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They took gambles, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Thats football. McInnes is a steady manager, you know what you are getting, probably a top half finish, maybe sneak 4, aint winning a cup, as can be seen by his record, and his football isnt particularly nice to watch. There is a reason that no one hired him after such an apparently fantastic time at Aberdeen? He had to drop to the championshio and take the Killie job?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
This is why football fans are never happy. That’s clearly the record of a manager that’s done his job really well. Still seen as not good enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Surely a Hibs fan can see the merit in achieving a finish there or thereabouts where the level of budget should have them. We’ve had countless seasons (more often than not probably)where we’ve come well below where we should based on budget level.
At non old firm level in Scotland, budget level has never been anything like a guarantee of relative success.
There's so much wrong with that, it's not worth the time even talking about it with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
If only we could meet or exceed expectations near enough every season. Although that would absolutely not be excellent at all now, would it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
There is absolutely no chance McInnes leaves a club that he’s got on the verge of European group stages for a club that has twice in three seasons twice sacked a manager in the same season. Or has people who don’t know what they’re doing signing absolute no hopers because their stats are good.
We may as well debate why we’ve not signed Haaland.
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Of the four cup finals he reached with Aberdeen three were against Celtic so hardly a stick to beat him with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
I'd be delighted to 'know what I'm getting' with a manager if it meant consistent 2nd, 3rd and 4th place finishes, a level of consistency Hibs haven't managed for 50 years. Bearing in mind Hibs have been churning out some of the worst football I've ever watched them play in recent years I think I could also live quite comfortably with McInnes's supposedly 'unattractive' style.
Dont be silly, it's much more exciting watching a good relegation battle, or a 3rd place finish in the championship. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Ah right, il remember that if we get beat on Sunday, and you start posting that we will are getting relegated again.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
He was in a relegation battle more recently than any of our managers........Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I'm not sure I understand your point but for what it's worth it's not a question of 'if' we get beat on Sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
We dont keep a manager long enough for that to happen, although give it time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
And you know fine well the circumstances why he kept Killie up, then got a team with half our resources into Europe.
I dream of a manager who has Hibs punching its weight, but no you want some mythical manager who's going to have us playing like Brazil, finishing 1st as 2nd is not good enough because some sheite teams were not in the league at the time, and all done with a punt from a manager who's done absolutely nothing to date but ticks a few boxes.
The consistency is what is impressive. Pretty much an unprecedented run in recent decades you've described there for a non-OF team and still running it down :greengrin He also re-built teams during that time after losing players. I would love for us to have a manager that can stay for 5-6 years building something like that. And there he has gone in and done an excellent job at Killi.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
There are no guarantees that budget means this is where you should finish. You have to go and do it. And still my number one choice all day long for the last 3/4 appointments. He had our number tactically so much during a period, dirty yes but in the end you can't fail to be impressed really.
Absolutely :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
So much wrong with that, i dont even know where to start......no point in discussing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I see his Aberdeen side amassed 70+ points, 4 seasons in a row when achieving 2nd which again just shows how impressive the consistency was. Not really sure how this is even a debate to be honest. Not saying he’s Pep Guardiola but in Scottish football very few have achieved what he hasQuote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
Difficult to argue with that to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
Enough said…. https://youtu.be/gQCR392YQ_A
It's much better to just have a stab in the dark, look how impressive we've been doing that. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee
wish i had watched that one
Ajax beat Panathinaikos 13-12 on penalties after an epic shootout featuring 34 spot-kicks to reach the Europa League qualifying play-off round.
Goalkeeper Remko Pasveer, 40, saved five penalties and scored one, while defender Anton Gaaei scored the winning kick for Ajax.
The Dutch side won despite the Netherlands striker Brian Brobbey missing two spot-kicks, with Bertrand Traore and Youri Baas also off target.
Manager Francesco Farioli said the shootout, which lasted 25 minutes in total, was "incredible".
It is the second-biggest penalty shootout score in a European competition, narrowly behind Glentoran's 14-13 defeat by Gzira United in Conference League qualifying last season.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXltEwmFgdIQuote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycGaYYZhLzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNNQ3tqYkqM
My cocks bigger than yours.
Well not sure I want to click those links 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I wouldn’t if I were you, someone taking a bit of a bummingQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
I may go watch Killie get humped in Copenhagen now 😁
:faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
McInnes didn't punch his weight with Aberdeen 4 out of 8 seasons. Finished behind Motherwell twice, Kilmarnock and us. His cup record should have been better.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
A first cup win for Aberdeen in 19 years, reached four finals and eight semi-finals. Finished 3rd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 4th, 4th, 4th. Qualified for Europe every season he was there. He's also taken St Johnstone and Kilmarnock back up to the top flight at the first time of asking, with St Johnstone finishing comfortably above Hibs in their first season back up and Killie now in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Yet this guy isn't deemed good enough by some for Hibs despite the fact we haven't come even close to matching the consistency McInnes produced at Aberdeen since the early 1970s. We haven't finished in the top four in consecutive seasons for 20 years.
You are wasting your time. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Probably more top 4 finishes in his time than I’ve seen Hibs have in my lifetime.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Ah but the football was sheite compared to our free flowing beautiful style. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee