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The number of Covid patients in hospital in Tayside has almost doubled overnight as case numbers continue to rise in the area.
NHS Tayside said there were 36 patients currently being treated for Coronavirus with many of them under 40.
Some are in intensive care and high dependency units.
Two additional wards have been opened at Dundee's Ninewells hospital, taking the number of Covid beds to 60.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ntral-57679092
True!... ugh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
On the surfaces thing, I read (somewhere I can't now find :( ) that while the original Alpha varient didn't hang around living on surfaces as much as we had worried about, one of the attributes the latest Delta varient has is it survives a wee bit longer on (hard) surfaces so hand cleaning etc is right back in the game to help reduce spread.
"Figures for last week showed that just 29% of people who tested positive had spoken to a contact tracer within 24 hours of being logged in the Test and Protect system - by far the lowest on record."Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Worrying.
Rochdale Borough Council
@RochdaleCouncil
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No appointment needed
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First doses
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Interesting tweet Rochdale starting over 16s
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/30/gps-giving-second-covid-jabs-just-three-weeks-apart-despite-nhs-guidance?__twitter_impression=trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Oh this article too. Hundreds of doctors in England doing over 16s and also second doses as quick as 3 weeks. Wonder if they are jumping the gun to the inevitable
Sorry I missed this at the time it was posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge
I am optimistic but cautiously so.
Whilst we are clearly seeing the positive effects of the vaccination programme on hospital numbers and deaths, they are both on the rise.
9th August is 5 weeks and 4 days away, if you work backwards 23rd May was 5 weeks and 4 days ago and since then we have had an increase in hospital numbers of nearly 178%. A similar rise in percentage terms between now and 9th August would take us to 764 patients in hospital and I can't see how they would continue with the plans to open up with numbers like that.
The fact we are now looking more at hospital data gives me hope but I'm not quite convinced yet.
Whilst I'm hopeful of things becoming more normal over the next month or so, I don't think we're done with this yet and I do think the winter could see some measures reimposed.
I believe we will do 16s and 17s when we hit the deadline the govt set for over 18s. I think they will concentrate on hitting that target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I was one of the most vocal about 2021 being a write off in terms of large events and I'm still in that camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
I tend to focus on running events because that's my participation sport. Whilst some smaller events are still going ahead (usually trail events in rural setting with low participation numbers) an increasing number of big ones are cancelling, the most high profile in recent days being the Cardiff half marathon scheduled October. That's the 3rd biggest mass participation race of it's kind in the UK.
It's not so much that I think we will still be living under restrictions in the coming months. Rather we are more than half way through the calendar year and organisers of events still have no real assurances of where we will be in the coming months. That's not really a criticism of any decision makers as such but how can anyone financially commit to putting on a running event, a music festival or a theatre production if they don't have a clue what capacity or level of participation they will have. We are weeks away from the start of the football season and, despite Leitch going off piste again in an interview, clubs really don't know what the rules will be around spectators come August, September or October never mind when we get into the depths of winter.
For me life is fairly tolerable at the moment. People can meet, gyms are open, pubs and restaurants are open, you can travel to walk, camp or whatever and that desolate feeling of dark winter nights stuck inside has faded to memory. Equally though I still don't see the kind of normality where you can buy tickets, book a flight or commit to a wedding returning anytime soon. If covid has taught us anything then it's that there is always another twist in the tale. With that in mind I'm still of the opinion that 2021 is something of a write off in terms of mass spectator events and the like.
I think the thing about going to see a GMP about a medical problem is that irrespective of what opinions they hold, it makes somebody accountable for the advice they give in a professional environment. There is scope in medicine for difference of opinion and different approaches but ultimately the evidence base (both strong and weak evidence) must be considered. Medical professionals are tightly regulated and so there is little room for the wacky and bonkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Some of the advice I've seen given on here has been, imo, excellent but ultimately it has to be taken with a pinch of salt whoever provides it - we are ultimately all anonymous message board users at the end of the day so discretion must always be used when taking advice.
"Speak to your GP if concerned" is advice that can almost never be wrong imo though.
My fear is all restrictions being lifted on the 19th of July in England while the 9th of August date up here will be delayed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Yes for every medical problem you have, not for whether you get your children vaccinated. I suppose we haveto trust the jcvi as they will ultimately decide. It's an unknown but you or your kids have to choose on the risk balance. Peevemore said his gp or French equivalent was anti vax and cought covid, I wouldn't ask himQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
It's all smoke and mirrors though, we don't have the supply just now so they say we are taking our time to study. Over 30% of teens now vaccinated in us, isreal vaccinating over 10s soon, China over 3. I guess we can watch their data until we get supplies or more probably, herd immunity seeing the figures just now
I don't see it. We have already seen the first seeds of a backtrack sewn by Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I'd be surprised if there is a situation in which all restrictions are lifted in any country of the UK by mid August and beyond. They may not be the most intrusive restrictions but if I was forced to guess I'd suggest masks remaining, limited social distancing remaining and ongoing curbs on the size of gatherings and events are the most likely.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2021-06-30/
France expecting 4th wave September October. I've read similar expected for western Europe as Delta kicks in. Most of Europe expecting to be 90% at least delta by the end of August. Hopefully vaccine uptake is good
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true
BREAKING: Ministers are planning to remove ALL mandatory mask and social distancing restrictions in England on 19 July - and Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance back it
The Premier League is expected to be told it can fill stadiums to full capacity when the season starts in August
Yep Johnson's now coming out and saying some "extra precautions" may still be needed beyond 19th July, that doesn't strike me as being the return to complete normality that it was painted as just a few weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Sturgeon hasn't come out with similar hints yet as far as I'm aware yet but if that's what happens in England there's no way that we'll go further and lift everything on 9th August.
Visitors to Europe won't get in if they have the wrong AZ vaccination........
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...e-astrazeneca/
Does anyone know how you can find out the batch number you've been given in Scotland? The NHS app gives that info in England.
It's actually terrible from the eu and hopefully rectified soon. It means the poorest countries in the world who have received all vaccines from covax have apartheid fromQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Europe. Its not some hut making these jags its the serum institute in India, the big biggest medicine maker in the world
Is it not recorded on the system that shows your current vaccine status beside the date the injections were administered. Mine was written for my first dose on my letter from my GP with my date for my 2nd dose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
It's not on the vaccine status website just checked, hopefully our app is out soonQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Phew, just checked mine. First dose is Vaxzevria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Got my second jag on Monday.
J
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mpression=true
Third paper tonight saying all rules going the 19th. Nightclubs open, distancing, rule of 6 ending, face masks to become optional. Covid passports could be used in winter to stop lockdown
I'm almost certain it was there when they first set the system up. I've just checked and the format has been redesigned, the batch number's not showing on my record either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
The pandemic is definitely on its last legs in the U.K. and I cannot wait until 19th July/9th august
GPs in Scotland are concerned about delivering Covid booster jabs as they are working "beyond full capacity".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57666436
Fyi, there's at least 2 medical practitioners, or ex-practitioners, who regularly post in here. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I absolutely want this to be true but I’m not really sure it can be said with any certainty. If the percentage increases in hospital over the past 6 weeks or so repeat themselves again, we’ll have a huge amount of people in hospital, especially for the summer time. The case rate means that schools and hospitals will be significantly disrupted with people isolating. There still seems to be a recognition that restrictions may return in the winter. I hope the removal of rules goes ahead but I think we’re far from over this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDoidge
By the time we get to winter pretty much the entire adult population will have been double vaccinated, there will also be a massive uptake in flu jabs in the older population as these will be given at the same time as the booster jab.
I would be very surprised if restrictions are put back in place in the winter. There will be no furlough this time either which makes it even less likely.
Apparently the batch was on the cards you were given at the time, unfortunately they did not do that in Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Boils down to the serum institute in India not having a licence to manufacture the vaccine.
They had a full licence to manufacture the vaccine it was set up and checked with the teams from Oxford and AstraZeneca. It's the biggest and best vaccine and medicine manufacturer in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Eu said it was because they hadn't checked it themselves. Although in the last 24 hours most of Europe including France Italy Germany Spain have agreed to accept anyone vaccinated with it. A lot was to do with acceptance of traveller's. Eu wanted India to accept green pass, India looks like agreeing if it is reciprocal
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/7/1/europe-nations-approve-india-covishield-vaccine
The vaccine batch number isn't there but there is a line that says "Vaccine medicinal product". Mine says "Vaxzevria".Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Edit - ah, apprently the covishield ones say that too, so effectively meaningless.