Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Originally Posted by MikeyS

I would argue that GOC playing in Russia & The Prem was definitely a step up in his career, no denying it didbt end the way it should've but he did flourish after leaving us.

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GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.

Steven Fletcher too ^


Surprised if we let Slivka go. Good squad player, and especially surprised as we are so light in that area.

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Originally Posted by frazeHFC

Steven Fletcher too ^


Surprised if we let Slivka go. Good squad player, and especially surprised as we are so light in that area.

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Yup me too. Slivka is a stong athletic type. Our midfield options look very lightweight to me at the moment.

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Originally Posted by hibbiemacfie

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.

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I think you are right re the North stand but I think the South Stand situation is different. It may be the same shape(cheap option of not drawing up a new set of plans but does the club not actually own the roadway up to th back of the East so could theoretically do a full height i fill where the TV trucks park? Add that to linked up North East and you probably add 3000 seats.

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Originally Posted by hibee316

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.

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Hampden has underground access

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Originally Posted by Since452

Yup me too. Slivka is a stong athletic type. Our midfield options look very lightweight to me at the moment.

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He rarely plays that way though.

We need at least one defensive minded midfielder in the squad and preferably two. There is a vacancy to sign one and the other could be Stirling or a new player, in which case Slivka may move on to make room.

I'll miss him for his cracking goals against the Ugly Sisters but after two years I wish I'd seen more of those moments. I haven't because he hasn't earned the playing time.

Dabrowski has went on loan to Cowdenbeath for the season

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Originally Posted by The young one

Dabrowski has went on loan to Cowdenbeath for the season

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Good move for him, heard a lot about him.

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Originally Posted by Greencore

Good move for him, heard a lot about him.

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I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

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Originally Posted by The young one

I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

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I think he’ll develop tremendously in League 2. Proper competitive games every week with crosses flying in on top of him from every angle. Seems a good move.

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Originally Posted by The young one

I can’t say I agree, yes he’ll get first team football but I can’t imagine he will develop much in league 2. Bright side is he’ll still be training with us

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Porto did well for Edinburgh City in league 2.

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Originally Posted by Greencore

Porto did well for Edinburgh City in league 2.

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It can be a great place to cut your teeth. I don't really subscribe to the need of being booted by older players like the old days etc but I think for a Defender and Goalkeeper it can be really beneficial playing against the more experienced guys who have maybe lost their legs. Porteous could keep up with someone like David Goodwillie physically but his experience of finding space and how to track his movement would be the one that would educate him.

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

He rarely plays that way though.

We need at least one defensive minded midfielder in the squad and preferably two. There is a vacancy to sign one and the other could be Stirling or a new player, in which case Slivka may move on to make room.

I'll miss him for his cracking goals against the Ugly Sisters but after two years I wish I'd seen more of those moments. I haven't because he hasn't earned the playing time.

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I can't decide about slivka. He's no hard tackling midfielder but compared to Mallen he can at least tackle. We need proper balanced midfield but last season we were ***** in the middle.

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Originally Posted by sauzee=legend

Pretty sure he had a contract offer from them, the dundee offered him a trial so hasn’t signed anything with cove yet.
But haven’t read anywhere about how his dundee trial went.

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I thought he'd signed. Cheers for clearing up!

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Originally Posted by Centre Hawf

GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.

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That's a fair list, another one that I'd grudgingly add is Paul Hartley

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Originally Posted by DetroitHibs

That's a fair list, another one that I'd grudgingly add is Paul Hartley

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Yeah sadly he turned into the type player we actually missed for a while when he was at his peak with Hearts.

As someone else mentioned Steven Fletcher has gone on to do very well, some might even say better than perhaps his spell at Hibs initially suggested?

McGinn is on track to do very well as it stands.

David Murphy carved out a solid career post Hibs and even won a League Cup, just a shame injuries put an end to it early.

Sol Bamba has done well and was a standout for Cardiff last year.

Stokes (when he left to go to Celtic) achieved a fair bit.

