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Shows what I know hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Got Farooq a couple up. The point deduction could play a huge part.
I've got Farooq by a couple too, work rate, constant pressure and more clean shots
Farooq by 1 for me
****ing no chance, last card was a total joke, MTK have backed their golden boy on that one, shocker
That's a shocker.
McGregor by 4, taking into account the points deduction, is mental. Either way by 1 or 2 at the very most.
Wow! That last card was mental!
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Not surprising. Fair few radges in the McGregor crowd :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
Never a 4 round difference. One either way I could understand as was close.
I had farooq by 2.. no way did he lose that fight.. a rematch would be great..
What a ****ing joke of a decision
Decision was always going to be for mtk man on an mtk event. Farooq by a couple outclassed him even with height and weight difference
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Kash won that fight by about 3 rounds. Absolutely no danger McGregor won that fight let alone by 3 rounds according to one card. Forgetting the Edinburgh v Glasgow rivalry that's a shocker.
MTK have invested in McGregror and that's the reason he won. If he steps up to world level he gets stopped, he's too easy to hit and his footwork is poor.
Didn’t use the advantage in height at all, kept coming down low making it easier for kash to land big shots very rarely used his jab played into the hands of kash far too easily imo a great fight to watch but both fighters as they are now will get hurt at world level very rawQuote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
Aye, seen a couple of his fights and loved them, big prospect. However he attracts the ‘Gorgie Rules’ crowd who are utter fannies. When it comes to Edinburgh boxers (and Scottish) I support them all but Lee’s following are putting me right off him I’m afraid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy
Not seen this fight yet as in Cyprus for the football but have Sky Plussed so looking forward to watching....and scoring it when I get home.
I was impressed by Farooq, McGregor looked like he lacked a lot of talent.
Just watched the fight and scored it 116-115 to McGregor. Lee won the10th for me so scored it 9-9. Lots of close rounds though, in fact most of them could easily have gone either way. What I will say though, the commentary was VERY pro Farooq which can sway how the audience perceives it. Even the pre fight chat was almost all about Kash. Great fight though and whilst I think Kash is the more talented boxer, Lee seems bigger at the weight and is more of a fighter. Hopefully any re-match is a couple of years down the line in front of a full Hydro for a World strap.
Doubt a world strap for Lee. He'll will have to move up and they boys hit a lot harder than someone 5 inches and a stone lighter. Poor footwork and wild swings even if he stays down someone like inoue or seriously hurts him
Money says he's back in 2020....
Probably splurged all his money on pish again, if he's back then he won't be fighting anyone who has a chance of beating him that's for sure, that 0 is too important to himQuote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
That's why Wilder can't be written off.
You would struggle to make a case for him winning a single round in that fight and then he unleashes a savage right hand and it's all over
That exactly what happened, I was watching it and he never won a single round then boom, you can say what you want about his boxing ability and the opponents he's faced but that right hand is scary asQuote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Ruiz or Joshua?
it's an interesting one, did AJ just have an off night?, did he overlook him?, is Ruiz style and height just all wrong for him, I genuinely don't know which one it is, that's why I'm more interested in the rematch than I probably should beQuote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
Ruiz is by far the more technically gifted of the two but AJ's power can stop anyone, I think Ruiz concussed him in the first fight so don't take too much from what happened after that
I'm actually looking forward to it which is something I didn't think I'd be feeling about the fight to be honest
I think if AJ sticks to his plan up to knocking down Ruiz, he will win. He got greedy and wanted to finish him off and Ruiz’s quick hands cost him. He was winning comfortably sitting behind the jab. And he’ll be more mobile this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
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There's a few rumours doing the rounds that Joshua was hurt/knocked down again in training in the last couple of weeks. I'm sceptical and I think it's just a bit mischief making after what allegedly happened last time. I believe he's been doing a lot of sparring with Chisora so it wouldn't shock me if it's Haye doing a bit of stirring with half an eye on a future fight (with Chisora not Haye obviously).
Joshua looks in far better shape this time around. I think it will be a tough night for him but I fancy him to nick it.
Would love to see AJ do it. Backing him for a late KO
I’m not convinced by that. AJ has missed out on a boxing apprenticeship and he’s basically learning on the job. He’s been exciting to watch at times, but never fully convincing. His lack of tactical nous in a fight was badly exposed by Ruiz in the last fight and more worryingly his lack of heart. The way he walked away from the referee and back to his corner is a major worry for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
For me this fight centres around how much Ruiz wants it. I remember staying up to watch Buster Douglas fighting Tyson. Douglas never got the credit he deserved for that fight, he had the mobility of a middleweight fighter that night. The next fight Douglas was hopeless and just took the money. If Ruiz is taking this seriously AJ will have a fight on his hands. From a betting point of view Ruiz is the the value.
For anyone not old enough to remember how dominant mike Tyson was I urge you to watch this video. What Buster Douglas achieved that night will probably never be repeated. He was truly amazing.
https://youtu.be/0IK4ADQIuEM
He took the defeat too well. Too much smiling and laughing in the ring after words and no real complaint when the ref waved it off.. Same in the build up this time, he doesn’t have the ‘eye of the tiger’’. Ruiz is a genuinely nice guy. I don’t think he needs to get nasty but AJ, does. I agree that a lot depends on how Ruiz has prepared but I don’t think he’ll do a Buster Douglas. Going to be an interesting night, nobody knows for sure what’ll happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
Ruiz to win by KO.
I think the change of opponent in the last fight is being underplayed here. IMO it had a massive affect on the outcome of the fight. Miller was a 300 pound + brawler who does his best work inside and up close, Ruiz a fast handed counterpuncher. It’s no surprise AJ looked sluggish, he was preparing for a 300lb beast leaning on him for 12 rounds.
Make no mistake, since that night at MSG in May, AJ & Rob Mcracken will have had their sights solely on Ruiz, and will have been preparing accordingly.
I’ve seen it mentioned on this thread that AJ had little or no boxing education - well he managed to grab an Olympic Gold medal and Unify world titles with that limited education.
I fully expect to see the best AJ on Saturday. Buzzing for it now.
Decent documentary on BBC - Joshua Ruiz - One night. Tyson and Stallone are really good onnit.
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I like watching boxing but don’t really know that much about it if I am honest.
However, I do know he took a battering in the first fight. I was listening to a podcast with Tyson Fury last week who made the point that people forget AJ was losing the fight when it was stopped.
People reference Lennox Lewis as someone who came back from a loss to win (Oliver McCall was it?) but he was actually winning the 1st fight when he was hit by the vital punch.
AJ wasn’t and Fury reckons that Ruiz will win again.
Joshua by KO for me
1 punch changed the fight. Same reason fury will need to be wary of wilder again. If AJ stays composed and doesn’t get greedy after he knocked Ruiz down, he’d have won comfortably. He let Ruiz get in close and that temple shot was shuddering.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
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Just saw the latest pictures of Joshua and he looks in incredible shape. Far more of a boxing physique this time around.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...dy-ruiz-boxing
Some epic crawling from Hearn here.
“I can’t tell you how honoured I am to be in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. We were very close to going to Wales, then I got a message from Prince Khalid. I told him: ‘Don’t waste our time.’ But the passion this man had to bring the fight here was undeniable."
He certainly has a lot of passion.
As much as I think it would be funny if Joshua lost again, for future fight making its probably better if he wins.
Costello and bunce were astounded by his admission that he expects to come in under 17st today meaning he’ll be 10lbs lighter than the summer fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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Ruiz over 3st heavier.
Just saw Joshua at the weigh in, almost looks a different person with the weight loss!
2/1 or better the guy that won the last time looks like a bet for me.
Just under 17st.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Ruiz about 20st FFS. 😂
I like what Joshua is saying and I like how he looks. I can’t get away from the Buster Douglas scenario with Ruiz. I know Ruiz was a late replacement last time, but I thought he might have come in a bit fitter this time given that he’s got so much to lose in this fight. I know he’s never been remotely fit, but come on he’s the heavyweight champion of the world. Joshua just needs to keep him at range and Ruiz will be out on his feet in the latter part of the fight. Joshua KO in the later rounds for me.
A few people suggesting Ruiz may have fiddled his weight. To the eye he apparently looked leaner, relatively speaking, than the last fight yet weighed in at a career high. There's a suggestion he was wearing heavy soled shoes and was carrying small weights in his pockets and hat. One commentator suggested he could be as much as 10-12lbs lighter than his official weight.
Interesting mind game if it is the case. I wonder how that plays with regards to the rules?
Yeh I read that last night. All seems a bit ‘horse shoes in the gloves’ to me. He was looking leaner though and I was shocked he came in so heavy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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Originally Posted by 3pm
I predicted AJ to win by a late KO a few weeks ago but starting to think Ruiz might do it again. Unsure why, just got a feeling.
It’s going to be a great fight as heavyweight boxing always is.
Come on AJ.
Showtime
The proper MC too. I hate the guy with the dreadlocks for some reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
it's not too late to pull out Andy
He looks like Ibrahimovic :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by 90+2
Riuz is horribly out of shape.
1st round to AJ
Excellent start by AJ.
The state of Ruiz is a disgrace. Fat wobbling all over the shop.
Both fighters cut.
they pylons making it impossible for some to see, i thought this was a purpose built structure, was it the same builders that built parkhead
Ruiz coming back into it a bit, but AJ still controlling it at distance.
It's essentially a pop-up venue.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Atmosphere is grim.
AJ looking very confident now. I’d like to see him finish Ruiz inside the distance.
Good round from Ruiz, he trying to draw AJ into a war.
AJ at least 6 rounds up but it’s getting worrying now
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5-3 for me so far. AJ getting drawn in
AJ ahead but Ruiz isnt out of this - one punch from Ruiz could change this completely
Think Ruiz will really go for it now - needs a ko
Never noticed that before :greengrin AJ has pissed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
He won’t get near Joshua.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
What’s the noise that keeps going off in the background? I thought it was gunfire at first.
It's to show the fighters there is 10 seconds left of the round unless you mean something elseQuote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
It’s the 10 seconds left indicator.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Walk in the park for Joshua this time around, did what he needed to do in the first fight.
Masterclass in keeping a dangerous puncher at range
That’s what he should have done first time. Superb
Really impressive from Joshua. Boxed beautifully and he was clearly in amazing condition, looked fresh as a daisy in the later rounds. I was never worried at all, I would have given Ruiz 2 rounds max and seems the judges agreed.
Hopefully Ruiz disappears back into obscurity. Opportunity of a lifetime and he turned up at his camp a month late then pitched up for the fight in disgraceful condition. Has come across as a total fandan the last few days as well.
Agree 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
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Joshua won every round in my opioion Ruiz showed up for a pay day.
A 12 round masterclass from Joshua in avoiding getting involved in a fight.
Thank goodness I didn't ppv to watch that.
Never mind the shameful fact it was in Saudi.....
Sure it was a boxing match.
Joshua went 12 rounds avoiding getting involved in a boxing match.
Don’t get the hype personally.
Wilder or Fury would destroy him.
There's fighting and there's boxing. Joshua boxed clever against a dangerous opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianmc
Boxing is about far more than standing in front of an opponent and going toe to toe. AJ showed skill that his opponent couldn’t contend with and won with ease. You’re last sentence might be true and I hope we get to find out in the near future. Fury for me is the best, but he fights very similar to the style you criticise AJ for using tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
You’re joking [emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
That’s how fury has made a career [emoji23][emoji23]
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Wilder was getting beaten in his last fight until he had a huge right hand land, if he cant do that in a fight he isnt winning, joshua lost the weight intentionally this time so he could move about that ring all night and have no worries, you probably wont seem that light again for a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
had a feeling after a couple of rounds it would be aj on points ( my feeling ) or ruiz would get a ko somehow.
AJ kinda reminded me a lil of lennox lewis in a way,,kinda jab jab jab kinda thing and if the other guy got in close tie them up.
For some reason im not warming to aj,just i guess i like it to be an all out war kinda fight,though i can understand this prob is not aj style/strength..which is fair enough in a way.cos after all boxing is a dangourous sport
House of Saud sportwashing their abuse of human rights, and not a word said from Joshua or his opponent . An absolute disgrace.
Why would he, he is a sportsman there to do a job, criticise the country and bangs goes your £60m cheque.Quote:
Originally Posted by Betty Boop
Joshua's a very good boxer and I'm glad he won comfortably. I hope he gets a fight with Fury and knocks him out. Fury's always been a loudmouth, unlike others on here I've got no time for him. Don't hate the guy, just want Joshua to beat him. Just my opinion.
What a fatty that Ruiz! One can only imagine what the likes of Ali or Foreman would have done to him.
I wonder how many people would have the same principles, if £60m pounds were waived under their noses?
Its very easy to have these principles, when you will never be given the choice.
Joshua boxed well, did the job he went there to do, and now gets the belts back and a chance to fight Wilder and Fury for even more money than he could ever imagine.
He’d get paid that, or close to it, wherever he fought. If I had the option to earn my current salary or a bit more over there, I’d have the same principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Just watched a leak of the SPOTY boxing VT for tonight’s show. All about KSI and the heavyweights. No mention of Josh. Surely there will be more tonight......
Looks like they added a bit in after Josh’s tweet lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob
Mikey Garcia just signed with Hearn. Potential for some big match ups there, Taylor, Campbell, Haney, Loma etc
Potential for 2 or 3 years of fighthing dross on ppv as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicSwirlingShip
Kash Farooq signs for Fast Eddie at Matchroom.
Wilder v Fury 2 announced for Feb 22nd in Vegas
Josh signed with Top Rank. Expect fights in America soon!
Makes sense, he's guaranteed the undisputed fight now and if he wins that then there is a shot at Crawford, be interesting to see who he gets as a new trainerQuote:
Originally Posted by Frazerbob