That gives the top 6 a total of 36 fixtures with a guaranteed 18 at home and the bottom 8 a total of 40 fixtures with a guarantee of 20 at home.

It guarantees the Ugly sisters and the TV folk their wished for 4 derby matches and to fix the possible unbalance of fixtures versus season ticket outlay for teams in the bottom 8 they could be required to charge no more than £10 a ticket for their last two home games.

As an aside ... that first set of home and away fixtures also does away with the unfair pre split schedule we currently have, which can only be a bonus.

That actually sounds quite good but as you say would involve PL clubs taking a hit with regards the new TV deal (more clubs = share of the pot gets diluted) so I can't see it coming to pass. Also it keeps Hearts up so it's a no from me!
10-04-2020, 01:40 PM
Hibeesmad

What time is announcement?
10-04-2020, 01:42 PM
MWHIBBIES

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Thought Budge hadn’t put them on sale yet?[emoji6]

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I am anything but one of them, joke or not.

I'm actually glad you've found something else to moan about since there is unlikely to be any transfers.

Hopefully you'll think twice before believing daft red tops in future as it seems we have voted yes. Get your season ticket bought.
10-04-2020, 01:43 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by Hibeesmad

What time is announcement?

A few hours after the time of death of the Lord Jesus.
10-04-2020, 01:44 PM
Rumble de Thump

Whatever happens Hearts fans will still have a fantastic Edinburgh-based premier league team they can choose to support.
10-04-2020, 01:45 PM
The Baldmans Comb

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Originally Posted by underscore

I'd hold off for now. There is no quote from Hibs in that report and the Evening News are hardly known for quality scoops.

The Evening News is Hibs "go to" paper.

Rather than make it known officialy about any particular issues Hibs feed certain stories to the EEN under a nod and a wink basis.

That gets stories out in the public domain without Hibs being compromised in any way.

Its all very cosy and has been for years and in return for wee scoops the EEN is never particularly critical of the way the club is run knowing they will get access and stories denied if they get too critical.

If the EEN say Hibs are voting yes then you can be 100% certain Hibs are voting yes.
10-04-2020, 01:47 PM
Tug Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE

Probably not as things stand. It all depends on whether clubs were prepared to look again at how the TV and prize money is shared and how the fixtures were worked out.

If the pre split season was home and away that gives each club 26 fixtures ... then a split of 6/8 also played home and away. That gives the top 6 a total of 36 fixtures with a guaranteed 18 at home and the bottom 8 a total of 40 fixtures with a guarantee of 20 at home.

It guarantees the Ugly sisters and the TV folk their wished for 4 derby matches and to fix the possible unbalance of fixtures versus season ticket outlay for teams in the bottom 8 they could be required to charge no more than £10 a ticket for their last two home games.

As an aside ... that first set of home and away fixtures also does away with the unfair pre split schedule we currently have, which can only be a bonus.

This is where we disagree.

Reconstruction to save relegated clubs this season at the expense of relegating more next season is a false economy.

Try to start the season 20/21 as usual and put permanent reconstruction on the table if it is deemed beneficial.

One off sops to clubs unlucky enough to be in the relegation places are not the answer.
10-04-2020, 01:50 PM
Ozyhibby

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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES

I am anything but one of them, joke or not.

I'm actually glad you've found something else to moan about since there is unlikely to be any transfers.

Hopefully you'll think twice before believing daft red tops in future as it seems we have voted yes. Get your season ticket bought.

I think you’ll find I repeatedly said that I do not believe Hibs would be so stupid as to vote against the SPFL proposal. It looks like I was right.

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10-04-2020, 01:50 PM
Aldo

I’m not going to get too excited just yet. Someone says one thing, someone says another.

Will wait until it’s official

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10-04-2020, 01:55 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Aldo

I’m not going to get too excited just yet. Someone says one thing, someone says another.

Will wait until it’s official

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Probably wise. Roy MacGregor is a very wealthy individual so if there's one club apart from Celtc that doesn't need the cash asap, it's probably County. He's also pretty independent minded and not scared to stand up to the SPFL. It was him that effectively torpedoed the last reconstruction attempt, wasn't it?
10-04-2020, 02:01 PM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Probably wise. Roy MacGregor is a very wealthy individual so if there's one club apart from Celtc that doesn't need the cash asap, it's probably County. He's also pretty independent minded and not scared to stand up to the SPFL. It was him that effectively torpedoed the last reconstruction attempt, wasn't it?

Don’t know much about him tbh but I do know that they could possibly still be relegated (or play off ) and whilst the chances are slim he will have one eye on retaining a SPFL place.

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10-04-2020, 02:02 PM
The 90+2

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Probably wise. Roy MacGregor is a very wealthy individual so if there's one club apart from Celtc that doesn't need the cash asap, it's probably County. He's also pretty independent minded and not scared to stand up to the SPFL. It was him that effectively torpedoed the last reconstruction attempt, wasn't it?

There’s nothing at all in it in the best interests for RC to vote against this.
10-04-2020, 02:07 PM
JeMeSouviens

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Originally Posted by Aldo

Don’t know much about him tbh but I do know that they could possibly still be relegated (or play off ) and whilst the chances are slim he will have one eye on retaining a SPFL place.

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You would think so. Just not wanting to count my chickens before Hearts have egg all over their faces. :wink:
10-04-2020, 02:11 PM
Aldo

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

You would think so. Just not wanting to count my chickens before Hearts have egg all over their faces. :wink:

Yup that’s where I am. It’s not over till it’s over as they say!

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10-04-2020, 02:13 PM
oneone73

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Originally Posted by underscore

I'd hold off for now. There is no quote from Hibs in that report and the Evening News are hardly known for quality scoops.

Yes they are.
10-04-2020, 02:13 PM
Bostonhibby

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Originally Posted by Aldo

Yup that’s where I am. It’s not over till it’s over as they say!

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Yep, in the words of the famous saying, it's not over till the old lady whines.

Or words to that effect.

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10-04-2020, 02:21 PM
Aldo

So Keith Jackson reported we will vote No yet at 1332 the wind of change has us voting Yes.

Stirring the proverbial o and I love the way Newco are calling stating that the SPFL are using bully boy tactics because they can’t get their own way.

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10-04-2020, 02:36 PM
matty_f

Sky Sports reporting that it's likely the resolution will fail.
10-04-2020, 02:43 PM
StevieC

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Originally Posted by 90+2

A few hours after the time of death of the Lord Jesus.

For a second I thought we were going to have to wait till Christmas.

Is it the time of his first death or the one after he woke up and wandered about for a bit?
10-04-2020, 02:46 PM
Greenworld

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Sky Sports reporting that it's likely the resolution will fail.

Read the report Matty I don't think they know one way or the other basically saying the championship clubs dundee and Inverness might vote against

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10-04-2020, 02:49 PM
The Harp Awakes

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Originally Posted by matty_f

Sky Sports reporting that it's likely the resolution will fail.

Looks like it due to the Championship clubs and maybe also Leagues 1 and 2 not getting to the 75%.

Will probably just mean another vote on the same motion further down the line at a time when UEFA acknowledges fixtures can't be completed. The vote will then carry as clubs will be stuffed for cash even more by then.
10-04-2020, 02:54 PM
Pretty Boy

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

I think any vote on changing the way the prize money is divided up requires 11/12 clubs to vote for it so it’s a non starter.

It does. Rangers and Celtic usually vote together so they essentially have a veto on anything that doesn't suit them

There was a motion put forward to change the 11/12 requirement when Rangers were out the league. Aberdeen voted it down along with Celtic.

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