Ricardo Vaz Te, done well for West Ham and even got them promoted.

Steven Dobbie is probably one of the surprising names that could be added to the list, multiple promotions.

Ivan Sproule did very well at Bristol city. Colin Noah went to be very successful in the hit tv show as Mr Tumble.

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Originally Posted by Centre Hawf

GOC made daft choices in his life that effected the tail end of his career but he certainly achieved more than some other young prospects did and a Russian Cup is no mean feat, and although it was probably financial reasons why he chose to go there in the first place it was a brave move all the same. Compare it to Deeks career away from us it's night and day who had the better time of it.

I'd say those that had better/good careers away from us were:
Brown
Griffiths
Thomson
Whittaker
Caldwell


Those are just off the top of my head.

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Collins too

Des Bremner went on to lift the European Cup after leaving us! As did Ronnie Simpson

If you start mentioning all the dregs that left us and went down hill...... Let’s just say it can be pretty depressing reading

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Originally Posted by LancsHibs

Des Bremner went on to lift the European Cup after leaving us! As did Ronnie Simpson

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Not sure if Cropley was still there then but he played in 2 of the 3 games in the 1977 league cup final saga v Everton, which they eventually won

In goal also was a much younger John Burridge

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

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Transfermarket has it as 31/05/21 so 2 years

Two years still to run for Horgan. No panic yet but would like to see him sign a new deal this season at some point. If he takes his end of season form into the new season there will be interest in him come January.

As long as he's left in his best position on the wing he'll have a good year I reckon. Was played out of position through the middle too often by Lennon.

Add Bobby Johnstone, Gordon Smith, Joe Baker, John McNamee, Colin Stein, Peter Marinello, Peter Cormack, John Brownlie, Thomson Allan, Craig Paterson, Andy Goram, Pat McGinley, Kevin Thomson
Even Pat Stanton

All achieved honours in the game after leaving us

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Originally Posted by mayo hibee

Two years still to run for Horgan. No panic yet but would like to see him sign a new deal this season at some point. If he takes his end of season form into the new season there will be interest in him come January.

As long as he's left in his best position on the wing he'll have a good year I reckon. Was played out of position through the middle too often by Lennon.

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Agree with that. I think he’s a fantastic player and one of few that has a genuine ability to win a match for you. Love players that are direct and want to beat a player and potentially having him and Boyle on the wings would give us a huge threat

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

Agree with that. I think he’s a fantastic player and one of few that has a genuine ability to win a match for you. Love players that are direct and want to beat a player and potentially having him and Boyle on the wings would give us a huge threat

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I'm greedy and would like one more, pacy winger in the mould of Barker. Hibs are great to watch these last few seasons due to introducing the likes of Boyle, Barker, Horgan, etc. Coupled with the fact that Boyle could be away with Australia from September it would be nice to have cover.

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Originally Posted by AB Hibby

I can't decide about slivka. He's no hard tackling midfielder but compared to Mallen he can at least tackle. We need proper balanced midfield but last season we were ***** in the middle.

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I'm not worried right now as we've still got time in the window but you've nailed the two things that are worrying me right now - midfield and balance.
I think that last window we signed good players but lacked an obvious formation and a balanced team.

For a sizeable chunk of games next season I think we should be looking to play two proper Centre midfielders who are there to boss the midfield and give us a platform to play from.
I don't think either of those players are at the club right now. Slivka with improved consistency maybe. Mallan I feel we're trying to make him something he's not.

At the moment Allan is the only nailed on starter in a nailed on position forward of the defence.
Boyle and Horgan on form merit a place but other formational considerations may change where (or possibly even if) they play.

Like I said - I'm not worried but I think right now we're definitely one and possibly two away from the players who are nailed on starters in midfield.

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

How long has Horgan got left on his deal I’d be looking to extend it if less than 2 years

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I don’t believe Horgan has done enough to warrant an extension at this stage.

I know he had a good record last year but there’s more to come IMO.

Tony Caig played for Newcastle after leaving us. Probably the most shocking development in football history.