Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

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Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee

A Celtc fan I know reposted the TV page from a paper in Singapore on the day of the above game and low and behold no mention of the game! Similar to Tony Blair saying he'd seen Jackie Milburn play for Newcastle when he was in fact telling porkies. Sounds like Bill Ng and the hun cheats will suit each other well.

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But we know that the Huns would never allow themselves to be taken over by a fantasist with no money.

And am I the only one to wonder at the mentality of the Celtc fan who actually looked that up?

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Originally Posted by Eyrie

But we know that the Huns would never allow themselves to be taken over by a fantasist with no money.

And am I the only one to wonder at the mentality of the Celtc fan who actually looked that up?

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I think you've answered your own question there.

:greengrin

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Douglas Fraser‏@BBCDouglsFraserBlue Knights' message to #Rangers administrators and Ng bid: show us the Singaporean dollars, and let's see you get a creditor deal

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Does anyone else on here find this absolutely hilarious? No? Just me then.

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Originally Posted by grunt

Does anyone else on here find this absolutely hilarious? No? Just me then.

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... it has to be said in a Dick Emery-type voice. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

TBH, I don't think it makes liquidation any more or any less likely.

Unless, of course, Mr. Ng has bottomless pockets.

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I didn't realise that Ticketus had jumped ship. You are right, it probably makes no difference to the prospect of liquidation.

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Originally Posted by marinello59

I didn't realise that Ticketus had jumped ship. You are right, it probably makes no difference to the prospect of liquidation.

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I just don't understand why the BK's would expect Ticketus to fund yet another takeover. Have they not just been potentially stung big time? How does the saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.................

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Originally Posted by CentreLine

I just don't understand why the BK's would expect Ticketus to fund yet another takeover. Have they not just been potentially stung big time? How does the saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.................

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But aren't Ticketus now in bed with Billy-boy Ng?

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Originally Posted by CentreLine

I just don't understand why the BK's would expect Ticketus to fund yet another takeover. Have they not just been potentially stung big time? How does the saying go? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.................

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No, no I think George W. Bush said it best...

Wait a minute, no I think your right first time :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

But aren't Ticketus now in bed with Billy-boy Ng?

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I like the prospect of Ticketus sucking the Huns dry over many years to get their cash back rather than the debt being washed away in a liquidation.

On a different note I see a squabble is starting over claims on the Ibrox Corpse.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...s-cash-jackpot

There still a few uncertainties though, What if Rangers are docked more points for their footballing crimes and finish in 3rd spot or lower, their would be no cash jackpot to squabble over.

Also , I think EUFA might want a say, as they won't approve of the Scottish clubs being squared-up and their European counterparts being hung out to dry.

This will run and run. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by greenginger

I like the prospect of Ticketus sucking the Huns dry over many years to get their cash back rather than the debt being washed away in a liquidation.

On a different note I see a squabble is starting over claims on the Ibrox Corpse.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...s-cash-jackpot

There still a few uncertainties though, What if Rangers are docked more points for their footballing crimes and finish in 3rd spot or lower, their would be no cash jackpot to squabble over.

Also , I think EUFA might want a say, as they won't approve of the Scottish clubs being squared-up and their European counterparts being hung out to dry.

This will run and run. :greengrin

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If the SPL were to try to divert Hearts' cash, any creditor would then have grounds for complaint, as this would be seen as an unfair preference. Hearts would be getting all of the money they are owed, as opposed to the xpence in the £ that they would get under a CVA or liquidation.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

If the SPL were to try to divert Hearts' cash, any creditor would then have grounds for complaint, as this would be seen as an unfair preference. Hearts would be getting all of the money they are owed, as opposed to the xpence in the £ that they would get under a CVA or liquidation.

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But is the money due to Rangers unconditionally and if not should D&F be counting it as monies due? They are not sure of 2nd place so how can they do that? Is there nobody out there regulating what this bunch are up to? Are they impostors or what? It looks very much like D&F have gambled on keeping players they can't afford in the hope that it will attract a better buyer and a better league position but with no guarantee of either. They then appear to be counting their chickens as it were in respect of the monies due in for that "success". Prompt liquidation on the other hand would deliver a guaranteed sum and a significant reduction in fees to D&F.

I wish they would just get on with it, the way it looks is that they are playing roulette with our (the tax payers) money

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Originally Posted by CentreLine

But is the money due to Rangers unconditionally and if not should D&F be counting it as monies due? They are not sure of 2nd place so how can they do that? Is there nobody out there regulating what this bunch are up to? Are they impostors or what? It looks very much like D&F have gambled on keeping players they can't afford in the hope that it will attract a better buyer and a better league position but with no guarantee of either. They then appear to be counting their chickens as it were in respect of the monies due in for that "success". Prompt liquidation on the other hand would deliver a guaranteed sum and a significant reduction in fees to D&F.

I wish they would just get on with it, the way it looks is that they are playing roulette with our (the tax payers) money

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I don't think RFC are counting on it (2nd place money) at all. However, the more they earn through the League, the more there is in the pot for creditors.

As I read the Express piece, it's the media that are suggesting Romanov will ask for RFC's prize-money.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I don't think RFC are counting on it (2nd place money) at all. However, the more they earn through the League, the more there is in the pot for creditors.

As I read the Express piece, it's the media that are suggesting Romanov will ask for RFC's prize-money.

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I know, sorry, ever the voice of reason CWG. I'm just venting my frustration as RFC seem to be geting away with cheating and it now looks to me like D&F are cheating on their behalf.

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Originally Posted by CentreLine

I know, sorry, ever the voice of reason CWG. I'm just venting my frustration as RFC seem to be geting away with cheating and it now looks to me like D&F are cheating on their behalf.

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Giggling here. My kids and various ex-partners would scoff at the idea of me being "the voice of reason" :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Giggling here. My kids and various ex-partners would scoff at the idea of me being "the voice of reason" :greengrin

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What I would like to know is how you managed to persuade Duff & Duffer to do sweet FA whilst you were away on holiday so that you wouldn't miss anything.

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Originally Posted by Seveno

What I would like to know is how you managed to persuade Duff & Duffer to do sweet FA whilst you were away on holiday so that you wouldn't miss anything.

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I AM DUFFMAN!!!

Here's a wee twist:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17739292

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I AM DUFFMAN!!!

Here's a wee twist:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17739292

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Do you think Paul Murray, realizing he might actually win the bidding process, has taken cold feet ? He probably thought he could go along for the publicity ride and maybe get invited to join with a consortium with serious money who would be queuing up to buy der Hun.

Seeing how none appeared it was time for the escape hatch.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Do you think Paul Murray, realizing he might actually win the bidding process, has taken cold feet ? He probably thought he could go along for the publicity ride and maybe get invited to join with a consortium with serious money who would be queuing up to buy der Hun.

Seeing how none appeared it was time for the escape hatch.

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I am intrigued by, even suspicious of, anybody who is in this bidding process. It's like the Hearts' scenario... why buy it now when it could be bought for sweeties later on?

Was hoping after 5,000 posts the *******s would be dead by now!:rolleyes::greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I am intrigued by, even suspicious of, anybody who is in this bidding process. It's like the Hearts' scenario... why buy it now when it could be bought for sweeties later on?

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Why buy either when you can get an EPL club for the same price? :greengrin

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

I am intrigued by, even suspicious of, anybody who is in this bidding process. It's like the Hearts' scenario... why buy it now when it could be bought for sweeties later on?

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Is there an exact date set aside for the decisions on the WTC and the BTC?

Wouldn't want to go on holiday and miss it - I don't the same influence over D&P as your good self....,


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Originally Posted by johnrebus

Is there an exact date set aside for the decisions on the WTC and the BTC?

Wouldn't want to go on holiday and miss it - I don't the same influence over D&P as your good self....,


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Don't fink so...

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Do you think Paul Murray, realizing he might actually win the bidding process, has taken cold feet ? He probably thought he could go along for the publicity ride and maybe get invited to join with a consortium with serious money who would be queuing up to buy der Hun.

Seeing how none appeared it was time for the escape hatch.

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Heard he only has £16.90, used the phrase "we will never leave the big house" and "we arra peepil" and thought that was enough to be the saviour of Rangers.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

If the SPL were to try to divert Hearts' cash, any creditor would then have grounds for complaint, as this would be seen as an unfair preference. Hearts would be getting all of the money they are owed, as opposed to the xpence in the £ that they would get under a CVA or liquidation.

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So why is this different from DAFC & Dun Utd? :wink:

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Originally Posted by LeithenHibby

So why is this different from DAFC & Dun Utd? :wink:

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In Dunfermline's case, I think the justification was that, had RFC not paid up, the SPL could have taken action against them such as fines, docking points and the like. In other words, not to pay up might have adversely affected their short-term trading future.

That, I think, was the justification.... but, at the time, I didn't agree with the payment, and I am still not sure I do.

As for United, I wasn't aware that they had been paid. Have they?

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

In Dunfermline's case, I think the justification was that, had RFC not paid up, the SPL could have taken action against them such as fines, docking points and the like. In other words, not to pay up might have adversely affected their short-term trading future.

That, I think, was the justification.... but, at the time, I didn't agree with the payment, and I am still not sure I do.

As for United, I wasn't aware that they had been paid. Have they?

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Rangers fans paid Dunfermline, SFA paid Dundee United.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

In Dunfermline's case, I think the justification was that, had RFC not paid up, the SPL could have taken action against them such as fines, docking points and the like. In other words, not to pay up might have adversely affected their short-term trading future.

That, I think, was the justification.... but, at the time, I didn't agree with the payment, and I am still not sure I do.

As for United, I wasn't aware that they had been paid. Have they?

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As far as I know they have.

Hearts may be in that position later :pray:, just like the DAFC case ... No?

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Originally Posted by Wat Dabney

Rangers fans paid Dunfermline, SFA paid Dundee United.

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Was the money not due to the Huns tho? And why would the SFA clear a club debt :confused:

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Originally Posted by LeithenHibby

Was the money not due to the Huns tho? And why would the SFA clear a club debt :confused:

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Its in the :rules: SFA can deduct monies owed to other clubs before paying out. So long as the other club makes the right case. Maybe hahahahearts will have a case and get theirs too, ironic though that may sound

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Originally Posted by LeithenHibby

Was the money not due to the Huns tho? And why would the SFA clear a club debt :confused:

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They deducted it from money due to Rangers from Scottish Cup commercial income. I am not sure if it was the full amount due or a contribution.