(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

It's worrying that someone you would think would have clout being in the running for president would be controlled by that group. Trump is a populist and I don't think cares about much but the second favourite seems in the pockets of fundamentalists.

Republicans are favourites for next year. Could we see abortion being illegal federally next year. It's scary. America really is knackered and I like large parts of it and many of its people

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The Evangelical movement is absolutely huge in a way it’s hard for other countries to properly understand. We’re talking 25% of the US population being broadly evangelical Protestant and 10% being proper ‘born again’ radical political evangelicals. These people are entitled by definition (they have a ‘manifest destiny’ to be there, remember those bible classes, chil’ren) and influence all sorts of nasty policy areas like abortion, Israel and the Middle East and race politics.

In lots of ways they are very different from the new Incel inspired, freedom first gun loving libertarians who want to give BLM activists a beating on demos in urban areas who are probably more naturally aligned with DeSantis, but they are all hitched to the same political wagon. Equally nasty (in my eyes at least) but motivated by different things.

GIRUY to this Trump erchie.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65350125

Tucker Carlson sacked by Fox.

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Originally Posted by grunt

Tucker Carlson sacked by Fox.

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Good although he'll get some poisonous online platform I'm sure

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Originally Posted by grunt

Tucker Carlson sacked by Fox.

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Possible that this could make him even more dangerous

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Originally Posted by grunt

Tucker Carlson sacked by Fox.

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Wonder if this was a demand as part of the Dominion settlement agreement. Timing is too much of a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

Good although he'll get some poisonous online platform I'm sure

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Probably reboot info wars with that Alex Jones prick.

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Originally Posted by Lendo

Wonder if this was a demand as part of the Dominion settlement agreement. Timing is too much of a coincidence.

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He just cost his boss 3/4 of a billion dollars. I doubt it’s a coincidence.


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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

Possible that this could make him even more dangerous

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I don't think so.

Being part of a mainstream media gave him a plausibility that he didn't really deserve. Whilst he'll probably be able to be more pernicious in a dark little corner of the internet and whip up morons in more dangerous ways, it's a bit different when he becomes "that guy that used to be on the telly" instead of "the guy on the telly".

Whilst I believe that the media should be as free as possible, I also believe that there should be consequences for those who recklessly and dangerously use misinformation to cause harm.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

I don't think so.

Being part of a mainstream media gave him a plausibility that he didn't really deserve. Whilst he'll probably be able to be more pernicious in a dark little corner of the internet and whip up morons in more dangerous ways, it's a bit different when he becomes "that guy that used to be on the telly" instead of "the guy on the telly".

Whilst I believe that the media should be as free as possible, I also believe that there should be consequences for those who recklessly and dangerously use misinformation to cause harm.

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I agree. He'll have big figures I'm sure, but fox is huge for a big proportion of brainwashed people in the US

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

Possible that this could make him even more dangerous

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I often wonder with people like him, how much of the ***** they are coming out with do they actually believe or are they just playing to their audience, they are on a good gig and great money so they just spout what they are told, not that it's worked for him on this one

He could likely double down and go down some subscription route and make a total killing from folk on the right now though

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Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4

I often wonder with people like him, how much of the ***** they are coming out with do they actually believe or are they just playing to their audience, they are on a good gig and great money so they just spout what they are told, not that it's worked for him on this one

He could likely double down and go down some subscription route and make a total killing from folk on the right now though

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The WhatsApp chats in the court case showed he knew the rigged election stuff he was saying each night was rubbish, he also basically said most fox viewers are idiots. Lots of covid grifters are the same I think, they know much of what they say is crap but money wins

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Originally Posted by grunt

Tucker Carlson sacked by Fox.

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He’s not the only TV presenter getting the boot.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65380349

https://twitter.com/GaryPetersonUSA/...BHJdg1Oag&s=19

Gaslighting attempts over Carlson's sacking.

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Sky News are actually showing the live flight tracker as his plane comes in to land in Aberdeen with a running commentary from their Scotland correspondent. Thankfully the BBC aren't!

Sky are actually treating this **** like royalty.

Sky reporter calling him Mr President. Astonishing.

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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation

Sky reporter calling him Mr President. Astonishing.

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Sadly, that is the protocol for addressing past presidents. No matter how much of a **** they are. Hopefully that will change when he gets the jail

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

Sadly, that is the protocol for addressing past presidents. No matter how much of a **** they are. Hopefully that will change when he gets the jail

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Ah ok never knew that! Thought I'd tuned into Fox when the presenter in the studio was referring to the current incumbent as "Biden" and still going on about "the President" when referring to Trump.

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Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

Sadly, that is the protocol for addressing past presidents. No matter how much of a **** they are. Hopefully that will change when he gets the jail

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At a stretch I can understand that being the protocol in the US but don't see why anybody else needs to pay attention to it. I know we won't disagree.

I only learned about the Mr President thing when I heard Dubya on telly address Mandela as Mr President. I laughed at Bush, thinking he couldn't remember Mandela's name, which you'd of course not have put past him, then somebody explained it to me and spoiled it.

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Originally Posted by Glory Lurker

I only learned about the Mr President thing when I heard Dubya on telly address Mandela as Mr President. I laughed at Bush, thinking he couldn't remember Mandela's name, which you'd of course not have put past him, then somebody explained it to me and spoiled it.

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Nearly as bad as President Biden congratulating the Irish rugby team for defeating the Black and Tans.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Nearly as bad as President Biden congratulating the Irish rugby team for defeating the Black and Tans.

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Just looked that up! Shows where his thoughts are!

Who's footing the bill for all of the red carpet and pipers treatment?

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Originally Posted by davy67 +

Who's footing the bill for all of the red carpet and pipers treatment?

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Neither HMG or SG, so presumably a combination of him and the USG.

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Originally Posted by davy67 +

Who's footing the bill for all of the red carpet and pipers treatment?

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It could come out of the £ 2 billion underspend.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

It could come out of the £ 2 billion underspend.

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A £2 billion underspend? Surely not? The Scottish Government are driving the Scottish economy into the ground and are directly responsible for Scotland's massive debt share.

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Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee

A £2 billion underspend? Surely not? The Scottish Government are driving the Scottish economy into the ground and are directly responsible for Scotland's massive debt share.

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https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....spend-29840197

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Nearly as bad as President Biden congratulating the Irish rugby team for defeating the Black and Tans.

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Did the All Blacks come out and fight them like a man?

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Originally Posted by greenginger

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....spend-29840197

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Would that be the same Daily Express that claims the SNP are also responsible for Scotland's annual deficit?

How can they simultaneously create a deficit while under-spending the budget? :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee

Would that be the same Daily Express that claims the SNP are also responsible for Scotland's annual deficit?

How can they simultaneously create a deficit while under-spending the budget? :hmmm:

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The deficit isn’t the same as debt.