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Surely a board (who aren't exactly flavour of the month with most hibs fans as it is) wouldn't want to risk losing even more supporters? So would it not make sense for them to release evidence, if they have it, that the info is incorrect?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
IMO if they just sit and hope it goes away they're hiding something.
I prefer the view that they're innocent until proven guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
In each of the main accusations against the Board/STF, there is enough evidence in the public domain to disprove them. IMO, it's up to the accusers to tell us why publicly-available information is incorrect.
You're entitled to that view. All I'm saying is some fans may not see it that way. Can the board afford that?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Unproven accusations play right into the Board's hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Why don't they offer up the evidence then? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Release evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
It's available in the public domain. Hands on Hibs are stupid, malicious liars.
I don't see why it's unreasonable to ask the same question of the board as well though. That's all I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
What question?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
I heard that Rod Petrie has been putting tablets in Alex Harris' meals to stop him growing because he refuses to pay for new training kit.
I heard that Rod Petrie has ordered Kennedy not to play any more in case there is a police camera in the crowd, and he's refusing to pay for any speeding fines.
I heard that Rod Petrie and STF are siphoning the cooking oil from the catering equipment at ER and selling it on the black market as bio-fuel to line their own pockets.
Can I have admin rights to Hibileaks yet?
To provide evidence that what they're being accused of isn't true?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
We're gonna go round in circles here. Forgive me for not trusting Petrie fully.
As has been said, they don't need to. The evidence is out there, in the public domain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
FYI, that evidence has either been independently audited or,in the case of the directors stuff, is held by Companies House.
This might be the case. But you're in a fortunate position that you know where to look. I'm willing to bet 80%-90% of hibs fans wouldn't have the foggiest where to find this kind of info. I certainly didn't until today.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I disagree. The information's there for anyone that's interested enough to look. These clowns are coming out with a load of scurrilous crap supported by, so far, ZERO evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Either they don't have a clue or they're deliberately lying in an effort to rock the boat.
They should either put up or shut up, because all they're doing at present is making themselves and they're followers look daft.
There's a winding up petition against Hibs in the Court of Session next Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Now, I've just made that up. But 80-90% of Hibs fans probably don't know where to look to disprove that, even though it's in the public domain. If I start posting it on Twitter and Facebook would you expect Hibs to waste time issuing a statement to prove me wrong?
I've got the advantage (burden? :greengrin ) of knowing slightly more about Hibs' affairs than is in the public domain so I always leave it to the likes of Cropley to produce facts in case I accidentally wander over any lines, but there's quite simply no room for Hands on Hibs and their lies in any kind of mature, adult discussion about the future of Hibs.
What the hell is the info?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Does this mean you are on the wind up? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
Personally, and from the evidence on here, the false (sorry, so far unsubstantiated claims that are never going to become substantiated) claims seem to be drawing some sympathy from the support for Rod and STFQuote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
If the campaign group has evidence then they would release it to put maximum pressure on Rodders (and actually kick off some press interest) IMHO. The fact that they are claiming institutions like Companies House are wrong about stuff and dismissing anyone questioning their assertions as 'agents' implies that there isn't a great deal behind the claims.
Despite moaning about Rodders' management style for years, I'm a member of a "board-sanctioned forum" so what would I know?
Is that what they're saying? That's quite funny :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Beefster
Here's another thing they must have missed........
http://www.hibs.net/content.php?392-...nt-of-29th-May
And that isn't made up!
To be fair, I might have misinterpreted it. Now that I think about it, they may be talking about the supporter meetings with Dempster or the Bounce.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Sorry, I'm not up to speed on the latest Hands on Hibs fantasies.
I know about STF raking it in from rents for the ticket office, and Petrie charging large sums for pitch maintenance at East Mains.
Is there something knew ?
Hibs have been committing criminal acts for years by not advising Companies House of their directors.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Jail the Maidencraig 2.
L7 - simple question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
Most of us are at a loss as to what STF or RP have done, that has either hurt Hibs, or had some personal gain at the detrement of Hibs ?
What we need is HOH (or whoever) to provide some facts or evidence (simple bullet points would do), otherwise this thread is a complete waste of time, and if anything re-inforces that we are safe under STF.
I just don't think they'd be sticking their neck on the line making these things up if there wasn't any substance to it. Especially when you consider the potential ramifications of doing so. Has anyone considered that (similar to the likes of TC123 with his inside info) they can't release evidence without exposing the source?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarlingtonHibee
All I'm saying is what harm is there in asking the board?
I give up - I'm out:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
:cb
I keep wondering how Farmer aquired this £170 million at the age of 70+ and it keeps pointing to the same thing...
He's been ripping of the Hibs since the early 90's. Bill Gates and Ambrovich have it all wrong; to make money, one must come along and fleece a Scottish fitba team for a few hundred/thousand quid over 20+ years, in the public eye and with a section of your fans out to prove your every move is "dodgy".
Without being blunt, he's 73 years old and has £170m.
Lets turn this around; why waste whatever time he has left, screwing Hibs out anything? If I were him, I'd be inevsting that money in beer, holidays and **** loads of.....well, I'd spend it anyway :greengrin
Am off to find some of this grade a radgepowder that's circulating Embra the noo :greengrin
Stone radge. Utter, stone radge. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
They can afford anything they want to (just NOT when the transfer-window is open !) - the entire argument is over a board who don't give once solitary-ounce of 'Donald Duck' for this club, it's future or the fans.
BALANCING THE BOOKS - THE ONE AND ONLY OBJECTIVE !
If I want to ask the missus if she's been spending money on shoes, I need to either provide the shoes, a receipt or the bank statement as evidence. Why would I ask the question otherwise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunatic#7
A favoured tactic of conspiracy theorists is "just asking questions" when they have heehaw evidence in order to raise doubts and muddy the waters. Until HoH produce some evidence, they're doing the same thing.
Have to say that never mind all the 'accusations', I didn't like their tactic of sending children to STF's house to deliver a letter....