Got a call from my Celtic supporting stepfather earlier, saying he'd heard they're interested in Rocky! Anyone else heard anything about this?
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Got a call from my Celtic supporting stepfather earlier, saying he'd heard they're interested in Rocky! Anyone else heard anything about this?
I'm on this train 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
When are you ever going to have had 18 months across 2 loans to assess a player, see him get international call ups, make Team of the Season AND his club will sell?
This is the one to push the boat out for
I’d be astonished if trueQuote:
Originally Posted by pogo
Given his performances at Parkhead I’d be surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by pogo
That's what I thought, but he and his mate seemed quite sure of it. Hopefully just the afternoon pints talking!Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
No way he's going to Celtic. Not good enough on the ball for them. They will be aiming for higher quality as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by pogo
So would be happy to swap Liam Scales for Rocky?Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
Get him on a 4 year deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Year 1: hibs struggle to balance Europe and the league. Finish outside top four. Clubs reluctant to match our asking price.
Year 2: hibs perform better in the league. Perhaps finish third or 4th without the burden of European football. Clubs reluctant to match our asking price.
Year 3: hibs perform poorly in Europe (natch). Similar struggles in league. Clubs aware player wants away. Make offers in and around 1m to test our resolve before player goes into final year of contract.
You do hypothetical. So do I. Mine is more realistic.
I'm happy if we pay 1.5m. But you are buying him for the years of his contract. You are not buying a guaranteed profit.
I don’t disagree. It’s entirely possible and currently looks like a great opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
My initial point is that it’s not a guarantee and can’t be the sole reason to do it. If he does nothing we would have to be prepared to write off £1.5m. That’s a lot of money at any time, let alone for a team that has lost millions on terrible recruitment the last 3/4 years alone.
OK then, let's not bother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson
Overlook a player who has already adjusted to Scottish Football at our club and appears to be coveted by many other clubs. And one who was one of the four players nominated for player of the year in Scotland.
He was probably the most improved and consistent defenders in the league last season . I wouldn’t rate Scales ahead of him either and it wouldn’t be the first time that Celtic take a player coming out of contract/ free agent from another team in our league for their squad . Hopefully there’s nothing in it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
In an optimistic mood tonight [emoji2957]Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson
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Rocky to Celtic wouldn’t actually surprise me massively as a Carter Vickers back up
Scales is someone everyone thought had no chance
Trusty they spent a fortune on and doesn’t seem great. Nawrocky (maybe a future nickname if Rocky goes to Celtic?) hardly gets a sniff.
But whenever Carter Vickers is missing they look considerably weaker and really miss his strength and overall athleticism
There is rumoured interest in Carter VickersQuote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Tbf that’s not what was said, the poster was advocating that we sign Triantis, it was the guaranteed profit he disagreed with. I absolutely want us to sign him and break our transfer record in doing so (as that is what it will take.) If we do and he progresses as we all hope/expect then yes we could expect to make a big profit on him. It’s not a guarantee though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
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Originally Posted by GloryGlory
I meant the deal with Al-Faisaly
Is anyone here aware of any kind of guarantee in football when signing players. I certainly never said guarantee in my scenario.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I'm fully aware that signing Triantis constitutes a risk. If it's £1.5m, I expect it will probably have international caps/Hibs appearances/etc built in. Plus we have an owner who has already written off £7m on the last accounts (albeit a fair chunk of it was his responsibility recruiting poor players and inept managers).
Triantis was at the heart of everything good which Hibs did in the last 6 months last season. Two thirds of his fee can be garnered from the money obtained for Vente.
The new signings model for the last year seems to have worked. So if Hibs are interested in signing Triantis, whatever the fee, I back them. If we sign him for £1.5m and he gets injured in his first game, is out for a year or so and never recaptures his form. That's football.
It's all a risk.
No chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
Absolute nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by pogo
There have been a number of current players on social media Andy Halliday being one who have been praising Triantis's performances so if he is impressing other pros that says a lot. If he adds a few more goals to his game we have a gem if we can get himQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
Just catching up on today’s stuff. I’m surprised to see a few people suggesting we can’t or shouldn’t be stretching to 1.5m for Triantis. Its a no brainer for me. And we’ll make a healthy profit on that as well. No doubts. And I’m sure the Board will fully back the manager to make it happen. He’d be an incredible signing - but we’d maybe only get one season of him as a permanent Hibs player.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
Did you watch Triantis last season? How can you not think we won’t make our money back - and then some - on him? You’ve mentioned the likes of Vente and Melkersen. Triantis can’t be compared in any way to those signings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
Attacking contribution was actually pretty good last season, three goals and six assists for someone who is predominantly a defensive midfielder is decent. Especially when none of the assists are coming from taking set pieces. Definitely has the ability to improve though. That’s why I’m desperate to get him back, you’re talking about someone who we know can play as it is but who still has so much room to improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbhibby
Watching the analysis on Sportscene and other shows, highlighted that he doesn't always play the easy sideways pass and will try to pass through the lines so adding something different. Wouldn't be offering a sell on clause as part of the deal as he has been developed at our team. A Celtic fan I know said that their 10 million midfielder is a poor man's Triantis.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
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There should be an assist of the season award and for me it would have been Triantis' ball through the middle to tee up Campbell's 1st v Celtic when I and everyone else was screaming for him to play it wide to Nicky Cadden. Obita's low hook to Boyle at Ibrox is runner up.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Triantis’ pass for Bowie at Tannadice the best one for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Nicky Cadden might no be happy with this conversation right enough.
His through ball to Boyle at Pittodrie wasn't bad eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by 007
That's not trueQuote:
Originally Posted by pogo
I think we certainly can make our money back, he's a fantastic player. But lets flip the thinking on it for just a second, he's now available for lets say an asking price of £1.5m after a standout break through season here. He's 22 so is a fantastic age for a lot of these clubs to take a punt on now, and as others have said there's a World Cup next summer to inflate his value potentially.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Why are we so sure that there will be a massive line of clubs waiting to take him from us for double that price in 12/24 months, if they perhaps aren't already there in this window?
As others have said it's a risk and the club will have to weigh up how much risk it's willing to take on. If the club are absolutely certain that at the very least they can get him tied down on a 5 year deal and have a great player for Hibs for 5 years and maybe beyond to help us reach our goals in that time then that's probably worth £1.5m on its own. But if the club are looking at it with the end goal of being flipping him for profit then there's a lot to consider and weigh up.
I think to realistically get to the next level and be the dominant 3rd placed team we need to start paying fees of this level. We can't keep walking away when it gets above 1 million. You can obviously still get quality for less but it's considerably harder. I also know that spending more doesn't guarantee success but I think in the Triantis case it's about as safe as a transfer can get for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf