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03-07-2019, 09:36 AM
Callum_62

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Originally Posted by Niffy

This maybe ?

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/s...united-3042561

Yeah that's it

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03-07-2019, 09:41 AM
04Sauzee

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Originally Posted by The Leith Dutch

I think that's probably about right mate.

Transfer fee wise I don't think it changes much at all (and this is kind of why I wasn't obsessed with what we got for McGinn which I know sounds weird).
I reckon the club is in a good position to be able to pay the required transfer fee for any player who's wages we can afford.
This might make it a bit easier, save us haggling over a few quid and probably more importantly maybe allow a little more strength in depth.

The real game changer requires a different type of financial step forward and that's on the wages front.

That's going to require changing our wage structure - say 3-5k pw more for 6 or 7 top earners and the corresponding bump up for the rest of the squad to have a happy dressing room and better players. Maths is back of a cigarette packet for illustrative purposes rather than carefully thought through numbers but it's something like that to ensure (a) we're the premium non OF destination in Scotland and (b) gets us competing with the average League One in England wages.

We're probably in the ballpark of £2 - £2.5 million per year to fund that but the rub is we need to be sustaining that - or at least the bulk of it - through increased revenue.
Not sure how deep RG's pockets are but I'm guessing he's neither rich enough nor dumb enough to be prepared to chuck in that kind of change every year.

That to me feels like what the stated view of Best of the Rest and regular Europe needs to become a reality.

Much as I've generally been a nay sayer about filling in the corners it might be that's what's needed for this.
I think you get c. £400k for every extra 1000 seats you sell across the home games in the league.

How much do you think it will cost to get the 4 corners filled in and how many extra seats will we get? Remember there would still have to be access for emergency services etc?

As much as I'd love the corners filled in I think this would cost a fortune and I can see money being spent at HTC before the corners getting filled in.

New indoor pitch etc
03-07-2019, 09:45 AM
GloryGlory

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

How much do you think it will cost to get the 4 corners filled in and how many extra seats will we get? Remember there would still have to be access for emergency services etc?

As much as I'd love the corners filled in I think this would cost a fortune and I can see money being spent at HTC before the corners getting filled in.

New indoor pitch etc

:agree: I believe that the club needs a full size indoor pitch to keep its elite academy status with the SFA (I think that's what its called). Filling in the corners would be expensive, especially since the cost to additional seat created ratio is likely to be quite high.
03-07-2019, 09:45 AM
MrRobot

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Originally Posted by MacGruber

What I took from the press conference video is that the money, at least part of the money going to the team has already been spent. I don't think it is a case we have extra money from 11 am yesterday. Who we will spend the money on - I think part of the answer is Christian Doidge.
When people say we can now get Ojo or McNulty, I don't think our position changes with them. We would have had that finance in place when the Ojo deal fell through and throughout McNulty transfer.
There's probably a playing budget left for a max 3 players.
Hopefully turns out to be Omeonga, McNulty and a 6 foot 7 tall and wide beast of a defensive midfielder.
Ideally could add in another striker, winger and left back but that would be greedy.

I dont think Hibs willl have used money from the incoming sale for players so far, that will have been taken care of by the already agreed budget. We did have a fair bit to bank over the last season.

Hopefully the new owner allows us to push the boat a little bit and get McNulty, Omeonga and a defensive midfielder.
03-07-2019, 09:46 AM
bingo70

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

How much do you think it will cost to get the 4 corners filled in and how many extra seats will we get? Remember there would still have to be access for emergency services etc?

As much as I'd love the corners filled in I think this would cost a fortune and I can see money being spent at HTC before the corners getting filled in.

New indoor pitch etc

I think there must be some sort of scope for developing the area between the east and the famous five stand. Doesn’t have to be masses of extra seats but even something similar to Ibrox with hotel/ offices/ student flats/supporters bar with additional hospitality would look great.

Was it Watford that had a bit of a random structure sort of plonked in the corner that was used for extra hospitality? Something similar but a bit more modern would be decent I think, such a waste of a space just now.
03-07-2019, 09:48 AM
Billy Whizz

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Originally Posted by GloryGlory

:agree: I believe that the club needs a full size indoor pitch to keep its elite academy status with the SFA (I think that's what its called). Filling in the corners would be expensive, especially since the cost to additional seat created ratio is likely to be quite high.

I keep hearing this GloryGlory, apart from Hearts who rent from Oriam, who else has it, is planning for it?

Is it not more to do, it would be an asset in winter, players can train inside?
03-07-2019, 09:49 AM
Steven79

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Originally Posted by bingo70

I think there must be some sort of scope for developing the area between the east and the famous five stand. Doesn’t have to be masses of extra seats but even something similar to Ibrox with hotel/ offices/ student flats/supporters bar with additional hospitality would look great.

Was it Watford that had a bit of a random structure sort of plonked in the corner that was used for extra hospitality? Something similar but a bit more modern would be decent I think, such a waste of a space just now.

It would look great if it linked the two stands together (Which would be easier if they were both either one tier or two)

I'm not sure how we would fill in the other big corner as that was link the away end with the home end unless we switched the small away supports to the south east rather than the south west end.
03-07-2019, 09:50 AM
MyJo

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Originally Posted by we are hibs

I absolutely love Omeonga and think we should make every effort to get him back. I reckon alongside Allan they could forge a great partnership. There were times last season Omeonga was doing the work of others in the midfield and it was taking away from his game. Not to mention being put out wide on a few occasions. Play him in the middle and watch him go

Agreed, so many times he was the one pushing up and hassling defenders and goalkeepers while they were in possession you would have been forgiven for thinking he was our striker.

With Allan in the team to play the attacking midfield role allowing Omeonga to sit a bit deeper in midfield I reckon he would boss most midfield battles. He’s not a big guy but he is tenacious and doesn’t shy away from tackles and is comfortable with the ball at his feet driving us forward.

I could see him developing into a McGinn style box to box midfielder.
03-07-2019, 09:50 AM
GloryGlory

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Originally Posted by bingo70

I think there must be some sort of scope for developing the area between the east and the famous five stand. Doesn’t have to be masses of extra seats but even something similar to Ibrox with hotel/ offices/ student flats/supporters bar with additional hospitality would look great.

Was it Watford that had a bit of a random structure sort of plonked in the corner that was used for extra hospitality? Something similar but a bit more modern would be decent I think, such a waste of a space just now.

Think the residents in the flats behind might object if we ever sought planning permission. Fair dos, they bought their flats in the full knowledge there is a football stadium parked right next door, but they probably weren't anticipating hotels, offices or student residences. :greengrin
03-07-2019, 10:00 AM
MyJo

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Originally Posted by Steven79

It would look great if it linked the two stands together (Which would be easier if they were both either one tier or two)

I'm not sure how we would fill in the other big corner as that was link the away end with the home end unless we switched the small away supports to the south east rather than the south west end.

Full height single tier between the FF and east (basically extend the east stand around the corner to meet the FF) very basic build to minimise cost and install safe standing.

Lower tier only between FF and west with large scoreboard/display above this.

West/south corner remains open for vehicle access.

No additional seating between east and south but put a building in there with new tv studio space etc
03-07-2019, 10:05 AM
we are hibs

I imagine RG will have been at football games in America and seen the match day experience and stadium facilities they have. Wonder what his thoughts would be on the match day experience here? We also have the smallest ticket office known to man. Maybe if we ever filled in the corner between the east and famous 5 they could build a club shop there and move the ticket office into where the club shop is currently.
03-07-2019, 10:26 AM
Hibs4185

I’ve always had the idea of selling the hibs club and using the funds to build a new hibs club between the east and FF.

You could have facilities over looking the pitch, would be great for weddings and other events. Imagine it would increase membership massively and match day it would be an amazing.

Obviously the membership or whoever owns the hibs club would have to agree to it, but it would be a cost effective way of filling in one of the corners whilst having an amazing venue for fans.
03-07-2019, 10:39 AM
Larry Burns

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Originally Posted by Larry Burns

McGeough to Aberdeen deal has collapsed, apparently

Now I’m hearing it’s back on!

Who knows what’s happening there but Dons want it wrapped up by tomorrow
03-07-2019, 10:46 AM
GloryGlory

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

I keep hearing this GloryGlory, apart from Hearts who rent from Oriam, who else has it, is planning for it?

Is it not more to do, it would be an asset in winter, players can train inside?

Both, probably.
03-07-2019, 10:48 AM
Heisenberg

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Originally Posted by Larry Burns

Now I’m hearing it’s back on!

Who knows what’s happening there but Dons want it wrapped up by tomorrow

Looks like Aberdeen are going big to try and get him before Friday as that’s their deadline for the Europa League.
03-07-2019, 10:51 AM
3pm

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Looks like Aberdeen are going big to try and get him before Friday as that’s their deadline for the Europa League.

And the Bank of Hibernian could pinch him! 😂😂😂
03-07-2019, 11:01 AM
The Leith Dutch

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Originally Posted by 04Sauzee

How much do you think it will cost to get the 4 corners filled in and how many extra seats will we get? Remember there would still have to be access for emergency services etc?

As much as I'd love the corners filled in I think this would cost a fortune and I can see money being spent at HTC before the corners getting filled in.

New indoor pitch etc

Like I say - I'm not a massive advocate of the corners being filled in but the point I'm trying (badly obviously :) ) to make is that to make the next step up requires a sizeable increase in revenue for the club. Last two years we've been around 18,000 average attendance out of 20,000. A good chunk of the missing is the South Stand presumably so the next goal would have to be getting to the point that's open for the non category A games maybe?

Filling the corners in will cost plenty - particularly if there's any required remodeling for emergency services.
The point would be that from the new owner's perspective it's a better use of money to finance increased capacity to the stands and to get the accompanying expectation of increased revenue every year than it is to drop his money direct into increasing the wages as that's not sustainable.

I don't know enough about revenue brought in by improvements to the HTC or adding an indoor pitch to know if that's a good use of finance to increase revenue to the club.

Ultimately my argument is that if he's serious about pushing for best of the rest and regular European football then the wage budget needs to increase and I believe that, to keep that fiscally responsible, that requires an increase in revenue probably in the ballpark of 2 - 3 million. More tickets sold per home game is one of the quickest ways to make a dent in that.
03-07-2019, 11:25 AM
JimBHibees

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

I keep hearing this GloryGlory, apart from Hearts who rent from Oriam, who else has it, is planning for it?

Is it not more to do, it would be an asset in winter, players can train inside?

Is it not part of the Project brave elite level criteria?
03-07-2019, 02:36 PM
Inconsequential

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.
03-07-2019, 02:42 PM
bill_reed

police requirment.

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Originally Posted by hibbiemacfie

I continually read that some posters suggest that the corners at Easter Rd should be filled in. While great in theory if you look at the stadium site this would be problematic due to boundary restrictions as both the South and Famous Five are designed with corners that taper off to so the stands remain within the boundary. Land adjacent to the stadium which also serves as the public highway does not belong to Hibs. Possibly two corners could be filled in but I'm no expert.

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...
03-07-2019, 02:47 PM
Lago

Any Hibs transfer rumours ?
03-07-2019, 02:55 PM
Steven79

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Originally Posted by bill_reed

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...

Aberdeen don't have that do they?
03-07-2019, 02:58 PM
04Sauzee

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Originally Posted by Steven79

Aberdeen don't have that do they?

Not 100% sure, maybe it's not a requirement just see most new stadiums that are fully enclosed have space underneath one of the corners to allow access?
03-07-2019, 03:01 PM
hibee316

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Originally Posted by bill_reed

there has to be at least one end of the ground open for emergency access, such as ambulances and fire engines...

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.
03-07-2019, 03:01 PM
Ardenttwo

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Originally Posted by Lago

Any Hibs transfer rumours ?

Exactly. I thought this was a transfer discussion/rumours. All it is now about corners being filled in Full sized indoor pitches etc etc.
03-07-2019, 03:19 PM
bill_reed

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Originally Posted by Steven79

Aberdeen don't have that do they?

Yes...Aberdeen...the north west side of the stand had access for emergency vehicle....
03-07-2019, 03:22 PM
bill_reed

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Originally Posted by hibee316

Doesn't mean you can't have the corners filled though. Hampden being an example.

Hampden has two tunnel one just to the left of the main entrance... and one to the right...
03-07-2019, 03:43 PM
Inconsequential

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Originally Posted by Lago

Any Hibs transfer rumours ?

Yes rumour has it that the ownership of Hibs has been transferred to a Peru born American businessman named Ronald Gordon. Transfer of the summer and the most important apparently.. :na na: :wink: :greengrin
03-07-2019, 04:08 PM
Tarrahib

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Originally Posted by hibbiemacfie

Yes rumour has it that the ownership of Hibs has been transferred to a Peru born American businessman named Ronald Gordon. Transfer of the summer and the most important apparently.. :na na: :wink: :greengrin

Aye he's not even right in the door and you are talking about spending his money on filling in the corners of the ground and other unnecessary extras that not needed yet.Let's fill Easter Road for every home game over a period of time before we talk about upgrading it.
Let's get a great winning team on the park.
03-07-2019, 04:20 PM
Inconsequential

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Originally Posted by Tarrahib

Aye he's not even right in the door and you are talking about spending his money on filling in the corners of the ground and other unnecessary extras that not needed yet.Let's fill Easter Road for every home game over a period of time before we talk about upgrading it.
Let's get a great winning team on the park.

I was only talking about filling in the corners as I continually read posters that suggested it in the first place. It would be more trouble than it's worth imo. You're absolutely right of course let's make progress as a club first. :agree:

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